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Posted by johnny baklava on October 29, 2009, at 13:02:53
Has anyone tried this fruit? It's being touted as having as strong an anti-depressent effect as St. John's Wort only without the photosensitivity and contraindications. Plus it has a ridiculously high amount of natural Vitamin C amongst other healthful qualities. I've added it to my morning shake for the last two weeks and have to say that I do experience an almost immediate lift.
Posted by bleauberry on November 1, 2009, at 17:31:36
In reply to Camu-Camu, posted by johnny baklava on October 29, 2009, at 13:02:53
What kind of feeling do you get from it?Is it stimulant-like?
Is there any med or herb that it feels similar to?
Does it feel serotonergic?
Noradrenergic?
Dopaminergic?
GABAergic?Relaxing? Energizing? Both?
I noticed some botanist on the web ranks it as #2 on a list of plant antidepresants, and st johns wort didn't even make the list! So it must have some fairly good potential. I'm just curious as to how you would answer the above questions, so as to maybe get a hint of what kind of an antidepressant effect it has.
Thanks!
> Has anyone tried this fruit? It's being touted as having as strong an anti-depressent effect as St. John's Wort only without the photosensitivity and contraindications. Plus it has a ridiculously high amount of natural Vitamin C amongst other healthful qualities. I've added it to my morning shake for the last two weeks and have to say that I do experience an almost immediate lift.
Posted by johnny baklava on November 1, 2009, at 22:34:56
In reply to Re: Camu-Camu, posted by bleauberry on November 1, 2009, at 17:31:36
Posted by johnny baklava on November 2, 2009, at 18:10:02
In reply to Re: Camu-Camu, posted by bleauberry on November 1, 2009, at 17:31:36
Not stimulant like, definitely serotonergic, like Prozac, actually, only very mild and subtle. I took too much today, though, and my head feels thickagain, much like I felt on Prozac. I took a tablespoon when, before, I got the best effect from a teaspoon or even half a teaspoon twice a day. It just made me feel a little sunshiney, with a slight shift in perspective. I didn't dwell as much. And I didn't get the irritation and unease the I get from Nora and Dopa stuff. I was all for it until taking too much! I'll try less tomorrow and see if I get the initial positive feeling. But, even having too much, I don't get a side-effect-type feeljust a little thick headed. No weird irritability or rebound depression/mixed feeling that I can get from herbs like ashwagandha or holy basil.
Posted by janejane on December 26, 2009, at 5:13:25
In reply to Re: Camu-Camu, posted by johnny baklava on November 2, 2009, at 18:10:02
Updates?
Posted by johnny baklava on December 26, 2009, at 11:44:26
In reply to Re: Camu-Camu » johnny baklava, posted by janejane on December 26, 2009, at 5:13:25
> Updates?
Well, I add it to my morning shake now, with spirulina, bee pollen, and hemp seed. It's a nice lift. I was taking it on its own for a while and I would get a sense of well-being within an hour or so, but after a week or so, I started to feel a little sad, perhaps "mixed." I'm not sure if this was the camu-camu, or me experimenting with different forms of magnesium at different times of the day, or just situational stuff. I also take empower plus, and have increased my dose from 3 to 4 capsules a day and am feeling fine.
Posted by haldente on November 6, 2012, at 10:18:34
In reply to Re: Camu-Camu » janejane, posted by johnny baklava on December 26, 2009, at 11:44:26
I tried camu strictly as a vitamin C supplement not knowing it had a mood altering effect. With half a teaspoon I did seem to be "happier" but found I was only sleeping half the night. I would wake and not want to sleep anymore but then end up tired due to lack of sleep.
My point is we should consider this plant a herb, I think there is a naturally occurring drug in it. No one selling it mentions this.
I got this list of chemicals in camu fruit from Dr. Duke's Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases. I'm not a chemist, anyone see any drug like chemicals in here? Dr Bob?
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4-O-METHYLELLAGIC-ACID (leaf)
4-TERPINEOL
ALANINE
ALPHA-(RHAMNOPYRANOSYL)ELLAGIC-ACID (leaf)
ALPHA-FENCHENE
ALPHA-PHELLANDRENE
ALPHA-PINENE
ALPHA-TERPINENE
ANTHOCYANINS
ASCORBIC-ACID
ASCORBIC-ACID
ASH
BETA-CAROTENE
BETA-CARYOPHYLLENE
BETA-MYRCENE
BETA-PHELLANDRENE
BETA-PINENE
CALCIUM
CAMPHENE
CAR-3-ENE
CARBOHYDRATES
CITRIC-ACID
CYANIDIN-3-GLUCOSIDE
D-LIMONENE
DEHYDROASCORBIC-ACID
DELPHINIDIN-3-GLUCOSIDE
ELLAGIC-ACID (leaf)
ETHYL-ACETATE
ETHYL-BUTYRATE
EUCALYPTOL
FENCHOL
FIBER
FRUCTOSE
GAMMA-TERPINENE
GLUCOSE
HUMULENE
IRON
ISOCITRIC-ACID
KILOCALORIES
LEUCINE
MALIC-ACID
NIACIN
P-CYMENE
PHENYLALANINE
PHOSPHORUS
POTASSIUM
PROLINE
PROTEIN
RIBOFLAVIN
SERINE
TERPINOLENE
THIAMIN
THREONINE
VALINE
WATER
Posted by johnnybaklava on November 6, 2012, at 10:43:02
In reply to Camu-Camu drugs?, posted by haldente on November 6, 2012, at 10:18:34
When do you take it? First thing in the morning? So many herbs that help me feel good during the day seem to affect my sleep at night in the same way you mention. I'll feel fine, bounding out of bed with energy, but will crash later in the day because I only got a half-night's sleep! I noticed a mile "brightening" when I took camu-camu, but not enough to have me continue it. I still have it, though, and take it when I feel a cold coming on.
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