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Posted by Dr. Bob on November 18, 2003, at 23:57:13
In reply to mdma brain damage are you suffering too?, posted by jamesn on November 18, 2003, at 10:12:36
> hi everyone
> I have been suffering with mdma caused brain damge for three years, after heavy use of mdma for the three previous years.
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> I would like to contact people in the same situation.
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> This firstly started as mild social anxiety, and mild depression. I was prescribed prozac for six months and this helped me overcome my problems.
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> I was hooked on the mdma buzz so I returned to it not as heavily as before but mixed with more other drugs.
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> Then the suprise of my life happened, after one night of mdma taking I awoke the next morning to find that I felt different in myself.
> I felt generally uneasy, I felt a sense of dread and forboding, this was amplified when I walked down the road I felt paranoid and suffered panic attacks in social situations.
> This overnight change I believe was a symptom of the partial destruction of my serotonin carrying neural pathways in my brain.
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> Over the next four months I went through a period of recovery when daily I felt strange sensations inside my head several times a day, at first I didn't know what these sensations were about, but as the days went one I intuitively felt that I was slowly recovering from the brain damge.
> After about four months from that day I felt that my brain had recovered back to normal. This process was not easy and I could not face normal life such as working, and limited alcohol fueled social engagements.
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> One thing that I noticed with this brain damage was that drugs that had previously been helpful, such as prozac now had the oposite effect, it made me manically depressed, I had never suffered from mania before. So I could not take prozac, I believe this is because it was a drug focused on the neurotransmitter serotonin which I believe was the damaged area.
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> I was still hooked on the mdma buzz, so unfortunately I took another two pills over a couple of months.
> This was enough to repeat my problems only more severely, I'm now two years and one month on from my last ever pill and I still am not back to normal.
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> I am however expecting to recover to normal within a few months, I have found a drug that I believe has helped my brain to recover.
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> You can email me if you want to discuss any drug related issue, I am particuarly interested in mdma related brain damage, and if anyone else out there has suffered from similar problems to what I have described
>
> email me at survivinge@yahoo.co.uk
Posted by Mats on November 19, 2003, at 1:41:09
In reply to mdma brain damage are you suffering too? « jamesn, posted by Dr. Bob on November 18, 2003, at 23:57:13
just wondering about your quantity of mdma useage...
How many pills in average did you take in one session? and for how many days in one month?
PostMDMA depression is very common in heavy users or prolonged useage, and is mainly the result of serotonin depletion.
Posted by tai daluna on November 19, 2003, at 2:07:35
In reply to Re: mdma brain damage are you suffering too?, posted by Mats on November 19, 2003, at 1:41:09
i suffered from lots of brain damage from drugs, including: not being able to walk or talk after weeklong binges; forgetting how to make toast or find the fridge; panic attacks; intense paranoia; lingering visual hallucinations; and inability to enjoy ANYTHING. granted i did lots of drugs, and did them carelessly: i wasn't planning to live past 20 at the time, so i didn't care much.
i am feeling better and better as time passes away from street drugs. it's been over a year now since i touched e, crystal, coke. mushrooms, acid, pcp, etc. i still smoke weed now and then, but nothing else: no e or coke or crystal. it took awhile, about 6 months, for the anxiety and malaise to fade some. the best thing you can do now is eat healthy, exercise lots and lots (it helps the brain regenerate), and avoid drugs and alcohol as much as possible. good luck. peace.
tai
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 20, 2003, at 17:57:05
In reply to mdma brain damage are you suffering too? « jamesn, posted by Dr. Bob on November 18, 2003, at 23:57:13
Re: mdma brain damage are you suffering too?
