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Posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 9:53:50
In reply to Starting weight 186 Today's Weight 204, posted by Dinah on August 21, 2007, at 12:32:48
:)
I know, I know. Water weight or scale variations.
But I really really have been good.
(Helped by the fact that the food that's good for me suddenly tastes good, and the food that's not good for me makes me feel slightly ill.)
Posted by ClearSkies on August 25, 2007, at 17:02:15
In reply to Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 9:53:50
> :)
:-) That is great!
>
> I know, I know. Water weight or scale variations.
>
> But I really really have been good.
>
> (Helped by the fact that the food that's good for me suddenly tastes good, and the food that's not good for me makes me feel slightly ill.)I've noticed that since I started taking Remeron that food doesn't generally taste as good as it used to. And I have a pretty wicked sweet tooth, which my T says makes perfect sense, since the medication is keeping my energy level rather low. Sugar = instant energy. If only I could rely on some caffeine to get me going and then switch it off before it turns me into a shaky meanie. But I can't find that "off" switch!!!
I guess there's some different balance I'm striving to find and just haven't yet.
One who wants it all,
ClearSkies
Posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 20:59:24
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by ClearSkies on August 25, 2007, at 17:02:15
I ended up sleeping through my only two tries at Remeron. :)
I told my husband today that maybe my body's taste was changing because my body's needs changed.
But that leaves me wondering what my body was looking for in batter fried shrimp and snowballs.
I feel fat this evening, although I didn't eat any more today than I've been eating.
I'm sorry you can't take caffeine. I've been living on ice tea and diet coke.
The change in my tastes and lack of appetite coincided with the enormous consumption of green tea. Maybe green tea is an appetite suppressant.
Posted by Phillipa on August 25, 2007, at 22:02:35
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » ClearSkies, posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 20:59:24
Dinah that's what I drink now iced green tea . And never hungry I wonder if that correct? Maybe a huge discovery? Green tea is good for you too not much caffeine. Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 22:12:05
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on August 25, 2007, at 22:02:35
Oh, I hope it has enough to keep me awake!
But yes, it may be a coincidence, but the lack of appetite definitely came when i started with the tea. It would be nice if there was a direct correlation wouldn't it?
Posted by Phillipa on August 25, 2007, at 23:00:55
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Phillipa, posted by Dinah on August 25, 2007, at 22:12:05
Definitely. As there are antioxidants in it too. And just maybe(is it you that takes providgil? very likely I'm mistaken if so my apologies)you wouldn't need as much of it and less money spent unless your're insurance covers it. Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on October 8, 2007, at 8:29:39
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on August 25, 2007, at 23:00:55
Very discouraging. I'm back up again, and I really see no reason why.
I've been having trouble with heartburn and that's limited what I can eat a lot. I guess the fact that most of what feels ok to eat is breads and puddings and carbohydrates outweighs the fact that I'm really not eating much.
I'll have to check the calorie content, and see if I can find lower calorie alternatives that are easy on the esophagus.
Posted by MidnightBlue on October 8, 2007, at 9:59:41
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Dinah on October 8, 2007, at 8:29:39
Dinah, I SO understand this!
MB
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 4, 2008, at 12:19:22
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Dinah on October 8, 2007, at 8:29:39
Dinah,
Thinking about trying this again with you soon. Posting once a week. I need to slowly lose about 60 pounds. Gotta psych myself up first.
What do you think?
MB
Posted by Dinah on January 4, 2008, at 12:31:05
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 4, 2008, at 12:19:22
I was *just* talking to my husband about this. I've gone up another few pounds. :( I really do need to lose, at least fifty pounds.
Sounds good to me. Well, maybe not good, but you know what I mean.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 4, 2008, at 13:04:50
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 4, 2008, at 12:31:05
Maybe we could start Monday? still need to get my head right on this and need to get better food in the house. If you want to wait an extra week let me know. I'm still eating my way through holiday goodies! LOL
MB
Posted by Dinah on January 5, 2008, at 10:10:49
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 4, 2008, at 13:04:50
I think I might take a different approach this time.
