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Posted by muffled on April 30, 2008, at 15:28:43
WTF eh?
Gonna do a FREE lol! 20 min interview in a coupla weeks to check out new T.
Reckon, if she OK, then I go a few times, get some info, then I DONE w/T.
How bout THAT.
HA!
M
Posted by rskontos on April 30, 2008, at 17:17:43
In reply to Mebbe I switch T's, posted by muffled on April 30, 2008, at 15:28:43
If that is best then you go girl.
I am thinking to be done with t all together :)
maybe i be my own t for a while.
Too many obstacles to this one right now.
rsk
Posted by LadyBug on April 30, 2008, at 19:03:08
In reply to Mebbe I switch T's, posted by muffled on April 30, 2008, at 15:28:43
You are brave Muffled. I understand if things aren't working with your current T and you want to move on it is certainly your choice.
I'm with rsk, I'm thinking about being done with therapy all together.
But I know I have to see my T again for whatever comes next. Closure? For my sake, not hers. I'm mixed up too.
I wish you well in your decision. I trust that you will do what's best for yourself just as I will.
LadyBug
Posted by Poet on April 30, 2008, at 19:17:51
In reply to Mebbe I switch T's, posted by muffled on April 30, 2008, at 15:28:43
Hi Muffled,
For free I say why not? Plus you might click with her. Wow, I am being optimistic, something must really be wrong with me today.
Poet
Posted by obsidian on April 30, 2008, at 21:35:27
In reply to Mebbe I switch T's, posted by muffled on April 30, 2008, at 15:28:43
everything ok muffly?
-sidacurious
Posted by 10derHeart on April 30, 2008, at 23:00:46
In reply to Mebbe I switch T's, posted by muffled on April 30, 2008, at 15:28:43
Are you still seeing your old T., muffy? Hope nothing went wrong there, she seemed really good for you in many ways. But maybe I remember you saying maybe she couldn't really help you in the ways you really need now?
Hope you are pretty much okay. Sometimes it is the right time for difficult therapy, and sometimes, maybe not so much, I think.
Posted by raisinb on May 1, 2008, at 8:30:25
In reply to Mebbe I switch T's, posted by muffled on April 30, 2008, at 15:28:43
I wish you well with it Muffled, that takes a lot of courage.
What happened with your other T? You have been with her a long time, I think, with a lot of closeness? I am sorry if things aren't working. That always, always sucks :(
Posted by Dinah on May 1, 2008, at 9:26:58
In reply to Mebbe I switch T's, posted by muffled on April 30, 2008, at 15:28:43
I know it's always been a push/pull with her. She's been helpful as a consistent stable source of support who refuses to abandon or stop caring about you. Yet she is lacking in some of the skills you feel you need in a therapist. And her traveling undercuts the stability, however little she intends that. I admit her traveling would be an issue with me, if my therapist were doing it. I'd have to weigh rewards and costs very closely.
Posted by rskontos on May 1, 2008, at 11:09:38
In reply to Re: Mebbe I switch T's » muffled, posted by Dinah on May 1, 2008, at 9:26:58
Muffled, I have been thinking and maybe you have been too. Maybe I am way off. I had a dream last night or this morning about two of me's. I think you can understand this. How there are two basic two that the rest split off from. This is hard to explain but I will try. It is my basic reasoning I think why therapy isn't working. And I have tried to explain it to doc but he isn't buying it I guess, I get little feedback. Anyway, here goes. The two mes, one is from the rational side of my brain, the other from the emotional side. They are so different. When I dissociate, which I do so much I get stuck on the side with no feelings. Not the emotional side. There I remain for a long time until something snaps to bring me back to the emotional side, usually anger as I think it is the most easily accessed. I have a hard time handling it so an inner steps in, so many over the years have been forged to deal with the abuse etc that they step in quickly, and a cycle is set. I don't really feel the emotions too much and my fragments get more fragmented. It makes it really hard to handle relationships of any kind as the emotions with most are up and down. But at this point my ups and downs are mostly gone. I am flat. I sometimes wish I could find a drug that would give me mania. I think it would be nice to be up for some length of time. I am not sure any therapy would help.
I think my therapist helped for a time because I was in crisis. I am not now. And my inners don't want to dig deeper. They are quiet except when things go to deep. It is different now. THings changed but it is hard to describe. Maybe this makes sense to you. Maybe it doesn't.
All I know is deep down I don't think I can do anything further with therapy right now. Maybe something will change. And it isn't I am not trying I don't think understanding is truly there from the therapist's side. And I lack the words to describe it fully.
I don't know what happened between you and yours. But I know you struggle. Maybe our struggles are similar maybe not. I am not depressed per se just really deeply sadden but I can't say why. Maybe this t of mine just doesn't push when he should. I don't know anymore. I just know I told him I don't know how to change things and he changed the subject to a lite topic. And that made me mad.
I am thinking sometimes change is good. But then again wtf do I know.
rsk
Posted by muffled on May 1, 2008, at 17:57:26
In reply to Re: Mebbe I switch T's/second thoughts, posted by rskontos on May 1, 2008, at 11:09:38
Posted by muffled on May 1, 2008, at 22:42:25
In reply to Re: Mebbe I switch T's/second thoughts, posted by rskontos on May 1, 2008, at 11:09:38
Rsk, I think T's got what they got, and when you got all you can from them, and it seems there's no more that they can offer, or that you are not willing to go any further, then it is time to quit.
Maybe just for awhile. Maybe forever. maybe for 5 yrs, who knows.
Or, maybe it time for a change.
I think it time for a change. My T does not have more info for me. She can offer support, but I can't afford to forever spend $$ for support. I think in the end I would get frustrated by her, and she will not work with a client unless there is progress happening anyways.
