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Posted by Susan J on May 25, 2004, at 8:22:53
OK, politics aside, I'm a little irked (well, very upset) that the major networks didn't carry the President's speech last night. No, he didn't say anything we haven't heard before, but I think the American public has a right to hear what their president is cooking up. And shocker, not *everyone* has access to cable.
Sad to me that sweeps month won out over listening to a guy that has the power to send us to war.
Posted by partlycloudy on May 25, 2004, at 8:31:17
In reply to President vs. Fear Factor, posted by Susan J on May 25, 2004, at 8:22:53
It is such a sad statement about the perceived apathy in the country, isn't it?
Posted by Susan J on May 25, 2004, at 8:39:29
In reply to Re: President vs. Fear Factor » Susan J, posted by partlycloudy on May 25, 2004, at 8:31:17
Yeah, it is, because if the public demanded it, the networks would carry it. I just feel like this president has had such serious, DIRECT impact on the lives of Americans, that we'd want to know what he's up to. His policy decisions have impacted our pocketbooks, and sent off people's brothers and sisters and spouses and kids to war.
I know that all the news shows are carrying sound bites today, but it's different to actually *listen* to the speech and *feel* what the tone is, if he's trying to hide something, or if he's sincere.
I mean, he mispronounced Abu Ghraib prison. Is that one of his regular word mangling incidents, or was it done on PURPOSE to further distance himself from the treatment of prisoners there?
Plus, I wanted to see if that bike accident really screwed up his face. :-)
Posted by gardenergirl on May 25, 2004, at 9:49:00
In reply to Re: President vs. Fear Factor » partlycloudy, posted by Susan J on May 25, 2004, at 8:39:29
Ugh, he did mangle that word, hugely. But he did manage to avoid smirking until the very end. But I can't stand his near-whistling "s"'s. Sssshibilance...sh.
And it seems like his speech writers have figured out that less alliteration is better.
But still, ugh!
gg
Posted by Susan J on May 25, 2004, at 9:52:37
In reply to Re: President vs. Fear Factor, posted by gardenergirl on May 25, 2004, at 9:49:00
>> And it seems like his speech writers have figured out that less alliteration is better.
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> But still, ugh!
>
> gg<<LOL! Yeah, but I think Bush does better with a scripted speech. When he's answering *on his own* he fumbles painfully. I thought the exact opposite of Clinton. I thought his speeches felt strained and forced, while off the cuff, he seemed so passionate and strong in his beliefs....
Posted by partlycloudy on May 25, 2004, at 9:56:27
In reply to Prez's Speeches » gardenergirl, posted by Susan J on May 25, 2004, at 9:52:37
I honestly cannot stand the way the entire Bush family men speak. George, Jeb, and George Dubbya all have a way of making my stomach lurch, no matter what the message is. I can't explain it, but it's a visceral response like leaping into the air when I see a snake.
Hmmm i think that analogy came from a Freudian part of my brain....
Posted by gardenergirl on May 25, 2004, at 10:13:38
In reply to Re: Prez's Speeches » Susan J, posted by partlycloudy on May 25, 2004, at 9:56:27
Posted by Susan J on May 25, 2004, at 10:14:10
In reply to Re: Prez's Speeches » Susan J, posted by partlycloudy on May 25, 2004, at 9:56:27
Jeb's son....I think he's hot, but then, I've never heard him speak. :-)
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/04/11/1018333389921.html
Posted by partlycloudy on May 25, 2004, at 10:51:33
In reply to What about George P.? » partlycloudy, posted by Susan J on May 25, 2004, at 10:14:10
I can't say I've heard him speak either. Maybe he's got enough of Columba's genes to be an improvement on the old man!
Posted by jay on May 25, 2004, at 11:05:39
In reply to Re: Prez's Speeches » Susan J, posted by partlycloudy on May 25, 2004, at 9:56:27
Posted by crushedout on May 25, 2004, at 21:38:46
In reply to Re: Prez's Speeches » Susan J, posted by partlycloudy on May 25, 2004, at 9:56:27
Posted by TexasChic on May 26, 2004, at 10:09:27
In reply to Re: Prez's Speeches » Susan J, posted by partlycloudy on May 25, 2004, at 9:56:27
Its probably the West TX accent you're hearing. People talk differently depending on what part of the state they're in. I've noticed alot of people do the 's' lisp thing too. Its kind of a country thing. West and East TX tend to be more country and cattle and open spaces. Central and South are more metropolitan. I think in any state that has that kind of diversity, there will be different ways of speaking. You would think though, that someone in the political eye would try to at least use proper pronounciation and grammer. And for the record, I flinch every time he says "terra" instead of "terror".
