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Posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 1:16:11
In reply to Re: don't fully understand Twitter » Dinah, posted by Deneb on July 2, 2009, at 1:10:21
Hmmm...
Maybe I'm old.
I'm not sure if there's anyone in the world I'd want to follow. Say, if Bob Crane were still alive and I followed him, I really can't see a lot of good coming from it. Either it would be superficial stuff promoting his new movie, or it would be far far too much information about someone with whom I am not intimately acquainted.
Maybe the Dalai Lama or something, if he confined it to words of wisdom. Not what he had for lunch.
Which is neither here nor there about Babble. Just a general showing of my very old age.
Posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 1:22:18
In reply to Re: don't fully understand Twitter » Dinah, posted by Deneb on July 2, 2009, at 1:10:21
Still, it's entirely true that Babble is getting less traffic from Google. And that while some people stay for years on Babble, in general Babble relies on a steady stream of new posters to remain vibrant and healthy. Most people come and leave, hopefully when they are feeling better. Some stay for long periods of time.
If twitter is a way to achieve Babble health, then I can see cautiously supporting the venture.
Posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 1:28:12
In reply to Re: don't fully understand Twitter, posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 1:22:18
How about if people sent you some of their favorite posts for your consideration? By email if you like. You don't read all the boards anymore, and not all the thoughtful and intelligent posts are on Admin. I know I have plenty of truly wonderful posts bookmarked, and if a short excerpt could lead others to them, it would seem like a gift. If, of course, the poster had no objection.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 1:36:36
In reply to Re: don't fully understand Twitter, posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 1:03:11
> That's what I mean. If someone follows twitter and also follows or is followed by someone in their real life, then one can lead to the other and privacy may be compromised.
I'm still not sure I understand your question. If @tom follows @psycho_babel and @dick follows @tom (or even if he doesn't), then @dick can see that @tom follows @psycho_babel. But that doesn't mean @tom is the Babbler Tom. Or even a Babbler at all. @ = Twitter account name.
OTOH, if @tom tweets identifying information and Tom posts the same identifying information, then @dick might connect the dots. See:
http://www.dr-bob.org/twitter/followers.html
> Do you mind explaining how you think Babble will be benefited? Is it that very sequence of events? That people will follow babble, others will be curious and check it out, etc.?
Right, if @dick sees that @tom follows @psycho_babel, he might read my tweets, click on the links to check out the posts, find them thoughtful and intelligent, and join Babble. And follow @psycho_babel himself. Then if @harry follows @dick...
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 1:50:45
In reply to Hey, Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 1:28:12
> How about if people sent you some of their favorite posts for your consideration? By email if you like. You don't read all the boards anymore, and not all the thoughtful and intelligent posts are on Admin. I know I have plenty of truly wonderful posts bookmarked, and if a short excerpt could lead others to them, it would seem like a gift. If, of course, the poster had no objection.
That's a great idea! People could just use the notification button. And you deputies could tweet from that account, too.
Bob
Posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 2:07:53
In reply to Re: favorite posts, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 1:50:45
> And you deputies could tweet from that account, too.
>
> BobSpeaking for myself, I am unequal to that at this point since I barely understand the concept.
Why don't you add the possibility of nominating posts so to speak to the announcement?
Posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 2:13:19
In reply to Re: favorite posts, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 1:50:45
And Dr. Bob, this again may not be feasible, but since there are significant privacy concerns for posters being followers, maybe it would be possible to instead encourage your colleagues to follow? Or other mental health professionals who may find Babble a resource? Or others who risk nothing to follow Babble?
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 2:35:37
In reply to Re: favorite posts, posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 2:13:19
> Why don't you add the possibility of nominating posts so to speak to the announcement?
Another good idea, thanks again!
> And Dr. Bob, this again may not be feasible, but since there are significant privacy concerns for posters being followers, maybe it would be possible to instead encourage your colleagues to follow? Or other mental health professionals who may find Babble a resource? Or others who risk nothing to follow Babble?
I'd say I've discouraged following more than encouraged it. Also, people don't have to follow someone to see their tweets.
Bob
Posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 7:51:05
In reply to Re: favorite posts, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 2:35:37
A fair number of posters whose posts I think would be a gift to others have signed up to opt out.
I think at this point, and balancing my concerns about Babble's dwindling numbers with my discomfort at seeing my words in a context other than I meant them and a place other than where I posted them, I don't think I know enough to opt out. So far it doesn't seem all that different from google search results, assuming you don't excerpt poorly. I have my concerns, but I guess they aren't so great as to say no at this point. I reserve the right to say no in the future, or if I learn more about Twitter and the possible consequences.
Need the posts we suggest be about Babble or Administration? Some of the ones I'm thinking of are about therapy or life.
Posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 7:54:14
In reply to Re: favorite posts » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 7:51:05
Of course, a short excerpt might not do them justice if people don't follow the links back.
I've often thought it would be wonderful to have posters work together with you to do some sort of "Wisdom of Babble" book. :)
Which is not a suggestion. Just a wish.
Posted by twinleaf on July 2, 2009, at 8:32:31
In reply to Re: favorite posts, posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 7:54:14
I'm starting to sound like a total broken record, but if the principal reason for using Twitter is to attract more new posters, why not consider more seriously one of the main reasons active Babblers leave. They get hurt by the severe blocking policies. Friends and onlookers leave because they are fearful the same thing will happen to them, and they begin to feel unsafe here.
Posters love Babble- it is fascinating, intimate, and can be tremendously helpful and informative to us all. In general, I don't think people want to leave, even when they are feeling better, although they will probably post less often as their outside lives become fuller.
Bob just stated, above, that his reason for giving blocks, including long or escalating ones, was to enforce the Babble civility rules. Wouldn't it be wonderful if he could achieve the same objective- making sure the civility rules were followed, while giving blocks in such a moderate and careful manner that no-one ever left Babble because of them? It's eminently feasible- it's what good parents (and good administrators) do every day of their lives.
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 9:34:17
In reply to Re: favorite posts, posted by twinleaf on July 2, 2009, at 8:32:31
> Posters love Babble- it is fascinating, intimate, and can be tremendously helpful and informative to us all.
Too bad you opted out, I think:
twinleaf: Babble is fascinating, intimate, and can be tremendously helpful and informative to us all. http://tiny.dr-bob.org/fnug
would've made a nice tweet.
Bob
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on July 2, 2009, at 9:51:19
In reply to Re: favorite posts, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 9:34:17
was the opting out successful, the ship sank. Still in the water....Is the Carpathia coming soon? I'm cold!
Dr-bob, need some imput....
I've got to run to Lowe's and Deal with Rob again, this time I need to see if he has some telepgraph radio's, sometimes walking into lowe's, it's the best, people are friendly, not all, some go in the back, don't know what they do...eat lunch? Last time it was, Vacuume cleaner belt's, he said no in stock, I have a section to elite leather belts for jeans.
Whew! Cold! waiting for Carpathia to get here! get to New York and go to Lowe's and finish the new home Refuirnishment in New York, or penthouse. It's a deal there!
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on July 2, 2009, at 9:53:50
In reply to Re: don't fully understand Twitter, posted by Dinah on July 2, 2009, at 1:16:11
Where Did the good dr-bob go? Who's running this Dr-Phil?
rj
Posted by rskontos on July 2, 2009, at 11:54:51
In reply to this site change'd since 2000, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on July 2, 2009, at 9:53:50
Naw,
If it was Dr. Phil, we'd hear, "How's that going for you".
Again, if I had to guess I'd say a grad student or one of those he said might join here from that study.
rsk
Posted by MidnightBlue on July 2, 2009, at 15:13:12
In reply to Re: favorite posts, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 1:50:45
> > How about if people sent you some of their favorite posts for your consideration? By email if you like. You don't read all the boards anymore, and not all the thoughtful and intelligent posts are on Admin. I know I have plenty of truly wonderful posts bookmarked, and if a short excerpt could lead others to them, it would seem like a gift. If, of course, the poster had no objection.
>
> That's a great idea! People could just use the notification button. And you deputies could tweet from that account, too.
>
> BobOH GREAT, now the overworked Deputies have to Tweet too? and remember who said it was okay? NOT a good idea.
Posted by FindingMyDesire on July 2, 2009, at 16:31:29
In reply to Please do not post anything of me on Twitter, posted by FindingMyDesire on July 2, 2009, at 11:33:29
And, I can't catch up on all of these Admin posts. I start to have major anxiety.
Can anyone tell me if Bob has decided to post older posts or only new ones?
FMD
Posted by floatingbridge on July 2, 2009, at 16:31:30
In reply to Re: Please do not post anything of me on Twitter, posted by FindingMyDesire on July 2, 2009, at 13:02:35
Hi,
my understanding is that, if one is on the no twitter list, then nothing of one's will be tweeted....
fb
Posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 17:00:28
In reply to I am OUT (nm), posted by muffled on July 1, 2009, at 22:33:47
Posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 17:00:29
In reply to PLEASE DON'T PUT MY POSTS ON TWITTER THX (nm) » Dr. Bob, posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 16:42:22
I think it's only proper & ethical to do so. I would never have known about this & been able to 'opt out' (apparently) except for the fact that someone put a link for this thread on the Social Board.
Dr. Bob, I think this is probably an oversight on your part & it's not my intention to judge or criticize.
