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Posted by lynn971 on December 7, 2005, at 18:43:14
I have been praying and praying. I have gone to people in my church and they keep telling me to bind up the enemy. I do that. Just the idea that it could be demonic puts more anxiety in me. God can fight my battle when I dont even have the strength to fight anymore.
Posted by spriggy on December 7, 2005, at 20:16:33
In reply to Spriggy, posted by lynn971 on December 7, 2005, at 18:43:14
Oh Lynn,
Be careful to not allow condemnation to set in and make this worse.
The bottom line is *sometimes* it simply is NOT spiritual- it is physical. Sometimes Christians have a hard time excepting that, but it's true.
We live in flesh- sometimes our "flesh" gets messed up and sick. And sometimes we can pray, and pray, and pray but we still need earthly wisdom from a doctor to get the "flesh" part of us better again.
Can God touch you instantly and stop this? YES! And don't stop trusting Him but don't feel like He has failed you becuase He hasn't.
Sometimes HE sustains us and not instantly heals us. And I beginning to think there is a greater faith found in going "through" the thing than being rescued from it (as hard and painful as that is!).
I will put you on the TOP of prayer list this week and ask God to calm you, give you peace, the right meds, and wisdom on how to get better.
I am so so sorry.. Praying for you!
Posted by lynn971 on December 7, 2005, at 21:05:40
In reply to Re: Spriggy » lynn971, posted by spriggy on December 7, 2005, at 20:16:33
Thank you Spriggy. So this is a chemical imbalance and not something spiritual? I can handle that. Oh thanks for praying. Please do. My husband does not know what to do anymore. At this moment I am ok. This is how it has been. I am ok and then bamb!! it is horrible. Thanks so much.
Love,
Lynn
Posted by spriggy on December 8, 2005, at 18:16:22
In reply to Re: Spriggy, posted by lynn971 on December 7, 2005, at 21:05:40
Lynn,
My guess is that yes, it is probably a chemical imbalance in the body/brain.
I think a benzo might help you; they help me.
I'd ask for something like Xanex or Klonopin. If that helps you, than you know likely something was "off" kilter.
I think a physical problem can *become* a spiritual problem if we allow it to come between our relationship with God ( like allowing bitterness and doubt to creep in). OR it can cause us to grow closer to Him because it keeps at His feet in desperate need of Him.
But not everything we endure here, is spiritual. You keep your head up and I think there will be answers soon..
Praying..
Posted by lynn971 on December 8, 2005, at 20:27:29
In reply to Re: Spriggy, posted by spriggy on December 8, 2005, at 18:16:22
I am now on a tranqualizer. The zanax did not help that much.
I went to see my OBGYN today. He got my blood work back and told me that I was definately menapausal. I had a hysterectemy about 3 years ago. I am now 35. So he gave me a shot of harmones. He says that the harmone patch that I am on may not be enough. I am already feeling better. Praise God! I am taking tomorrow off of school too. Just to relax one more day. My mother-in-law wants me to help her wrap presents. I really think she just wants to get me feeling better.
Love,
Lynn
Posted by Phillipa on December 8, 2005, at 22:24:29
In reply to Re: Thanks Spriggy, posted by lynn971 on December 8, 2005, at 20:27:29
Lynn a very wise OBGYN. Your hormones can create horrible anxiety. Mine did and I couldn't take synthetic hormones so got bioidentical hormones from a compounding rx. The provided it in a syringe with out a needle. just push out correct amount of cream, rub in in and it really does work. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Lucia Francisca on December 10, 2005, at 21:58:48
In reply to Spriggy, posted by lynn971 on December 7, 2005, at 18:43:14
Hi lynn971. I hope I'm not butting into the conversation. I read your post, and just wanted to share my experiences. My family is a very evangelical Christian family. I suffer from bipolar II disorder and have had severe depressions, anxiety, and panic attacks in the past. About 5 years ago I had a difficult episode of mental illness and took a quarter off of school to recuperate. I didn't know very much about mental illness at that time. I thought it was just me and my personal problems. I would pray a lot, but sometimes it just wouldn't get better; I wouldn't feel better. My mother, who is very religious, told me that she thought it may be a demon. That really upset me. After learning a lot about depression, anxiety, and bipolar disorder (there is a family, genetic history), on this babble site as well as other sites and books, I learned that there are physical, chemical, and psychological aspects, not just spiritual/religious. I still struggle with my family over this one. I just wanted to share my feelings of pain at being called "demon-possessed" basically. And say that there are other avenues to pursue to find out ways to heal yourself. I'm glad the hormone therapy seems to be working. May I ask what your other symptoms are? Do you have a dx? Are you on other meds? All the best, Lucia
Posted by lynn971 on December 10, 2005, at 22:58:31
In reply to Re: Spriggy, posted by Lucia Francisca on December 10, 2005, at 21:58:48
My symptoms are severe anxiety- I am consumed with the idea of health issues. For instance being worried about the effects of harmone replacement therapy on the breast.
