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Posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 12:48:39
I've certainly read about this here, but have never felt like this that I can remember.
My wonderful T is so helpful for me.
Just went on her online book-an-appointment site to book for next week & next week isn't listed. Just the 2 weeks after that are on the screen.
I just emailed her (which she asked me to do regarding an exercise that she suggested might help me & I think she wants to see my ongoing reactions maybe to understand better how I think?) Anyway told her how I'm feeling.
I feel SO pathetic. I'm not used to being so needy & whiney lately. I guess I'm afraid it won't get better.
As I said in the email, I'm afraid I won't be able to pull myself out of the current onto the safety of the shore.
:-(( Kath
Oh yeah - 'minor point' - haven't eaten anything & it's almost 2 pm. Dohhhh
That might contribute!
Posted by Partlycloudy on February 18, 2009, at 13:50:34
In reply to T-might-not-be-available Anxiety, posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 12:48:39
My body has a hard time distinguishing between hunger and anxiety. I've only noticed this since my PTSD experience and eating difficulty that cropped up in December. Sometimes I think I'm having a panic attack, then I'll nibble on something, and I'll feel a bit better. My pdoc says these signals are interrelated (??).
pc
Posted by antigua3 on February 18, 2009, at 15:34:30
In reply to Re: T-might-not-be-available Anxiety » Kath, posted by Partlycloudy on February 18, 2009, at 13:50:34
My husband was just giving me a hard time for not eating all day. I'm upset about therapy this morning and I'm just not hungry. Making dinner for the family right now, though, and I will eat that.
I know logically that if I eat, I will feel better, but I'm not hungry. Anxious? You betcha. Caffeine can only take you so far!
Funny this would be brought up as it is so prominent for me today.
antigua
Posted by rskontos on February 18, 2009, at 16:43:49
In reply to Re: T-might-not-be-available Anxiety » Partlycloudy, posted by antigua3 on February 18, 2009, at 15:34:30
I too struggle with eating. I never thought it had anything to do with anxiety, which I have tons of? mmmmmm something to think about and ask my p-doc about.
I know I have a loss of appetite from thyroid and adrenal issues but never did think about it being anxiety related.
Well duh, now that I think about that one day I got so upset I had to throw my lunch away cuz I couldn't eat one bite.
I often go until 4 pm before I eat but that is bad for adrenal issues.
I am trying to be better.
Sorry so many of us having anxiety problems right now.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on February 18, 2009, at 16:44:36
In reply to Re: T-might-not-be-available Anxiety » antigua3, posted by rskontos on February 18, 2009, at 16:43:49
Posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 16:58:27
In reply to Re: T-might-not-be-available Anxiety » Partlycloudy, posted by antigua3 on February 18, 2009, at 15:34:30
Hi A,
I always eat supper - no problem.
I ate a huge piece of cheese & a very nice home-made muffin today. I'm going to eat a really big supper.
It makes me feel less alone in it to hear other people having trouble with eating. Hope we all can get to a good place of nourishing ourselves.
Isn't it odd that some people really want to EAT when they're anxious & others do NOT want to eat or can't.
hugs, Kath
Posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 17:00:31
In reply to Re: T-might-not-be-available Anxiety » antigua3, posted by rskontos on February 18, 2009, at 16:43:49
Turns out T emailed me back & can speak with me for 1/2 hour tomorrow & gave me an appt that she had set aside for 'new people' who might call - next Monday.
Sigh of relief.
Kath
Posted by Partlycloudy on February 18, 2009, at 17:02:11
In reply to Re: T-might-not-be-available Anxiety » antigua3, posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 16:58:27
It does seem to be related to the control we have over situations. We can control our hunger = we can control our situations. Yet this is not true. In my experience so far.
pc
Posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 17:07:41
In reply to Re: T-might-not-be-available Anxiety » Kath, posted by Partlycloudy on February 18, 2009, at 17:02:11
Eating is putting food into my mouth.
I know from some inner child work I did that I want control around this.
Sorry. I don't know how else to say it discreetly.
Kath
Posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 17:09:40
In reply to *****trigger***** CSA, posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 17:07:41
If I'm anxious my tummy feels tight. So partly I just don't want to eat because of that.
Partly, not eating is about not nourishing myself too.
Kath
Posted by rskontos on February 18, 2009, at 17:36:35
In reply to Anxiety + eating/nourishing myself or non, posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 17:09:40
Kath,
glad your t called! My tummy does the tight feeling too.
take care,
rsk
Posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 17:54:37
In reply to Re: Anxiety + eating/nourishing myself or non » Kath, posted by rskontos on February 18, 2009, at 17:36:35
> Kath,
>
> glad your t called! My tummy does the tight feeling too.
>
> take care,
>
> rsk~ ~ ~ Thanks rsk. I can't remember a time when my tummy hasn't done the tight feeling if I'm anxious. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens to a lot of people.
:-) take care also, hugs, Kath
Posted by seldomseen on February 18, 2009, at 18:27:52
In reply to Anxiety + eating/nourishing myself or non, posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 17:09:40
Yeah, I know.
My stomach gets all knotted as well.
However, I have found that if I just get *one bite* of food down, I can usually eat after that.
