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Posted by deirdrehbrt on March 10, 2006, at 20:51:06
Some interesting, some humorous, and some which soft of frighten me, but I don't think that there is anything here really uncivil. Just direct quotes. The first one is the one that really bothered me, as I'm a Pagan / Witch.
1. Religious freedom and tolerance is a protected right. I am committed to the First Amendment principles of religious freedom, tolerance, and diversity.
Whether Mormon, Methodist, Jewish, or Muslim, Americans should be able to participate in their constitutional free exercise of religion.
I do not think witchcraft is a religion, and I do not think it is in any way appropriate for the U.S. military to promote it.2. One of the interesting initiatives we've taken in Washington, D.C., is we've got these vampire-busting devices. A vampire is a -- a cell deal you can plug in the wall to charge your cell phone.
3.I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe -- I believe what I believe is right.4. To those of you who received honors, awards and distinctions, I say, well done. And to the C students, I say to you: you, too, can be president of the United States.
5. We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease.6. It's very important for folks to understand that when there's more trade, there's more commerce.
7. It would be helpful if we opened up ANWR [Arctic National Wildlife Refuge]. I think it's a mistake not to. And I would urge you all to travel up there and take a look at it, and you can make the determination as to how beautiful that country is.
8. You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.9. I appreciate that question because I, in the state of Texas, had heard a lot of discussion about a faith-based initiative eroding the important bridge between church and state.
10. I'm hopeful. I know there is a lot of ambition in Washington, obviously. But I hope the ambitious realize that they are more likely to succeed with success as opposed to failure.11. God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them.
Posted by tealady on March 11, 2006, at 1:40:40
In reply to 11 random quotes from the president...., posted by deirdrehbrt on March 10, 2006, at 20:51:06
> Some interesting, some humorous, and some which soft of frighten me, but I don't think that there is anything here really uncivil. Just direct quotes. The first one is the one that really bothered me, as I'm a Pagan / Witch.
>Hi Dee,
I don't know anything much about witchcraft, although it's different enough to create a spark of interest in me. I was wondering do you have to be female or are there male witaches too..or do warlocks have different circles and stuff? I've only heard of females?
LOL .. thanks for the laugh with the quotes
Actually I think Bush is improving and beginning to see(at least in part)the consequences of what has been happening. That's way better than I thought he could be before he was originally elected, and he does appears to be learning from past mistakes? Do you think so too?
I think it's a pity he wasn't at least where he is now before he was first elected.. but I think maybe there is hope.
I liked his stance on the Dubai company for instance, but he still didn't have the strength of leadership to get his point accepted and understood and carried thru, maybe?
Anyway I don't exactly follow US politics at all. I try and avoid it as much as possible in the past few years (since Bush was elected stangely enough), so I won't comment any more.
Posted by deirdrehbrt on March 11, 2006, at 7:09:08
In reply to Re: 11 random quotes from the president.... » deirdrehbrt, posted by tealady on March 11, 2006, at 1:40:40
Tealady,
No restrictions on gender for being a Witch.As far as it being different, Neo-Paganism is about the 19th most popular religion world-wide. Evn more popular than Unitarian-Universalism and Scientology.
We don't have paid clergy or churches. We worship in nature, in our homes, etc. We don't collect money from followers. There is no central governing authority, no 'revealed scripture'.
Because of the way we worship, and what's been explained above, and becasue lots of people are frightened by thier own definition of the words "Witch, and Pagan", it's difficult to be taken seriously as a religion, but fortunately things are beginning to change. The VA is finally looking at allowing our religious emblem (the pentacle) to be placed on gravestones. Still, with comments like the one from the President, it's obvious that we have work to do.
If you want to learn more about Neo-Paganism and Witchcraft / Wicca you can go to http://www.witchvox.com.
As far as Dubai, I wouldn't have had a problem with Bush taking a stand. That's his job. What I had a problem with was the apparent 'sneaking through' of the deal; the fact that none in congress or the public knew anything about it, nor had the opportunity for comment before the deal was approved.
Could that company have been secure? Would they have looked out for our interests? Quite possibly, but the people who had to be satisfied never had the chance to ask the questions and get the answers. Such is life.
Whatever happens, we've still some time left with this president. I hope that those who are criticizing today get out and vote next election. Complaining after the fact isn't enough. We need to make our voices heard before the damage is done.
--Dee
Posted by Declan on March 12, 2006, at 18:41:36
In reply to Re: 11 random quotes from the president...., posted by deirdrehbrt on March 11, 2006, at 7:09:08
He just reminds me of our Premier in the 70's (Bjelke Petersen). I'm not taken in by these folksy attempts to appear silly. They strengthen his support in the heartland at no other cost. I think he's sharp as a whip (really I do), but I doubt that he is so well informed. I wonder who is well informed about the middle east? Maybe the Iranians? Have I been offensive, maybe I have, maybe we shouldn't mention Iran?
Declan
Posted by deirdrehbrt on March 12, 2006, at 21:30:35
In reply to Re: 11 random quotes from the president...., posted by Declan on March 12, 2006, at 18:41:36
I don't think mentioning Iran is uncivil. I try not to speculate about motive though.
I think that if I tried to expound on the statements I posted, I could be treading on thin ice (and where I live, the ice is getting thin. If people haven't gotten their Ice fishin huts in yet, they could be getting in trouble)
I'll let the president speak for himself, and leave the interpretation to others.
Blessings,
--Dee
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