I was reading a book called "Tormented for Eight Years' This lady said that she had to go through a deliverence from demon spirits. Well that book brought even more anxiety to me. I will not read it any longer. I know that if you abide under the shadow of the almighty, he will hide you beneath his wings. (Psalms 91)
I just visualize myself hiding beneath his wings like a baby chick under the wing of its mother. No matter how bad the anxiety gets, I just hide behind the Father, trusting that He will protect me.
Posted by Lucia Francisca on December 12, 2005, at 17:22:57
In reply to Re: my symptoms, posted by lynn971 on December 10, 2005, at 22:58:31
Hi lynn971. I'm sorry you have to deal with severe anxiety. I've dealt with an anxiety disorder in the past, along with a couple of panic attacks. It is not a good feeling. I hope you feel better soon. Lucia
> My symptoms are severe anxiety- I am consumed with the idea of health issues. For instance being worried about the effects of harmone replacement therapy on the breast.
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> I was reading a book called "Tormented for Eight Years' This lady said that she had to go through a deliverence from demon spirits. Well that book brought even more anxiety to me. I will not read it any longer. I know that if you abide under the shadow of the almighty, he will hide you beneath his wings. (Psalms 91)
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> I just visualize myself hiding beneath his wings like a baby chick under the wing of its mother. No matter how bad the anxiety gets, I just hide behind the Father, trusting that He will protect me.
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Posted by crazy teresa on December 24, 2005, at 12:01:34
In reply to Re: my symptoms, posted by Lucia Francisca on December 12, 2005, at 17:22:57
I'm sorry you've been feeling so bad, sweet Lynn!
I'm thinking you wouldn't be able to pray or even want to fight the way you're feeling if a demon spirit was involved. I'm so glad you're seeing the dr.! When our horomones get out of whack, it can do really strange things to our thought process and the way our bodies feel.
When my mom hit menopause, she was convinced God was telling her she had to save the world by killing my brother, whom she thought was Satan. Thank goodness she didn't harm anyone, but she did end up in jail and from there, she was put in the psych ward.
To make a long story short, this 'episode' tore our family apart in many ways that have never healed.
If this doctor doesn't help, move on to another immediately. We have to fight for the kind of help we need at times. Just don't give up searching! If your self-esteem is such that you don't want to do it for yourself, do it for your children and your nephew! They need you healthy more than you realize, sweetie!
There is an excellent section in Dr. Dobson's book "What Wives Wish Their Husbands Knew About Women" on menopause, the symptoms and doctors.
In His love,
crazy t
Posted by crazy teresa on December 24, 2005, at 12:02:53
In reply to Re: my symptoms » Lucia Francisca, posted by crazy teresa on December 24, 2005, at 12:01:34
Posted by lynn971 on December 26, 2005, at 0:44:25
In reply to Re: my symptoms » Lucia Francisca, posted by crazy teresa on December 24, 2005, at 12:01:34
Thanks, I am feeling better since the effexor is working. I am sorry that your family had to go through a hard time. (your mom)
The mental illness thing gets confusing because the bible says fear not over and over again. When anxiety hits, you try so hard to change the thoughts and they just dont go away.
I hate mental illness. Maybe diet has something to do with depression/anxiety.
love,
Lynn
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