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Posted by littleone on February 2, 2005, at 15:12:18
I was just thinking of you. Hadn't seen your name for a couple of days and know you're in a bad place at the moment. Guess I just wanted to send you some warm thoughts.
Posted by ghost on February 2, 2005, at 21:16:57
In reply to Ghost, posted by littleone on February 2, 2005, at 15:12:18
your post meant a lot to me. thanks.
Posted by ghost on February 2, 2005, at 21:20:54
In reply to Ghost, posted by littleone on February 2, 2005, at 15:12:18
she's nice and i like her, but i feel like she's going to ditch me at some point, and i'd rather beat her to it. maybe that's stupid and irrational.
i'm sorry i never "tried out" other T's before i settled on this one. i just went to her appt and have been going ever since. she's just the first one who called me back.
i wish she'd break out the crayons more. i like to color.
she did tell me next time i felt bad that i should call her. of course, i can never get the words out (out loud) when i need to say them, but it was a nice thought.
i'm so tired. i wish i could sleep better.
Posted by fallsfall on February 2, 2005, at 21:41:17
In reply to i feel like dumping my T, posted by ghost on February 2, 2005, at 21:20:54
> she's nice and i like her, but i feel like she's going to ditch me at some point, and i'd rather beat her to it. maybe that's stupid and irrational.
*** I've heard this before from other people. So it doesn't sound so strange to me. Can you talk to her about this? Do you know why you are afraid that she will ditch you?
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> i'm sorry i never "tried out" other T's before i settled on this one. i just went to her appt and have been going ever since. she's just the first one who called me back.
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*** Interviewing therapists can be important, but it is a lot of work. How long have you been seeing her? How does she compare to previous therapists you have had?> i wish she'd break out the crayons more. i like to color.
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*** Did she let you color before? I love art therapy kinds of things. A new therapist moved into the office next to my therapist - she has a Sand Table - her sign says she does Sand Therapy. I want to go do Sand Therapy!> she did tell me next time i felt bad that i should call her. of course, i can never get the words out (out loud) when i need to say them, but it was a nice thought.
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*** That is a nice thought. Sometimes it takes some practice to be able to get the words to come out. Hopefully you will start to feel comfortable enough with her so you can do that. In the meantime, you can practice typing them to us... I know that there are sometimes when I really have to force myself to say things - I know that my therapist can't help me unless he knows certain things, so I force them out. But it is hard. Can you tell her that it is hard for you to talk when things are rough? Maybe you can figure out a way together to make it easier.
> i'm so tired. i wish i could sleep better.What is disturbing your sleep? Is it hard to get to sleep, to stay asleep, or are you waking up early, or do you not feel rested after you sleep? Or are you getting lots of sleep and still feeling tired?
Do you know what prompted this "down"? Were there any particular things happening that triggered it?
EAT ICE CREAM
(love, falls)
Posted by gardenergirl on February 2, 2005, at 21:56:06
In reply to Re: i feel like dumping my T » ghost, posted by fallsfall on February 2, 2005, at 21:41:17
Posted by daisym on February 2, 2005, at 23:42:11
In reply to i feel like dumping my T, posted by ghost on February 2, 2005, at 21:20:54
Ghost,
Talk to someone about the not sleeping. I finally did and got some sleep meds. It has really helped.
I agree with Falls. Try to force things out, she can't help you if she doesn't know how badly you are hurting.
Your fear about being dumped ISN'T stupid...it is my biggest fear, even after all this time. Talking about it over and over and over again is the only thing that helps. I even make him promise to be there the next time...and he always does.
btw, I like Cream of Wheat better than ice cream. Tonight it is cinnamon rolls. Hey, try them all!
Hugs,
Daisy
Posted by ghost on February 3, 2005, at 13:44:02
In reply to Re: i feel like dumping my T » ghost, posted by fallsfall on February 2, 2005, at 21:41:17
> *** I've heard this before from other people. So it doesn't sound so strange to me. Can you talk to her about this? Do you know why you are afraid that she will ditch you?
i probably could talk to her about it, but i feel silly.
> *** Interviewing therapists can be important, but it is a lot of work. How long have you been seeing her? How does she compare to previous therapists you have had?she's the best one. the one i had briefly in lincoln before i left was super nice but she was a student and couldn't help me. this woman has more experience and is more intuitive. ive been seeing her since the beginning of december, i think. so two months.
> *** Did she let you color before? I love art therapy kinds of things. A new therapist moved into the office next to my therapist - she has a Sand Table - her sign says she does Sand Therapy. I want to go do Sand Therapy!my therapist has a sand tray! it's fun. she has crayons and pastels and paper. i got to do a pastel drawing once. it was fun. and we learned a lot.
> *** That is a nice thought. Sometimes it takes some practice to be able to get the words to come out. Hopefully you will start to feel comfortable enough with her so you can do that. In the meantime, you can practice typing them to us... I know that there are sometimes when I really have to force myself to say things - I know that my therapist can't help me unless he knows certain things, so I force them out. But it is hard. Can you tell her that it is hard for you to talk when things are rough? Maybe you can figure out a way together to make it easier.she knows i can't verbalize things very well. i think i talk to her easier cuz she's a stranger, really. i can always run away if i think she knows too much. she has suggestions, but i've never been able to use them. i guess i have to practice or something.
> What is disturbing your sleep? Is it hard to get to sleep, to stay asleep, or are you waking up early, or do you not feel rested after you sleep? Or are you getting lots of sleep and still feeling tired?i can fall asleep easily but wake up very easily and can't fall back to sleep. i have trazodone but they don't help much. i think they make me snore more, which just irritates my gf, and that makes matters worse so i don't want to take them. when i'm really tired i do, though. sometimes they work.
