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Posted by Susan47 on August 20, 2004, at 21:05:02
I know this probably is, but betcha Dr. Bob's crew loves this kind of thing, watch Susan fall apart and pull herself back together again, fall apart... ack. I refuse to lose it. I just need this so badly right now.
Posted by mair on August 20, 2004, at 22:05:50
In reply to Paranoid, but, posted by Susan47 on August 20, 2004, at 21:05:02
I don't know about you, but it's always been amazing to me how I can vascillate, in a very short period of time, between thinking I can't live with myself any more, to busily making plans for something I'm going to do tomorrow.
Was it Thoreau or Emerson who said that a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. Maybe I don't want a foolish consistency, but even a little consistency would be great - as long as it's of the positive variety, of course.
Not to worry - there's nothing like an on-the-board meltdown to make the rest of us stop obsessing about rotten stuff - look at yourself as doing us a favor. (-;
Mair
Posted by Susan47 on August 20, 2004, at 23:02:09
In reply to Re: Paranoid, but » Susan47, posted by mair on August 20, 2004, at 22:05:50
Mair, If I weren't having an on-the-board meltdown, your words would melt me. You're lovely.
Posted by Dinah on August 20, 2004, at 23:10:12
In reply to Re: Paranoid, but » mair, posted by Susan47 on August 20, 2004, at 23:02:09
Susan, if it would make you feel any better, you can do a search for my on-board meltdowns. (I don't think I can bear to look them up for you, even to make you feel better.) I have humiliated myself as much as a person can humiliate themselves, yet am welcomed back warmly.
It's a great bunch of people here, who understand that these things happen.
Posted by Susan47 on August 20, 2004, at 23:13:38
In reply to Re: Paranoid, but » Susan47, posted by Dinah on August 20, 2004, at 23:10:12
People have been melting down since I came to this board a couple of weeks ago I think, can't remember; but in any case I know it isn't new it's just hard that it's me darn it. I keep saying "Ack"... maybe I want to choke myself. Ack. Thanks.
Posted by JenStar on August 20, 2004, at 23:27:07
In reply to Paranoid, but, posted by Susan47 on August 20, 2004, at 21:05:02
hi Susan,
I suppose from an 'objective observer' standpoint Dr. Bob & crew would have to be interested in the ebbtides of our written psyches and therefore MUST love to watch our ups and downs.But many of us here care about you as a person, too -- not just a statistic or a "web case study" to observe!
(Although: Dr. Bob seems like a decent guy; even though he can't get to know each of us personally, I'm sure there's more to it than just watching with distant impersonal interest. I'm willing to bet you matter more than you think!)
**Sidenote: I don't know how many people comprise "Dr. Bob" -- is it really only one man, or mostly one man plus some help from grad students /assistants/etc? **
Anyway, don't be paranoid...you're interesting on MANY levels -- the personal as well as the 'lab rat'!
Jen (I'm a Lab Rat) Star
PS - If I'm going to be a lab rat, I want to be one of those cute ones that have lots of fur and look more like guinea pigs than actual New York City sewer rats. I also want a pretty soft coat, gentle eyes and whiskers, and a cute tail! And maybe a pink collar with a little pink bell. And boots for wintertime.
(OK...enough now...must stop with the rat talk!!)
Posted by AuntieMel on August 21, 2004, at 0:33:11
In reply to Paranoid, but, posted by Susan47 on August 20, 2004, at 21:05:02
Well, you know, somethimes a girl just has to wallow in self pity. It's good for the soul. Kind of a good pore cleansing of the mind. Highly recommended.
I do it myself as often as I can. It's a lot easier to crawl up if there is a down to crawl up from. Now you can work up a good head of steam to get further up this time.
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.....
Posted by gardenergirl on August 21, 2004, at 7:33:41
In reply to Re: Paranoid, but » Susan47, posted by AuntieMel on August 21, 2004, at 0:33:11
> Well, you know, somethimes a girl just has to wallow in self pity. It's good for the soul. Kind of a good pore cleansing of the mind. Highly recommended.
>
> I do it myself as often as I can. It's a lot easier to crawl up if there is a down to crawl up from. Now you can work up a good head of steam to get further up this time.
>
> I think I can, I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.....You know, I can wallow at times, too. I never thought of it this way, although I did somehow think it helped. Thanks for reframing it!
gg
Posted by vwoolf on August 21, 2004, at 10:00:39
In reply to Paranoid, but, posted by Susan47 on August 20, 2004, at 21:05:02
Dr Bob'll probably hate me for saying this, but a couple of weeks ago, when I was feeling really bleak, I started writing to the Samaritans. I just didn't feel safe enough on this board - too vulnerable. With the Samaritans I could go into as much gory intimate detail as I liked without any fear of criticism, and they invariably came back with comfort and non-judgemental support. Of course it is not an open board like this with all the hustle and bustle of a busy place. There it is your individual email to the Samaritans that gets picked up and replied to by one of their trained counsellors. They do take a few hours to get back to you, but I found them to be really helpful for a crisis. You can find them at www.samaritans.org
Take care Susan. Be gentle on yourself.
