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Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 13, 2009, at 20:42:07
In reply to Re: My T says he deserves a little humilation » LadyBug, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 13, 2009, at 18:29:36
Song lyrics that make me think of him now
Kelly Clarkson, "Gone"
"Gone"What you see's not what you get
With you there's just no measurement
No way to tell what's real from what isn't there
Your eyes they sparkle
That's all changed into lies that drop like acid rain
You washed away the best of me
You don't careYou know you did it
I'm gone
To find someone to live for
In this world
There's no light at the end of the tunnel tonight
Just a bridge that I gotta burn
You were wrong
If you think you can walk right through my door
That is just so you
Coming back when I've finally moved on
I'm already goneSometimes shattered
Never open
Nothing matters
When you're broken
That was me whenever I was with you
Always ending
Always over
Back and forth, up and down like a rollercoaster
I am breaking
That habit
TodayYou know you did it
I'm gone
To find someone to live for
In this world
There's no light at the end of the tunnel tonight
Just a bridge that I gotta burn
You were wrong
If you think you can walk right through my door
That is just so you
Coming back when I've finally moved on
I'm already goneThere is nothing you can say
Sorry doesn't cut it, babe
Take the hit and walk away
'Cause I'm gone
Doesn't matter what you do
It's what you did that's hurting you
All I needed was the truth
Now I'm gone*and*
Boots Made For Walking, Nancy Sintra
These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.You keep lying, when you oughta be truthin'
and you keep losin' when you oughta not bet.
You keep samin' when you oughta be changin'.
Now what's right is right, but you ain't been right yet.These boots are made for walking, and that's just what they'll do
one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you.You keep playin' where you shouldn't be playin
and you keep thinkin' that you�ll never get burnt.
Ha! I just found me a brand new box of matches yeah
and what he know you ain't HAD time to learn.Are you ready boots? Start walkin'!
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 13, 2009, at 21:28:11
In reply to Re: My T says he deserves a little humilation, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 13, 2009, at 20:42:07
"If you died, I wouldn't come to your funeral."
"I am yelling at you because you are not listening to me"
"I don't care about you"
"Let me show you my magic card trick."
"You need to find a boy toy."
"Have an affair with somebody already married, it is better."
"Try mushrooms instead of LSD"
"My wife doesn't do that in bed."
"I'm a better father than a husband."
"I lied to my daughter by telling her that her mom was a virgin when we got married"
"marriage is a crap shoot"
"I have bad breath at night"
"i want to lose 20lbs."
"I don't dance in public because my family makes fun of me"
"I don't sing either in public"
"wanna hear me play stairway to heaven on the guitar"
"Stupid religious people annoy me."
"I like to mess with those religious people that come to my door"
"I smoked a lot of things in college."
"Wanna see me juggle?"
" I will probably have to survive just on social security when I retire"
"wanna see my daughter's picture"
"I smoked pot for a government study."
"I used to be a streaker."
"When streaking,it took away the inhibition with girls, I got to see what they had, and I liked it"
"I used to pick up girl at college with my opera T-shirt"
"I had to leave my alcoholic friends, in order not to become like them"
"I hate those digital prostate exams."
"The *ssh*l* should be a one way only"
" I thought my lack of erections were due to my wife yelling at me and being overweight, but it was due to a lack of testosterone, so now I use cream.
"Wanna see my surgery leg scars."
"Look at my certificates on the wall."
"I like that buzzed feeling from drinking."
"I don't know why when I see a trumpet player,
I always think of you."
"Thanks for telling me to plant a trumpet vine, it
reminds me of you when I water it."
"I make a mean pot of chili."
"Wanna see my childhood photo's"
"You were talking to my best friend at the gym."
"My horniest is not as bad as it used to be."
"I'm tired of eating at Tippecanoe on New Years with my wife."
"When we got horny in college, we just did it, we didn't do oral sex."
" I left my girlfriend like a coward by writing her a letter."
"Wanna see my picture of my old grade school crush?"
"Look at this picture of where I grew up, where I used to play basketball."
"It sucks I can't have a social relationship with you, I don't feel
that way about most of my clients either."
"You are cute."
"I missed you at the gym today."
"Some girls are dumber than a box of rocks."
"I am taking off work for my colonospsy."
"You would like the drugs they give you during a colonospy"
" I don't think of myself as a psychologist at a party, I am just trying to pick up the girl with the big t*ts at the bar"
"My sister had a big bag of pot on the table at home,
when the cops came to my house."