I think going to T has just been stressing me more.
I read on onternet, bout a person who got real issues, worse than me, but she gonna take a break from T cuz it too much, too fast. She gotta have a break to get it together again......
I can understand this.
I dunno where you at exactly Rsk(sorry), I been only intermittantly on the boards.
I hope your keeping reasonably ok.
Post when you decide what you gonna do bout T OK?
Thanks for reply and thots.
M
Posted by muffled on May 1, 2008, at 22:50:25
In reply to Re: Mebbe I switch T's » muffled, posted by LadyBug on April 30, 2008, at 19:03:08
> You are brave Muffled. I understand if things aren't working with your current T and you want to move on it is certainly your choice.
*Not so brave...beleive me! But frustrated, cuz i know I goto change, and I don't wanto, but I goto or I think it will get nasty cuz there has to be a change and we both know it. T trying to be so gentle hinting to me eg "I won't be the slightest bit hurt if you want to go to the other T", "I can't meet all your T needs" etc etc
> I'm with rsk, I'm thinking about being done with therapy all together.
*maybe done, maybe done for now, maybe time for a change....
> But I know I have to see my T again for whatever comes next. Closure? For my sake, not hers. I'm mixed up too.*sigh, not so easy, specially when its been a long time, the rut is deep then, the connection long...
Yeah, reckon closure is good. Better to end on a resolved note, or if not end, then pause...
If you still need T, a new T could offer a fresh perpective. Proly a good thing.> I wish you well in your decision. I trust that you will do what's best for yourself just as I will.
* I I try whats best. Hope you can to LB, you been thru some tough times, but you show strength.
Take good care,
M
Posted by muffled on May 1, 2008, at 22:52:04
In reply to Re: Mebbe I switch T's » muffled, posted by Poet on April 30, 2008, at 19:17:51
> Hi Muffled,
>
> For free I say why not? Plus you might click with her. Wow, I am being optimistic, something must really be wrong with me today.
>
> Poet*Poet, you makin me smile again!!!! Always love to see your posts. Yup, free is good! and I am hopeful she may have some usefulness.
Take care,
M
Posted by muffled on May 1, 2008, at 22:52:56
In reply to Re: Mebbe I switch T's » muffled, posted by obsidian on April 30, 2008, at 21:35:27
Posted by muffled on May 1, 2008, at 22:54:06
In reply to yup OK, just kinda weaving around all over?!!!! (nm) » obsidian, posted by muffled on May 1, 2008, at 22:52:56
Posted by muffled on May 1, 2008, at 22:58:09
In reply to Re: Mebbe I switch T's » muffled, posted by 10derHeart on April 30, 2008, at 23:00:46
> Are you still seeing your old T., muffy? Hope nothing went wrong there, she seemed really good for you in many ways. But maybe I remember you saying maybe she couldn't really help you in the ways you really need now?
*Old T away this week. Next week I not go, cuz following week I goto FREE!! 20 min session w/new T. New T don't like client to goto more than 1 T. Makes sense to me.
> Hope you are pretty much okay. Sometimes it is the right time for difficult therapy, and sometimes, maybe not so much, I think.
*I think you are EXACTLY right 10der. I just want some info from the DD T bout a coupla things, and then I am done. I take (hopefully) a long long break from T and just work on apllying what I have learned....
This is my theory anyways....!!!!
Thx for the post, you take care.
M
Posted by muffled on May 1, 2008, at 23:00:56
In reply to Re: Mebbe I switch T's » muffled, posted by raisinb on May 1, 2008, at 8:30:25
> I wish you well with it Muffled, that takes a lot of courage.
>
> What happened with your other T? You have been with her a long time, I think, with a lot of closeness? I am sorry if things aren't working. That always, always sucks :(* We just done all we could do Raisinb. My T don't know what to do with my other issues. She don't have any training that way, so I goto move on. She taught me TONS and TONS, and she broke the ice that I am able to speak at all. But we are done.
Yeah....it sucks :-(
Thx,
Take care,
M
Posted by muffled on May 1, 2008, at 23:09:45
In reply to Re: Mebbe I switch T's » muffled, posted by Dinah on May 1, 2008, at 9:26:58
> I know it's always been a push/pull with her. She's been helpful as a consistent stable source of support who refuses to abandon or stop caring about you. Yet she is lacking in some of the skills you feel you need in a therapist. And her traveling undercuts the stability, however little she intends that. I admit her traveling would be an issue with me, if my therapist were doing it. I'd have to weigh rewards and costs very closely.
*LOVE your first sentence Dinah :-) LOVE it. It is so true. Thanks for that.
Yes, she is lacking and has said so herself. She is a good T, but I have issues that she doesn't know how to deal with. I think we have gone as far as we can. She
LOL, she going away for AT LEAST 6 weeks this fall!!!!
We have done MUCH good work, it astounds me how much we have accomplished.
But its time to move on.
I think we both getting frustrated.
So this is a good thing.
Your very wise and good with words dinah.
Take care you :-)
M
Posted by Happyflower on May 2, 2008, at 9:56:42
In reply to Re: Mebbe I switch T's/second thoughts, posted by muffled on May 1, 2008, at 22:42:25
I actually agree with you very much on this. You have been with her for a long time and if you got all out of the relationship that you can where it is still helping you, than it is time to quit or go to another T. It can make a huge difference, it did with me. Now I am so glad I switched.
But you do what you need to do for you Muffy.
Posted by muffled on May 2, 2008, at 11:36:26
In reply to Re: Mebbe I switch T's/second thoughts » muffled, posted by Happyflower on May 2, 2008, at 9:56:42
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