Posted by Susan47 on August 21, 2004, at 10:35:21
In reply to Re: Paranoid, but » Susan47, posted by JenStar on August 20, 2004, at 23:27:07
Your lab rat vision is so cute, I love it. I know I'm a lab rat and actually I kind of like that because what's the point of living if it isn't to help, and I figure I'm doing something good by being fairly public about the vagaries of my psyche. So, yes, I like your viewpoint, it's just hard to swallow when I'm feeling really vulnerable...?
I realize I could get an education, though, and help in that way myself. Ah. I'm just babbling. I love going to school.
Posted by Susan47 on August 21, 2004, at 10:38:26
In reply to Re: Paranoid, but, posted by vwoolf on August 21, 2004, at 10:00:39
I like that idea much better than using the phone. Thank you.
Posted by Raindancer on August 21, 2004, at 14:41:38
In reply to Re: Paranoid, but » Susan47, posted by AuntieMel on August 21, 2004, at 0:33:11
Auntie Mel, you're great!! "It's easier to crawl up when there's a down to crawl up from." You've made my day and probably a lot more. Thanks! Bless you.
Raindancer
Posted by shortelise on August 21, 2004, at 21:27:38
In reply to Re: Paranoid, but » Susan47, posted by JenStar on August 20, 2004, at 23:27:07
Ok, help me here, are we being 'observed'? Is that the purpose of this board? Are we lab rats?
I'd like to be black, please, with sleek black fur that shines blue black. With those wonderful beady little rat eyes that look back with such rat intelligence.
But please, no hideous skinny tail. UGH! I'm a ... whaddya call it ... I'm a MANX rat.
Seriously, are we part of someone's studies?
ShortE
Posted by Susan47 on August 21, 2004, at 22:30:25
In reply to whoa, lab rats???, posted by shortelise on August 21, 2004, at 21:27:38
I'm too lazy to look it up but I believe it does say that somewhere. Does that bother you though?
Posted by AuntieMel on August 22, 2004, at 0:10:51
In reply to whoa, lab rats???, posted by shortelise on August 21, 2004, at 21:27:38
Isn't a rat with no tail called a hamster?
I wouldn't call us lab rats, though. Dr. Bob does reserve the right to use some info, but not names or identifying information. It should have been on one of the forms you filled in when registering.
If I thought it was a problem, you can be sure I wouldn't be here.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 22, 2004, at 1:01:20
In reply to Re: Paranoid, but, posted by vwoolf on August 21, 2004, at 10:00:39
> Dr Bob'll probably hate me for saying this, but a couple of weeks ago, when I was feeling really bleak, I started writing to the Samaritans... I found them to be really helpful for a crisis. You can find them at http://www.samaritans.org
I think it's great that you were able to find some help, and that you're letting others know about a resource. :-)
Bob
Posted by JenStar on August 24, 2004, at 1:05:21
In reply to whoa, lab rats???, posted by shortelise on August 21, 2004, at 21:27:38
Ooohh, a manx rat sounds like a good idea! I could also deal with a lemur tail - from a ringtailed lemur.
JenStar
Posted by Camille Dumont on August 24, 2004, at 8:52:23
In reply to Re: whoa, lab rats??? » shortelise, posted by AuntieMel on August 22, 2004, at 0:10:51
> Isn't a rat with no tail called a hamster?
>
> I wouldn't call us lab rats, though. Dr. Bob does reserve the right to use some info, but not names or identifying information. It should have been on one of the forms you filled in when registering.
>
> If I thought it was a problem, you can be sure I wouldn't be here.Ok, useless information time : manx rats are rats with a genetic mutation that give them either no tail at all or a little stub of flesh or a little bit of tail like a hamster but they are still rattus norvegicus like their tailed brothers.
Its a rather hard type of rat to breed because you can't breed a manx female to a manx male as most manx females have a hard time giving birth due to their hip bones I think ... so you have to breed a manx male with a standard female which means you only get a few manx rats afterwards.
Manx rats are more sensitive to heat and cold than their tailed brothers because a rat regulates the blood flow through its tail to change its body temp ... sort of like those rabbits in the desert that have huge ears ... the blood passes through them and thus cools faster.
And there you have it, you many now forget all about manx rats now ;P
Oh and I'd like to be a blazed agouti dumbo please :P
Posted by shortelise on August 24, 2004, at 12:33:28
In reply to Re: whoa, lab rats???, posted by Camille Dumont on August 24, 2004, at 8:52:23
Thank you for the lesson in rats.
I think I would still choose to be a Manx rat - would these be rats from the Isle of Man? Then I'd get to talk funny too.
ShortE
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