"In high school I always wondered why the girls wouldn't pick me to date."
" I like to show off to the girls on how I knew my way around downtown Chicago"
"I learned how to play , Body and Soul on the piano."
"After my bad trip at the lake, I stopped using LSD."
"If I am dying, I want to have some LSD again."
"My daughter is spending her summer playing beer pong"
"My brother is a untreated alcoholic"
"My brother drives a stupid Jeep"
"Wanna read my brother's book about using EMDR and connecting with dead people?
"My brother used to get really bad athlete's feet"
"My mom used to ream out my dad in therapy"
"My conception was a mistake"
" I used to snoop in my parents bedroom all the time"
"My sister suffers from depression all her life"
"My older sister has the same B-day as you"
"My younger sister didn't want to have anything to do with my kid, but now she wants everyone to pay attention to hers"
"I am an indulgent parent"
"My parents had a horrible marriage"
"wanna see my parents in Life magazine?"
"I think a southern accent is so sexy"
"having your toenails done is so frivolous"
"my wife gets mad when I talk to some women"
"did you see the newspaper article where I was called a local hero?"
"I am cheap"
" I am not a dog person"
"I have a mouse phobia"
"fireworks freak me out"
"I don't have a very good chest, but my legs are good"
"I almost broke my HS record in swimming"
"I am a very good swimmer"
" I know a lot about basketball"
"you can meet me after the Sunburst with a cup of water"
"can I come over for your Polish X-mas dinner"
"I really hate stupid people"
"I am a very good liar"
"some people should die and not have babies to stop their gene pool from multiplying"
"Just put on a movie for the kids and masturbate for a couple of hours in another room"
"men always think of being with another women when they are having sex with their wife"
"Everyone has a sexual hangup"
"We all think about how things would be if we married someone else"
"I don't believe in transference"
Posted by jammerlich on February 13, 2009, at 21:37:42
In reply to Re: My T says he deserves a little humilation » wittgensteinz, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 13, 2009, at 18:20:31
I mean, full disclosure and all that jazz. Just curious.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 13, 2009, at 21:42:55
In reply to Did you tell your T about the Sh*t List Thingy? » HappyChaiTea, posted by jammerlich on February 13, 2009, at 21:37:42
Yes
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 13, 2009, at 22:35:00
In reply to Did you tell your T about the Sh*t List Thingy? » HappyChaiTea, posted by jammerlich on February 13, 2009, at 21:37:42
My T has read this sh*t list above, why do you ask?
She feels I am justified in defending myself.
Posted by wittgensteinz on February 14, 2009, at 5:29:40
In reply to Re: My T says he deserves a little humilation » wittgensteinz, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 13, 2009, at 18:20:31
Now that's much better :) - I hope you don't feel like you have to be happy but I don't get the feeling that calling yourself a 'slug' is being true to yourself (understatement) - just be yourself and be fair to yourself and leave those slugs behind.
Witti
Posted by wittgensteinz on February 14, 2009, at 5:34:52
In reply to Re: My T says he deserves a little humilation » wittgensteinz, posted by SlugSlimersSoSlided on February 13, 2009, at 18:17:30
I think the desire to be special, to be loved is very strong (innate?) - of course you were vulnerable in your relationship with that man and it's not your fault. It wouldn't have been your fault had you asked him to say those things even or if you'd done your very best to encourage him (please note, I'm not saying you did this) - it's his responsibility to keep boundaries and be professional. You did nothing wrong. Hopefully in time you will believe it and internalise it.
Witti
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 14, 2009, at 8:12:48
In reply to Re: My T says he deserves a little humilation » SlugSlimersSoSlided, posted by wittgensteinz on February 14, 2009, at 5:34:52
Thanks Witti,
I salted those slugs for now. lol I trying hard to believe everyone and my T that what my T did was his fault, his responsibility.
Some people ask me well didn't you need this to feel better about yourself, etc. I have heard it all, and it puts the responsibility on me, like I asked for it. When will the world stop blaming the victim in things? The thing is most victims do blame themselves so when people say comments like this, it just brings even more shame on the victims.
I just wish I didn't feel so much pain, maybe it felt good at the time, but the pain now is not worth it at all. That is why T's shouldn't do these things, there are no short term fixes, they need to be ethical.
Intellectually I get it, but emotionally I am struggling so much to believe it wasn't my fault. I feel we were both adults, blah blah blah, but we were not equal, he was my T.