Posted by Susan J on May 26, 2004, at 10:18:09
In reply to Re: Prez's Speeches, posted by TexasChic on May 26, 2004, at 10:09:27
Posted by TexasChic on May 26, 2004, at 12:06:34
In reply to OK, where does *nu-kyu-ler* bomb come from? :-) (nm) » TexasChic, posted by Susan J on May 26, 2004, at 10:18:09
That's another one of those that makes me shudder. Come on Bush! Don't make us look like hillbillies or something!
Another one that bothers me is 'yellow'. My whole family pronounces it 'yella'. It always irritated me though, so I say it correctly. Pretty much anyone in a professional environment will use the correct pronounciations. It really just depends on how self aware you are. I took a voice and diction class in college and it really opened my eyes.
But in the south's defense, there are words that are mispronounced up north too, its just more acceptable for some reason.
Posted by AuntieMel on May 26, 2004, at 12:12:55
In reply to Re: Prez's Speeches, posted by TexasChic on May 26, 2004, at 10:09:27
I think the accent is affected. He did after all come from privilege, go to the best schools and all.
I have been told I don't have a Texas accent, but I sure can put one on when visiting foreign countries like New York.
Barbara must cringe when she hears any of her men folk talk.
For fun, browse the bushisms.
http://www.bushisms.com/NewQuotes.html
Examples:
"Drug therapies are replacing a lot of medicines as we used to know it."
"I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions. I can't answer your question."
From their home page ( http://www.bushisms.com) a quote:KARL ROVE, Bush's long-time political guru and White House advisor:
"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans...
...unless they have too much education and vote Democratic,
which proves there can be too much of a good thing."
Posted by Susan J on May 26, 2004, at 12:16:12
In reply to Re: OK, where does *nu-kyu-ler* bomb come from? :, posted by TexasChic on May 26, 2004, at 12:06:34
I think our own regional accents probably bother us the worst. Bush's accent, per se, doesn't really bother me, but as a DC area native, when people around here say
WARSH-ington or WARSH the carIt drives me nuts!
Posted by TexasChic on May 26, 2004, at 13:04:56
In reply to Re: Prez's Speeches, posted by AuntieMel on May 26, 2004, at 12:12:55
Wow! That was so great! I'm begining to think he may out do Quayle before this is over!
I didn't understand what you meant by the accent was 'affected'. Do you mean you think he's faking it?
Posted by AuntieMel on May 26, 2004, at 13:22:54
In reply to Re: Prez's Speeches AuntieMel, posted by TexasChic on May 26, 2004, at 13:04:56
I mean that with his advantages growing up I don't see how this could be his natural way of speaking. His wife and mother certainly don't speak like that and I doubt it is the vernacular at Yale. So, yes, I believe that the males of the family, consciously or unconsciously, have determined that the accent makes them sound more reachable.
Posted by TexasChic on May 26, 2004, at 13:53:22
In reply to Re: Prez's Speeches AuntieMel TexasChic, posted by AuntieMel on May 26, 2004, at 13:22:54
I wouldn't doubt that one bit. Like he's trying to be a 'good old boy' or something. Whatever, he's rich, privileged, and in politics, so I don't trust him. There is no telling how much goes on in the world that we as the general public will never know about. It'll be in history books someday.
Posted by AuntieMel on May 26, 2004, at 15:07:39
In reply to Re: Prez's Speeches AuntieMel, posted by TexasChic on May 26, 2004, at 13:53:22
Rich, in politics, etc. Certainly I wouldn't trust him either.
As much as I'd like to see him go, I have to admit he is an amusing, bandy legged little f###er.
It cracked me up that he went on and on about what a good governor he was while he was running. I even had folks from out of state ask me if it was true. Of course it's true (grin) 'cause in our wonderful distrustful state the guv has no power!
Posted by gardenergirl on May 26, 2004, at 18:08:38
In reply to Re: OK, where does *nu-kyu-ler* bomb come from? :, posted by TexasChic on May 26, 2004, at 12:06:34
Posted by partlycloudy on May 27, 2004, at 7:53:45
In reply to where does *nu-kyu-ler* come from? Ignorance? :) (nm), posted by gardenergirl on May 26, 2004, at 18:08:38
It's just his Bush-iness mangling the english language in his own inimitable way. He's not as spectacular than Dan Quayle was.
Posted by gardenergirl on May 27, 2004, at 13:29:39
In reply to Re: where does *nu-kyu-ler* come from? » gardenergirl, posted by partlycloudy on May 27, 2004, at 7:53:45
Posted by partlycloudy on May 27, 2004, at 14:08:52
In reply to Re: where does *nu-kyu-ler* come from? » gardenergirl, posted by partlycloudy on May 27, 2004, at 7:53:45
Posted by gardenergirl on May 29, 2004, at 1:42:23
In reply to Ha! I think our president is taking E's. (nm) » partlycloudy, posted by partlycloudy on May 27, 2004, at 14:08:52
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