Posted by cookie0876 on November 19, 2003, at 18:34:52
In reply to mdma brain damage are you suffering too?, posted by jamesn on November 18, 2003, at 10:12:36
You mentioned strange sensations in your head but didn't describe them. Do they feel like mild jolts of electricity or vibrations at all? I had a similar experience after smoking ice. I smoked it about six months until this one dreadful night when I had a major panic attack accompanied by vibrations all over my body. I never had mania or anxiety before this. Doctors speculate this brought out an underlying illness. I think it's crap. I think I have brain damage. I think I did this to myself. I take wellbutrin. It doesn't really help with the vibrations or weird sensations, but it helps me from totally freaking out or crying all night about it. Benzos are the only things that work for me. What is this miracle drug that you speak of? I don't know if this type of brain damage will repair itself over time. Once you have it, you're stuck with it... RIGHT? cookie_0876@hotmail.com
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Re: mdma brain damage are you suffering too? » cookie0876
Posted by pixygoth on November 20, 2003, at 14:49:40
In reply to Re: mdma brain damage are you suffering too?, posted by cookie0876 on November 19, 2003, at 18:34:52
I just want to say that they *used* to think brain damage was irreversible - but stuff like this (your head feelings sound oddly like Effexor withdrawal by the way) I'm sure can fix itself. It's a matter of the brain reconstructing the mechanisms that were damaged, not necessarily in the same "place", but with new neural cells...
get me?
There are I'm sure more qualified people than I here to talk about this.
S
Posted by cookie0876 on November 22, 2003, at 11:41:27
In reply to mdma brain damage are you suffering too? « jamesn, posted by Dr. Bob on November 18, 2003, at 23:57:13
I didn't do mdma. I smoked ice for six months on the weekends thinking it was no big deal. Boy was I wrong. One night I had a massive anxiety attack accompanied by eurythmic vibrations all throughout my body. I started having these vibrations all the time - including in my sleep where I'd be almost paralyzed for a minute and then wake up and shake it off. The doctors kept telling me I was suffering from panic attacks. The thing is that they don't come out of the blue. It is a constant state of irritability, numbness in my arms and legs, tightness in my face, jitteriness, don't sleep well at night, and feeling these weird vibrations that seem to start in my head or chest and move throughout my body. I cannot concentrate. This is daily, and the only thing that helps is Ativan which the doctors had me on for six months and then took me off of it because of my previous drug use. My doctor suggested that I might be bipolar and prescribed celexa and zyprexa. I woke up from the Zyprexa with extreme anxiety, couldn't see straight, and had a panic attack so I never took it again after the first try. Then I tried Depakote and Gabitril. I am currently taking Wellbutrin (six weeks now) and Seroquel (two weeks at 25 mg). There has been absolutely no change and I can't really tell if I am any worse. I am finding myself wanting to run to the ER in hopes they'll prescribe Ativan. Has anything helped you? I believe I have depleted dopamine or possible partail seizures due to the meth use or maybe some other type of nerve damage. I did not experience any of these symptoms before I used meth and lived a completely normal life. I know it is possible that meth could have brought out an underlying illness, but I find that difficult to believe. Does anyone out there experience these symptoms? I am very desperate for help.
Posted by cookie0876 on November 22, 2003, at 11:47:09
In reply to Redirected: mdma brain damage, posted by Dr. Bob on November 20, 2003, at 17:57:05
Oh wow. I didn't know Dr. Bob redirected this message and I just typed another one saying the same thing. Thanks for your reply. I wonder if I am screwing myself up worse by taking Wellbutrin or Seroquel? I wonder if I would be better off just toughing it out and letting my brain just get better on its own. It sounds terrible, but I really would like to go back to my pre-drug life where I could drink a few beers, smoke a few cigarettes, drink Dr. Pepper and coffee as much as I wanted and be completely normal. Now I can't do anything without feeling like I took a bunch of diet pills.
Posted by jamesn on November 25, 2003, at 8:01:45
In reply to Re: mdma brain damage are you suffering too?, posted by Mats on November 19, 2003, at 1:41:09
> just wondering about your quantity of mdma useage...
>
> How many pills in average did you take in one session? and for how many days in one month?
>
> PostMDMA depression is very common in heavy users or prolonged useage, and is mainly the result of serotonin depletion.