Sorry for my rambling Witti....
Thank you for your support Witti
Posted by jammerlich on February 14, 2009, at 8:32:03
In reply to Re: Did you tell your T about the Sh*t List Thingy? » jammerlich, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 13, 2009, at 21:42:55
Is that the "humiliation" of which you spoke? For him and then some? Busy, busy it seems.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 14, 2009, at 9:30:26
In reply to Re: Did you tell your T about the Sh*t List Thingy? » HappyChaiTea, posted by jammerlich on February 14, 2009, at 8:32:03
Thanks for your support Jammer. Don't you remember the good times we had in Chicago, where you taught me to take shots of tequila at that Spanish restaurant and those banana desserts. lol At least "I" didn't feel you up.lol
I don't have a lot of time, but I will defend myself against the sh*tty people in the world who go around and hurt others and myself, I just won't roll over and play dead, and do the poor me thing. If people give me sh*t, I will give it right back to them, more quality sh*t in fact. If they don't like it, then they need to quit giving out servings. So yeah, my T is proud I am holding those accountable for the things they have done. We have talked extensively about this. We talked about unethical stuff T's do, and I am taking a stand against it.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 14, 2009, at 9:44:36
In reply to Re: Did you tell your T about the Sh*t List Thingy? » jammerlich, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 14, 2009, at 9:30:26
Kinda reminds me of an old friend who didn't like her roommate, and sent out a ton of magazines requests in her name. How she felt the pleasure of when her roommate was getting all those bills for magazines she didn't order. Tampering with the US mail and everything and it felt good to her. Yeah, a lot of people like to give people a good dose of their own medicine from time to time, it is those who pretend to be innocent are the ones to watch out for.
Posted by jammerlich on February 15, 2009, at 11:11:41
In reply to Re: Did you tell your T about the Sh*t List Thingy? » jammerlich, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 14, 2009, at 9:30:26
What I meant and what I think you may have inferred seem to be two different things.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 14:41:38
In reply to To Clarify » HappyChaiTea, posted by jammerlich on February 15, 2009, at 11:11:41
I have no idea what you are talking about now or earlier. This thread was about my current T supporting me in seeing that what my 1st T did was wrong, anything other than this, I have no idea what you are talking about. Could you please explain what your post are asking me?
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 14:56:49
In reply to To Clarify » HappyChaiTea, posted by jammerlich on February 15, 2009, at 11:11:41
Plus my postings are pretty direct in meaning,at least I thought they were. I don't think there are any inferment to be had. Your posts are the one's that don't make any sense to me pertaining to what the subject is. I am confused... So do you not support what my lady T says, that what my 1st T did to me was my fault? Do you not agree that he deserves any grief about the unethical stuff he did? I am trying to figure out if you are being supportive of me and my T or not, it is hard to tell. We don't post to each so much anymore and have lost touch so I have no idea what you are trying to convey to me.
I believe my first post in the thread tells what I am talking about pretty clearly, or doesn't it?
What don't you understand, maybe someone here can explain it better? Plus you know the story about my first T, you were here at Babble after me.
Posted by jammerlich on February 15, 2009, at 15:04:05
In reply to Re: To Clarify, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 14:41:38
I'd be more than happy to refresh your memory; however, doing so here would require posting links which, I'm quite sure, would be considered uncivil. As would babblemailing them to you, I think; though I'd need deputy input to be absolutely sure about that. If you'd like to send me an email address via babblemail, I could send you the links that way. Happy to help in any way I can!
Posted by no_rose_garden on February 15, 2009, at 15:06:30
In reply to His disosures--*triggers* I am so glad I fired him, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 13, 2009, at 21:28:11
He said all these things chai?
Some of them seem ok (depending on context, of course)...but some of them not so much :/I know i've said this before, but I'm glad you have new T :) I know you are too.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 15:41:04
In reply to Re: To Clarify » HappyChaiTea, posted by jammerlich on February 15, 2009, at 15:04:05
So your posts have nothing to do with my old T and my T supporting me or you supporting me?
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 15:50:18
In reply to Re: His disosures » HappyChaiTea, posted by no_rose_garden on February 15, 2009, at 15:06:30
Thanks Norosegarden,
Yeah, I am happy to have my lady T, she really understands those who are suffering from PTSD due to past abuse and T abuse. The behaviors from PTSD are hard for those to understand who don't much about the disorder. I am so glad my current T keep tight boundaries because I need to feel safe. So some of the stuff my 1st T said would have been okay if it wasn't for all the others stuff, and his actions which I didn't post about lately.