According to Dr. Bob's very rude BMI calculator I'm severely obese, and a very restrictive diet for a few weeks won't help the problem at all. Given the magnitude of the problem, and my previous failures at losing the weight, I think I need to go into a planning stage this time.
So starting today I will carry around a notebook and start recording every single bite that I put in my mouth. After a week of doing that I should be able to identify the worst offenders and come up with a plan? And then I can start the actual change in eating.
For example, I rarely say "Oh, I really want something yummy to eat." It's more often that I don't really pay much attention to my eating and either forget to eat then get so hungry that I eat everything that doesn't move. Or I get tired and have trouble concentrating on work, and since eating helps that, I'll grab some bread or tootsie rolls. Everything is designed to help me short term. I only rarely actually binge on something I enjoy.
One area that I am stymied at figuring out a way to avoid failing is carbs. I could easily live on a plain white bread diet forever. I don't mind eating things other than bread or potatoes or pasta. But only if they come *with* bread or potatoes or pasta. I see little hope in cutting these things from my life or even in making them a minor part of my diet. Somehow I have to figure out a diet that relies on these things as a staple, or I just as well give up now.
:(
I think I'll leave out the drinks, since I now only drink sugar free. Although I rather suspect I am often dehydrated, so maybe I should pay attention to that.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 5, 2008, at 14:09:02
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 5, 2008, at 10:10:49
Dinah,
Starting Sunday I will start writing down what I eat and drink, too. I agree this needs to be a long term moderate approach that can be lived with a lifetime.
I, too, could live on white bread as long as it is french and comes with butter! And completely giving up white pasta is NOT going to happen. I've given up white rice for brown and that is sacrifice enough! LOL
MidnightBlue
Posted by Dinah on January 6, 2008, at 18:57:41
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 5, 2008, at 14:09:02
I fear recording what I eat is affecting what I eat. :(
Not just because I don't want to write down something bad, but because it's such a pain to write down everything I eat that it's less trouble not to eat snacks.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 6, 2008, at 19:06:11
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » MidnightBlue, posted by Dinah on January 6, 2008, at 18:57:41
Yeah,
And I've actually been eating worse than usual today! But then I'm extra tired and hurting and food seems to comfort. Maybe I'll try tomorrow.
MB
Posted by Dinah on January 6, 2008, at 20:24:33
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 6, 2008, at 19:06:11
I was doing fine until my mother called.
I'm sorry you're hurting.
Posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2008, at 20:42:37
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Dinah on January 6, 2008, at 20:24:33
The perfect diet seriously after being on them all going off them gaining more wt was the day I stood on the ob-gyn's scale naked and weighed the same as I did every year of my life. That was the day I stopped dieting and you know what I didn't focus on food anymore and no more diets. My weight stayed the same til a year ago. Old age. Love Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on January 6, 2008, at 21:24:26
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2008, at 20:42:37
I'm glad that worked for you. I had a relative who ate like a trooper all her life, and never gained an ounce.
But I'm around 200 pounds, diabetic, and on increasing diabetic medications. I have to make lifestyle changes or I'm going to end up losing my feet or my eyesight eventually. It's not a question of dieting per se. I know what happens to diabetics. I've seen my mother. She'll live forever, but she's disabled because she didn't make changes.
It's very frustrating to me that even though I know all that, and even though I don't want to put my family through that, I still can't seem to muster the self control to do what I need to do.
It's important for me to identify the problem areas, so that I can find other ways to deal with them instead of eating.
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 6, 2008, at 22:51:27
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5, posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2008, at 20:42:37
I have some serious medical problems that are made worse by my weight. They were not caused by it, but they do make it much more difficult for me to lose weight. I really need to try and lose 60 pounds.