I keep emergency chocolate around. I know that sounds cliche, but really expensive high cocoa content chocolate... It usually opens that door for me.
Take good care, and I'm so glad you can talk to your t soon.
Seldom.
Posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 18:43:52
In reply to Re: Anxiety + eating/nourishing myself or non » Kath, posted by seldomseen on February 18, 2009, at 18:27:52
Oh - the chocolate - that's a good idea to start eating with.
:-)) Kath
Posted by muffled on February 18, 2009, at 20:11:58
In reply to Re: Anxiety + eating/nourishing myself or non » rskontos, posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 17:54:37
Take care of yourself.
You spend lotsa time caring for others, care for yourself too.
I am glad you are posting. You have a tough row to hoe as us farmers say.
Give your self a big break.
(((Kath)))
M
Posted by backseatdriver on February 19, 2009, at 10:40:16
In reply to Re: Anxiety + eating/nourishing myself or non » seldomseen, posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 18:43:52
I get this, too. Tight tummy, and I don't want to *chew*, because chewing means biting and biting means destroying, and heaven forbid I should feel any anger toward my mother! I know it sounds glib - I wish I had another way to express myself. I just want to say, hang in there. You're entitled to take care of yourself in exactly the way that feels best to you. BSD
Posted by Phillipa on February 19, 2009, at 13:09:07
In reply to Re: Anxiety + eating/nourishing myself or non, posted by backseatdriver on February 19, 2009, at 10:40:16
And I thought my lack of appetite was the loss of taste and smell five years ago now. Two specialists virus in nose???? Don't buy this. But seems the only kind of enjoyment is eating truffles dark chocolate at night on the computer it's soothing to suck on them a slight taste. never feel hungry or full? Anyone know what causes this? Kath I wondered why you weren't on social. glad you got the appointment. Love and hugs. Phillipaxxxxxxx
Posted by antigua3 on February 19, 2009, at 14:38:04
In reply to Re: T-might-not-be-available Anxiety » Kath, posted by Partlycloudy on February 18, 2009, at 17:02:11
I agree w/what you said about control and eating. Control is very important to me because there are so many things outside my control, but, hey, I can control what I put in my body.
For me, it's also a form of punishment, self-denying (is that even a word?) as in denying myself nourishment because I don't think I deserve it, especially when I'm in a trigger situation. In this case, this means to be hungry, but to not eat as a punishment for what a horrible person I am. I know I'm not, but that's the tape running through my head when I'm in a bad place.
antigua
Posted by Kath on February 19, 2009, at 21:02:14
In reply to (((((Kath)))), posted by muffled on February 18, 2009, at 20:11:58
Thanks Muffy - I always get a warm feeling when I see your name.
:-) Kath
Posted by raisinb on February 19, 2009, at 21:04:36
In reply to Anxiety + eating/nourishing myself or non, posted by Kath on February 18, 2009, at 17:09:40
Not eating can also be physically addictive (sometimes a component in eating disorders). Starvation triggers release of certain neurotransmitters like dopamine and adrenaline and sometimes you can get habituated to that feeling and it helps you get through when you're stressed.
I have a specific pattern when I'm upset or depressed or anxious. I make sure I eat regularly but somehow can't get enough down and I start losing weight. And I smoke a lot, which I'm sure doesn't help. I always think what we do when we're upset is a good set of cues about our unique body chemistries and how to treat us.
I wish you peace and nourishment :)
Posted by Kath on February 19, 2009, at 21:10:31
In reply to Re: T-might-not-be-available Anxiety » Partlycloudy, posted by antigua3 on February 19, 2009, at 14:38:04
Had a half hour talk with T this morning. It was wonderful.
She helped my look at something & I realized it was true......that I was picking up my son's feelings.
I guess it's a kind of transference or cross transference or something. Anyway, as we were talking about it, the heavy heavy feelings started to melt away. I was so thankful that she was able to talk with me. She's great.
Thank you all for being here for me & encouraging me & saying kind supportive things that helped me.
xoxoxoxoxoxoxo Kath
PS - today was my birthday & I enjoyed my day & the nicest thing was that I was working up to telling my son that I needed him to have some structure in his life - to DO something etc. And this afternoon, he was talking to me about how he feels he's ready to go forward getting involved in a program offered by the YMCA. He even phoned & left a message for them to call him.
So I have learned from the past to not get TOO excited about it, but it's a positive move & I told him that the timing is good, because I was just working up to letting him know that it is NOT working for me that he doesn't have structure to his days....that it makes me feel unsettled & anxious & I'm really glad that he's come to a place where he plans to go forward. So that was a nice birthday present!!
:-) Kath
Posted by Kath on February 22, 2009, at 16:31:20
In reply to Re: Anxiety + eating/nourishing myself or non » Kath, posted by raisinb on February 19, 2009, at 21:04:36
> Not eating can also be physically addictive (sometimes a component in eating disorders). Starvation triggers release of certain neurotransmitters like dopamine and adrenaline and sometimes you can get habituated to that feeling and it helps you get through when you're stressed.
That is really really interesting!!! I'm going to print it & take with me to T's.
Thanks, hugs, Kath
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