I just want to point out that many of us here have safety issues & security issues & anyhow, I think it shows a general respect for others' privacy to make sure everyone has a chance to let you know if they want information regarding them (even in a shortened form) posted somewhere else.
Thanks, Kath
PS - I'm not even sure I understand the whole Twitter thing. I am assuming that it would be a totally separate thing from Babble. That you would not get to it from within Babble.
Posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 17:00:29
In reply to Re: this is it (nm) » BayLeaf, posted by Dr. Bob on July 1, 2009, at 21:29:10
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 17:19:15
In reply to Would you please put a notice on each board? » Kath, posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 17:00:29
> Would you please put a notice on each board?
There should be one there already?
> PS - I'm not even sure I understand the whole Twitter thing. I am assuming that it would be a totally separate thing from Babble. That you would not get to it from within Babble.
It's a web site, so links to it can be posted here. So people could get to it from here. Is that what you mean?
Bob
Posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 18:02:51
In reply to Re: the whole Twitter thing, posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 17:19:15
~ ~ ~ Oh - you're absolutely right! There is - right at the top. I often just click on the notice on my email that there's a post on a thread I'm following, so I didn't see it.
:-) sorry!> It's a web site, so links to it can be posted here. So people could get to it from here. Is that what you mean?
>
> Bob~ ~ ~ I had thought that anyone, even non-members of PB could go to Twitter, and because of that, it's sort of more 'open to the general public'. I realize that anyone can join Babble. Also, though, that tons of non-babblers will be at Twitter. Maybe I'm being sort of paranoid...I post all kinds of really personal stuff, especially about my son's life - so the uncomfortable part (one reason I opted out) was that any-old-body could read a clip or thumbnail of what "Kath" wrote - & just come to Babble to be nosy & read more about me & my life. In other words, not come here for the kind of support that we Babblers get & give to each other. I guess I don't like the thought of people coming here just out of curiosity sparked by something they read on Twitter.
It's a fairly big concern for me. Even though I'm opted out!
Kath
PS - Even given the above-mentioned concern, I think I like that you have made the option to link Babble with something that's new & 'upcoming' so that people here can be involved there also. I'd prefer it wasn't linked, but that's just me personally. I have mixed feelings about it.
I would have preferred if the default was that everyone was 'opted out' & had to apply TO be a part of Twitter. I feel sorta disappointed that it wasn't set up like that.
Thanks for having the notice at the top of each Board. I appreciate the fact that you've done that & made it very easy to get to the discussion of it, and to opt out.
Thanks & thanks for your quick reply!
:-)) Kath
Oh - PartlyCloudy's post sparked a question....
An important one, which I don't understand how it could be done....
So from now on, no 'thumbnails' or whatever, of "Kath" posts will appear on Twitter. BUT - if people come to Babble, they'll be able to read all posts on Babble, won't they? Would they be able to click on something at "PsychoBabbleTwitter" & be right IN PsychoBabble in the same way that they would if they had joined it & registered????
Sorry if I'm being dense.
Posted by Timne on July 2, 2009, at 18:46:36
In reply to Important question at end. » Dr. Bob, posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 18:02:51
> Would they be able to click on something at "PsychoBabbleTwitter" & be right IN PsychoBabble in the same way that they would if they had joined it & registered????
>
> Sorry if I'm being dense.Yes, but they can get here through Google, too. Guess how many people have said "I love the Spitfire Grill" online? I'm hoping neither of the other two are clues about you, but if you'd ever posted that line anywhere else, your daisies would be chained together by Google. What if you'd also logged your movie interests somewhere else, maybe on Facebook, where you (hypothetically) identified yourself and used the same phrase?
And what then if you then decided that bit of ostensibly innocuous information revealed too much personal detail? Maybe a detailed explanation, coupled with the right rhetorical genuflection, would persuade this site's administrator to remove it. But the wrong intonation in your request could prompt an "I'm the therapist acting for the good of the group. NO!" response. You could be exposed to everybody that watches CNN as "the girl who loves the Spitfire Grill" and (won the lottery/ escaped a burning building/ published an award-winning book/ or whatever gets you on CNN)
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 2, 2009, at 18:58:20
In reply to Important question at end. » Dr. Bob, posted by Kath on July 2, 2009, at 18:02:51
> I had thought that anyone, even non-members of PB could go to Twitter, and because of that, it's sort of more 'open to the general public'. ... any-old-body could read a clip or thumbnail of what "Kath" wrote - & just come to Babble to be nosy & read more about me & my life. In other words, not come here for the kind of support that we Babblers get & give to each other. I guess I don't like the thought of people coming here just out of curiosity sparked by something they read on Twitter.
Maybe think of it like Google? Non-members can also see something there, click on it, and be right here. And they might come at first just out of curiosity, but then like the support and information they find here and decide to become members themselves.
Bob
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