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Posted by leo33 on December 20, 2003, at 20:12:49
I have just ordered DLPA 750 mg i think, i was wondering if anyone has any experience with it and what you thoughts are on it. It seems promising.
Posted by Franz on December 21, 2003, at 12:42:54
In reply to Anyone have experience with DLPA?? Maybe Larry, posted by leo33 on December 20, 2003, at 20:12:49
it is a mild stimulant for me
maybe better on an empty stomach
or you can use it under the tongue, tastes sweet
now I am trying tyrosine due to some things I read here
Posted by Recumbent on December 21, 2003, at 16:19:06
In reply to Anyone have experience with DLPA?? Maybe Larry, posted by leo33 on December 20, 2003, at 20:12:49
> I have just ordered DLPA 750 mg i think, i was wondering if anyone has any experience with it and what you thoughts are on it. It seems promising.
I use it for back pain.
Posted by fogmama on December 30, 2003, at 13:34:34
In reply to Anyone have experience with DLPA?? Maybe Larry, posted by leo33 on December 20, 2003, at 20:12:49
Leo33,
> I have just ordered DLPA 750 mg i think, i was wondering if anyone has any experience with it and what you thoughts are on it. It seems promising.
For a brief period (about 1 month), a couple of years ago, I used both DLPA 500mg and L-Tyrosine 500mg once a day. I'd gone through a period of many months, maybe years, of fog and inability to keep anything straight or organized, stick to tasks (other than sitting in front of the computer, for some reason!).
The month that I was on those two in combination was like a vacation from all that. I still marvel at how organized, efficient and clear-minded I became within a few days of beginning to take the supplements.
I could do math in my head again, and I organized five years' worth of messy "files" (read piles of papers in no order) into tidy boxes for storage.
Some unfortunate side effects, particularly of the L-Tyrosine (bad, bad headaches) - took me off of the combo. I went onto 5-HTP for about a year after that, and while it kept my mood level, never have I experienced anything like the DLPA + Tyro combination. I'm now nursing a baby so I can't experiment - how I wish I could, since my brain is all foggy again (only moreso)!
The main recommendation I would make based on my own experiment is to stick with good quality, and 500mg or less dosage, especially if you are prone to headaches or migraines. Actually that's more for the Tyro now that I think about it, I don't remember any s/e from the DLPA (never took it alone though).
Good luck,
fogmama
Posted by buddhi on January 16, 2004, at 19:37:15
In reply to Re: Anyone have experience with DLPA?? Maybe Larry » leo33, posted by fogmama on December 30, 2003, at 13:34:34
> Leo33,
>
> > I have just ordered DLPA 750 mg i think, i was wondering if anyone has any experience with it and what you thoughts are on it. It seems promising.
>
> For a brief period (about 1 month), a couple of years ago, I used both DLPA 500mg and L-Tyrosine 500mg once a day. I'd gone through a period of many months, maybe years, of fog and inability to keep anything straight or organized, stick to tasks (other than sitting in front of the computer, for some reason!).
>
> The month that I was on those two in combination was like a vacation from all that. I still marvel at how organized, efficient and clear-minded I became within a few days of beginning to take the supplements.
>
> I could do math in my head again, and I organized five years' worth of messy "files" (read piles of papers in no order) into tidy boxes for storage.
>
> Some unfortunate side effects, particularly of the L-Tyrosine (bad, bad headaches) - took me off of the combo. I went onto 5-HTP for about a year after that, and while it kept my mood level, never have I experienced anything like the DLPA + Tyro combination. I'm now nursing a baby so I can't experiment - how I wish I could, since my brain is all foggy again (only moreso)!
>
> The main recommendation I would make based on my own experiment is to stick with good quality, and 500mg or less dosage, especially if you are prone to headaches or migraines. Actually that's more for the Tyro now that I think about it, I don't remember any s/e from the DLPA (never took it alone though).
>
> Good luck,
>
> fogmamaWondering what brand you used for both the dlpa and the tyrosine???? thanks ame
Posted by fogmama on February 3, 2004, at 16:53:36
In reply to Re: Anyone have experience with DLPA?? Maybe Larry, posted by buddhi on January 16, 2004, at 19:37:15
Hi,
> Wondering what brand you used for both the dlpa and the tyrosine???? thanks ame
One of the Tyrosines was the GNC nutrition store brand (that one gave me the headache). I don't remember the other brands, unfortunately. Sorry!
fm
Posted by dingbat on February 15, 2004, at 8:56:57
In reply to Anyone have experience with DLPA?? Maybe Larry, posted by leo33 on December 20, 2003, at 20:12:49
Hi - I'm a psychologist and am often asked to recommend "supplements" by my clients (particularly the ever-growing number who don't want prescription meds). I am a chronic Mixed Anxiety-Depression sufferer (plus migraines too) and have a DUAL interest: personal and professional. I've tried DLPA 500mg (by Solgar)in all sorts of doses (and ALWAYS with Solgar VM 2000 to ensure sufficient co-factors like Vit B6 and Vit C, etc.). It's never worked for me.