> EAT ICE CREAMmaybe i'll go home and show a pint of tofutti who's boss....
Posted by ghost on February 3, 2005, at 13:45:06
In reply to Re: i feel like dumping my T, posted by daisym on February 2, 2005, at 23:42:11
> Your fear about being dumped ISN'T stupid...it is my biggest fear, even after all this time. Talking about it over and over and over again is the only thing that helps. I even make him promise to be there the next time...and he always does.
i'm glad i'm not alone....
> btw, I like Cream of Wheat better than ice cream. Tonight it is cinnamon rolls. Hey, try them all!heh. i just cant get that excited about cream of wheat...
Posted by littleone on February 3, 2005, at 20:58:15
In reply to Re: i feel like dumping my T, posted by ghost on February 3, 2005, at 13:44:02
Wow, your T sounds so cool.
I have *a lot* of trouble talking in my sessions and always have to write heaps to my T. We've been playing cards for the last few months and I find it a little easier to talk if I can focus on the cards instead of on me or him or the carpet or whatever.
I think I'd much rather use a sandtray or crayons or pastels :) I need to think less and feel more.
How about you bring a slip of paper with you to your next session just saying "pastels" or "crayons". I'm sure your T will understand and be accommodating.
I always think my T wishes I'd never rocked up on his doorstep. I have this mental image of him looking in his diary in the morning, seeing my name there and letting out a great big *sigh*. Then I always think that he wants to ditch me, but he can't really because that would just reinforce my beliefs that people don't like me, etc. So he's forced to endure me.
Occasionally I can see that this isn't true. That it's just my head living up to my beliefs. But not often.
Is the same sort of thing happening to you do you think? That you have a certain belief and your head twists things round to prove the belief?
> i think i talk to her easier cuz she's a stranger, really. i can always run away if i think she knows too much.
Please try to stick with her as long as you can. If running away is a pattern for you, it's important to try and stay and work things out and develop a new pattern. Having said that, I do understand where you're coming from. It feels very threatening to stay.
>she has suggestions, but i've never been able to use them. i guess i have to practice or something.
My T often suggests things to problems I'm having. Usually I can see that his suggestions are a good idea, but blowed if I'm gonna do them. Yikes!! Sometimes I'll let the suggestion perculate for a month or two in my head before I even think about maybe possibly trying it.
But even the times there's no way I could follow through on his suggestion, I still think it's good to soak it in and let my mind absorb it. Just think about it. I think that when I do this with enough suggestions, my head gets a little more comfortable with his ideas. Then I need to get comfortable thinking about doing them. Then I guess I'd have to seriously consider doing them. And so on. Baby steps. Jeez, sometimes I think I'm taking ant steps.
> maybe i'll go home and show a pint of tofutti who's boss....
I had to laugh at this! Thanks for my chuckles. Not that I know what tofutti is. A tofu product??? Somehow that doesn't quite compare to ice cream or chocolate :)
And Daisy, what on earth is Cream of Wheat??? Sounds like some sort of porridge or maybe some soggy Weetbix. Give me mud cake any day!
Posted by ghost on February 4, 2005, at 17:09:54
In reply to Re: i feel like dumping my T » ghost, posted by littleone on February 3, 2005, at 20:58:15
> Wow, your T sounds so cool.
i think it helps that she councils a lot of children. :)
> I have *a lot* of trouble talking in my sessions and always have to write heaps to my T. We've been playing cards for the last few months and I find it a little easier to talk if I can focus on the cards instead of on me or him or the carpet or whatever.
playing cards is SUCH a good idea! i can see how that would work. i talked a lot when i was coloring.
> How about you bring a slip of paper with you to your next session just saying "pastels" or "crayons". I'm sure your T will understand and be accommodating.
this is a good idea. i'll have to think about my mood before i walk in.
> Is the same sort of thing happening to you do you think? That you have a certain belief and your head twists things round to prove the belief?i do think this is it. one little bad event and it's the end of the world to me. i'm aware of it. just can't seem to fix it..
> Please try to stick with her as long as you can. If running away is a pattern for you, it's important to try and stay and work things out and develop a new pattern. Having said that, I do understand where you're coming from. It feels very threatening to stay.yeah, this is a pattern all right....
> My T often suggests things to problems I'm having. Usually I can see that his suggestions are a good idea, but blowed if I'm gonna do them. Yikes!! Sometimes I'll let the suggestion perculate for a month or two in my head before I even think about maybe possibly trying it.that's *exactly* it.
ant steps!
> I had to laugh at this! Thanks for my chuckles. Not that I know what tofutti is. A tofu product??? Somehow that doesn't quite compare to ice cream or chocolate :)
tofutti is soy ice cream made with tofu :) it's actually super good. even if you dont like tofu.
> And Daisy, what on earth is Cream of Wheat??? Sounds like some sort of porridge or maybe some soggy Weetbix. Give me mud cake any day!
heh. cream of wheat is flavorless hot cereal :)
mmm... mud cake.
Posted by Daisym on February 4, 2005, at 17:45:28
In reply to Re: i feel like dumping my T » ghost, posted by littleone on February 3, 2005, at 20:58:15
>>>>And Daisy, what on earth is Cream of Wheat??? Sounds like some sort of porridge or maybe some soggy Weetbix. Give me mud cake any day!
It is hot cereal - you add butter and sugar and it is comfort food. Especially with tea. Some people lace it with chocolate.
Not that I don't like mud cake...
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