This is not a matter of looking younger or being fit. I will never be fit. I'm just trying to stay out of a wheelchair or make the transfer to and from one easier.
I know what a good and healthy diet is. But it is hard to never eat a dish of ice cream or a slice of white bread or a plate of pasta when that is one of the few enjoyable things you can do.
MidnightBlue
Posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2008, at 23:40:21
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Phillipa, posted by MidnightBlue on January 6, 2008, at 22:51:27
Dinah and MB you're both so right. Would weight watchers work? They say it's the healtiest one. You know lost taste and smell about four years ago who knows why? but I don't get hungry as why bother. I guess you two need to work at it very hard together. Can you both do any form of excercise? Dinah know you work and have a family so it's next to impossible. MB don't know your situation family wise but maybe a diet consultant? Any on the internet? Talk is cheap and that's how I feel. I'm sorry if I down played your situations as they are serious for both of you. Phillipa
Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on January 7, 2008, at 6:20:05
In reply to Starting weight. 186. Target weight. 136., posted by Dinah on February 9, 2004, at 23:05:51
to get started again. drop the idea that you have failed somehow. you are going to spend today getting back on track. if you can do ONE thing, that's still better than zero things.
((((dinah)))))
((((MB)))))
you guys are in my thoughts.
-Ll
Posted by Dinah on January 8, 2008, at 12:00:11
In reply to today is the day » Dinah, posted by LlurpsieNoodle on January 7, 2008, at 6:20:05
It's kind of hard to feel positive.
Posted by Dinah on January 8, 2008, at 12:20:19
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Earlier 204 Today 199.5 » Dinah, posted by MidnightBlue on January 6, 2008, at 19:06:11
I'm kind of surprised. My clothes feel tighter.
I've been writing down everything I eat. Unfortunately for the purposes of accurate recording of my behavior, the act of writing it down does seem to change what I eat. Observing changes the behavior observed. My therapist says this is a good thing. But it's not what I was trying for. The main change seems to be in small snacks. Reaching in and grabbing a few tostitos or croutons. It's too much trouble to have to record it.
At any rate,
1/5/07 peanut butter and simply fruit sandwich on white, banana, fruit cup, slice white bread, can of spinach (with vinegar of course), one bagel crisp, medium dressed veal cutlet poboy
1/6/07 2 slices white bread, 3 taco supremes, 1 cheesy fiesta potatoes, fruit cup, mac and cheese, peas, 2 slices white bread, 7 dibs
1/7/07 peanut butter and simply fruit sandwich on white, 3 dibs, bottle of pickled asparagus, 2 plain burger king burgers, 2 dibs, 2 snackwells devils food cookies, controlled portion of spaghetti and meatsauce, salad
I left out minimal calorie stuff like diet drinks and pickles.
The triggers for eating more than I need to eat are so far what I expected. Stress (call from mother) and going too long without eating.
Posted by Dinah on January 8, 2008, at 12:46:22
In reply to Starting weight 186 Still 199.5, posted by Dinah on January 8, 2008, at 12:20:19
Ok, after doing some calculating, it would seem that I'm eating between 1800-2000 calories a day without feeling hungry.
It also looks like I need to reduce my calorie intake by 500 calories a day to lose a moderate amount of weight per week, and after a year or so of that I'll be close to my goal weight.
If I add some exercise.
I'm grabbing a brownie and going to bed. :(((((
Posted by MidnightBlue on January 8, 2008, at 13:15:53
In reply to Re: Starting weight 186 Still 199.5, posted by Dinah on January 8, 2008, at 12:46:22
So far today:
Oatmeal and 1/2 cup coffee.
Salisbury steak and asparagus (diet meal)
Several pieces french bread and diet margerine.
Yoplait Whips
Tea
Tonight will probably be salmon, brown rice, and slaw.
I'm just trying to be more conscious of what I'm eating. Probably wouldn't have had that much bread except the doctor's office called and they screwed up a lab test. This is the THIRD time they have made the same mistake!
MB
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