Similarly, I have - on the basis of research - recommended it to clients (various doses, always a decent brand like Solgar). NOT ONE CLIENT has ever experienced a *RADICAL* shift in mood/energy level/memory/concentration/chronic pain.
The advice that I am using fo myself and clients is that offered by "big names" like: Dr A Fox, Dr Leon Chaitow, Patrick Holford, and various other reliable sources.
Are others out there finding the same thing? Perhaps I should switch myself/clients to L-Tyrosine instead?
Regards, Dingbat
Posted by Franz on February 21, 2004, at 15:48:40
In reply to About DLPA ........, posted by dingbat on February 15, 2004, at 8:56:57
> Hi - I'm a psychologist and am often asked to recommend "supplements" by my clients (particularly the ever-growing number who don't want prescription meds). I am a chronic Mixed Anxiety-Depression sufferer (plus migraines too) and have a DUAL interest: personal and professional. I've tried DLPA 500mg (by Solgar)in all sorts of doses (and ALWAYS with Solgar VM 2000 to ensure sufficient co-factors like Vit B6 and Vit C, etc.). It's never worked for me.
>
> Similarly, I have - on the basis of research - recommended it to clients (various doses, always a decent brand like Solgar). NOT ONE CLIENT has ever experienced a *RADICAL* shift in mood/energy level/memory/concentration/chronic pain.
>
> The advice that I am using fo myself and clients is that offered by "big names" like: Dr A Fox, Dr Leon Chaitow, Patrick Holford, and various other reliable sources.
>
> Are others out there finding the same thing? Perhaps I should switch myself/clients to L-Tyrosine instead?
>
> Regards, DingbatHello, I have tried dl phenylalanine and find it stimulant.
Now I am trying tyrosine and do not notice the effect, but maybe the dose I use is to low (under 1 gram).
There are other amino acids too, but I do not know if you want just noradrenalin and dopamine precursors.
Anyway, why a psychologist should have to recommend "supplements"?. Your patients seem to be confused about what psychotherapy is. They should ask a nutritionist if supplements if what they want.
It seems to me that many people look for "alternatives" to avoid any real treatment.
Best.
Posted by dingbat on February 22, 2004, at 8:38:13
In reply to Re: About DLPA .... » dingbat, posted by Franz on February 21, 2004, at 15:48:40
> > Hi - I'm a psychologist and am often asked to recommend "supplements" by my clients (particularly the ever-growing number who don't want prescription meds). I am a chronic Mixed Anxiety-Depression sufferer (plus migraines too) and have a DUAL interest: personal and professional. I've tried DLPA 500mg (by Solgar)in all sorts of doses (and ALWAYS with Solgar VM 2000 to ensure sufficient co-factors like Vit B6 and Vit C, etc.). It's never worked for me.
> >
> > Similarly, I have - on the basis of research - recommended it to clients (various doses, always a decent brand like Solgar). NOT ONE CLIENT has ever experienced a *RADICAL* shift in mood/energy level/memory/concentration/chronic pain.
> >
> > The advice that I am using fo myself and clients is that offered by "big names" like: Dr A Fox, Dr Leon Chaitow, Patrick Holford, and various other reliable sources.
> >
> > Are others out there finding the same thing? Perhaps I should switch myself/clients to L-Tyrosine instead?
> >
> > Regards, Dingbat
>
>
>
> Hello, I have tried dl phenylalanine and find it stimulant.
>
> Now I am trying tyrosine and do not notice the effect, but maybe the dose I use is to low (under 1 gram).
>
> There are other amino acids too, but I do not know if you want just noradrenalin and dopamine precursors.
>
> Anyway, why a psychologist should have to recommend "supplements"?. Your patients seem to be confused about what psychotherapy is. They should ask a nutritionist if supplements if what they want.
>
> It seems to me that many people look for "alternatives" to avoid any real treatment.
>
> Best.No, my clients are confused about what psychotherapy is. It's just that most prescribers and health shop owners in this country (South Africa) don't provide clients with sufficient knowledge to make informed choices. Or, frankly, provide misinformation. I've noticed that psychologists in my area seem to be left to clean up the mess AFTER clients have tried the other alternatives. Also, what psychotherapy is/is not is largely determined by the practitioner and his/her knowledge/experience. We don't have the luxury of well-informed "psycho-nutritionists" in our area, so one has to do one's best to assist clients in this regard (either directly if you possesses the knowledge, or via referral).
If you don't mind me asking, what dose of dlPA did you find 'stimulating'. Was the dlDA just 'stimulating' (i.e., decreased anergia) or did it have a distinct 'antidepressant' effect too (i.e., a distinct positive effect on mood)?
Thanks.
Posted by isg on December 26, 2004, at 6:24:33
In reply to Re: About DLPA ...., posted by dingbat on February 22, 2004, at 8:38:13
I have had some good results with dl-phenylalanine (not curative, but mood elevating, and fewer aches and pains). I take 1000mg, and sometimes an extra 500mg later in the day.
However, to have any chance of it working, it is essential that there be no competition for the amino acid transporters. This means eating nothing (!) except water for 2 hours before and 1 hour after. The morning dose is easiest: I take the tablets before getting out of bed, and wait an hour before eating breakfast.
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