>
>
HI I GRADUALLY INCREASED IT I WOULD ON AVERAGE TAKE PILLS ON THE SATURADAY ONE SESSION PER WEEK. I STARTED WITH THE SINGLE PILL PER SESSION WITHIN A YEAR I WAS TAKING FIVE OR SIX AND NOT EVEN FEELING THAT GOOD, I THEN STARED TO MIX IT LOADS, WITH COCAINE, KETAMINE, LOADS OF ALCOHOL, AND SOMETIMES LSD. THE SECOND YEAR WAS LIKE THAT MOST WEEKENDS ON THREE TO FIVE DIFFERENT DRUGS PER WEEKEND. THEN THE THIRD YEAR WAS DOWN TO ONE OR TWO PILLS PER MONTH, AND MORE OTHER DRUGS SUCH AS ALCOHOL OR COCAINE.
I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT I MYSELF KNOW OF THE DEPRESSION SYPTOM, BUT MY PROBLEMS WENT MUCH BEYOND THAT TO THIS PYHSICAL DAMAGE, WHICH I AM STILL RECOVERING FROM, WITH DEPRESSION ONE OF THE LESSER SYMPTOMS.
CHEERS
JAMES
Posted by jamesn on November 25, 2003, at 8:06:36
In reply to Redirected: mdma brain damage, posted by Dr. Bob on November 20, 2003, at 17:57:05
> Re: mdma brain damage are you suffering too?
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> Posted by cookie0876 on November 19, 2003, at 18:34:52
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> In reply to mdma brain damage are you suffering too?, posted by jamesn on November 18, 2003, at 10:12:36
>
> You mentioned strange sensations in your head but didn't describe them. Do they feel like mild jolts of electricity or vibrations at all? I had a similar experience after smoking ice. I smoked it about six months until this one dreadful night when I had a major panic attack accompanied by vibrations all over my body. I never had mania or anxiety before this. Doctors speculate this brought out an underlying illness. I think it's crap. I think I have brain damage. I think I did this to myself. I take wellbutrin. It doesn't really help with the vibrations or weird sensations, but it helps me from totally freaking out or crying all night about it. Benzos are the only things that work for me. What is this miracle drug that you speak of? I don't know if this type of brain damage will repair itself over time. Once you have it, you're stuck with it... RIGHT? cookie_0876@hotmail.com
Hi cookie I have tryed to email you but it didn't work, I can tell you what has worked for me, and go into more details if you email me, I have recovered from these problems once, maybe not everyone does, but it is possible
cheers
james
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> Re: mdma brain damage are you suffering too? » cookie0876
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> Posted by pixygoth on November 20, 2003, at 14:49:40
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> In reply to Re: mdma brain damage are you suffering too?, posted by cookie0876 on November 19, 2003, at 18:34:52
>
> I just want to say that they *used* to think brain damage was irreversible - but stuff like this (your head feelings sound oddly like Effexor withdrawal by the way) I'm sure can fix itself. It's a matter of the brain reconstructing the mechanisms that were damaged, not necessarily in the same "place", but with new neural cells...
> get me?
> There are I'm sure more qualified people than I here to talk about this.
> S
Posted by cookie0876 on November 25, 2003, at 21:58:55
In reply to Re: Redirected: mdma brain damage, posted by jamesn on November 25, 2003, at 8:06:36
Are you fatlips? If so, I received your email and replied! What worked for you? Thanks so much for your response. By the way, I'm off all SSRI's as of three days ago and dropped the Seroquel. An MD told me maybe I was probably having partial complex seizures from some brain damage. I wonder if temporal lobe brain damage can repair itself? I have to say I have been feeling better the past few days with wellbutrin out of my system, but I'm afraid I'll get really depressed in a few days.
Posted by jamesn on November 27, 2003, at 7:54:31
In reply to Re: Redirected: mdma brain damage, posted by cookie0876 on November 25, 2003, at 21:58:55
HI
IM NOT FATLIPS
I HAVE TRYED AGAIN TO SEND THE EMAIL, MAYBE IT WAS A TECHNICAL PROBLEM.
CHEERS
JAMES
Posted by cookie0876 on November 27, 2003, at 11:56:46
In reply to Re: Redirected: mdma brain damage, posted by jamesn on November 27, 2003, at 7:54:31
Well, try this one:
pissychrissy_76@hotmail.comI'd love to hear from you. Thx.
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