It is kinda a whole picture kind of deal, my past childhood abuse, plus all that he did, he just repeated someone in power over me, taking advantage of me.
I am trying to move past it, it will take time my T said because it was abuse too, just like my childhood abuse, only a different type.
Posted by jammerlich on February 15, 2009, at 16:40:23
In reply to Re: To Clarify » jammerlich, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 15:41:04
Oh, they have very much to do with your old T and what your new T thinks of the WHOLE situation. ;)
I wish you all the best in exploring healthful ways of getting through your experience with him.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 21:27:26
In reply to Re: To Clarify » HappyChaiTea, posted by jammerlich on February 15, 2009, at 16:40:23
> Oh, they have very much to do with your old T and what your new T thinks of the WHOLE situation. ;)
>
What does "they" have to do with my old unethical T? My T does know the whole situation, maybe it is you that is missing some of the story because your comments and words are confusing to me, Do you not believe what he did to me as being abuse? Maybe I am not handling the abuse the perfect way or something? My T hasn't said I am doing anything wrong, in fact she wants me to feel the hurt and anger and express it.> I wish you all the best in exploring healthful ways of getting through your experience with him.
Sorry you don't see my ways with dealing with abuse from my T as being healthy, but my T has validated me in what I did as being okay considering what he did to me and she does know the WHOLE story, more than any babbler on here. We are talking about taking him up in front of the licensing board. What little shame I might be causing him is NOTHING compared to what he did to me. I am going to stand up for myself and fight against him.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 21:33:58
In reply to Re: To Clarify » jammerlich, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 21:27:26
I think I will just go away to my cave where I can be safe. I am feeling very misunderstood and I am not strong enough to fight anymore. It is so hard to believe my T that it wasn't my fault, and now I just want to disappear. IT reminds me of my relatives that didn't believe my mom could ever burn and torture me, that is why I never told till now. I am sorry I ever posted again on here.
What my exT did was wrong, my T said, is she lying to me ? It is my fault then that he abused me? I don't even get to see her this week, and I just find myself sinking so deep now.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 22:24:53
In reply to Re: To Clarify » HappyChaiTea, posted by jammerlich on February 15, 2009, at 16:40:23
I have never done anything you.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 22:49:34
In reply to Re: To Clarify » jammerlich, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 22:24:53
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 16, 2009, at 3:56:07
In reply to I am feeling really sad now, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 21:33:58
WEll actually I am not going to go anywhere, I haven't done anything wrong, I have been totally upfront with my T about everything and she supports me. What my T did was wrong and thank you to those who supported me on this thread and elsewhere.
Jammer, I am not sure what all this inferring is about, I HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY CLEAR, on that I talked to my T about EVERYTHING. Plus the way I am handling my ex-T is FINE according to her, and hence my posting this in the first place.In fact she hopes I express myself even further.
I was looking for some support that agreed with my T, that the situation was NOT MY FAULT. This post was not to be a judge and jury on the perfect way of handling a unethical therapist, it was for support. Having I been through enough without having to also defend me and my T?
Inferring that I am not being honest with my T has me feeling put down, hurt and feeling unsupported. I tell my T everything, I have a good relationship with her, a healing one. Can anyone else imagine how this feels to be told this?
All I am looking for is some support, I have been trying really hard in therapy to overcome my obstacles,(we all have them, don't we)I just don't understand why you think I don't tell my T everything and that I am not handling my ex T in a healthy way, because my T tells me I am, and she knows everything. I have said this several times, so just what is your point in bringing this up again and again after I already said she knows everything?
I am not going to go anywhere, it is fine if you don't agree with my T or with me in the way I am handling what he did to me, I have heard you loud and clear that you don't, but I am here for support.
Posted by HappyChaiTea on February 16, 2009, at 4:05:14
In reply to Re: To Clarify » jammerlich, posted by HappyChaiTea on February 15, 2009, at 22:24:53
Well I would like to thank you Jammer for your comments, it has given me even more strength and more resolve for fighting against unethical T's. Seems like a calling for me. Using something bad that has happened to me, turning it into something positive for society and supporting those who have been victims is a good thing.
I have heard too many stories of those harmed by unethical T's, one's who do not follow the guidelines that they swear to uphold as an oath.
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