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Posted by Dr. Bob on December 13, 2006, at 3:52:42
In reply to Credentials? » Dr. Bob, posted by madeline on December 12, 2006, at 7:02:00
> If someone posts here and says they are a doctor, psychologist etc... do you require verification of that claim?
I do try to enforce:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#pick
Bob
Posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:26:44
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob » Karen44, posted by emme on December 11, 2006, at 21:42:41
> > I find it highly insulting to have a student decide if someone's message is okay to be posted
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> Why?
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she's not a professional; has her own problems; and is in my opinion not in a position to judge.
Posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:31:58
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week » Karen44, posted by muffled on December 11, 2006, at 23:34:27
> >> If students get to decide what can and can not be posted, then I guess this who psychobabble thing is ridiculous. Who decided a mere student with her own problems would get to decide what could be posted? What a crock. No wonder there are psychiatrists out there who think this who psychobabble thing is not so hot.
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> > Karen44
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> **Yo so Karen44, I not a student, I not nothing but a stay at home MOM. So what am I a useless piece of sh*t with no brains at all?????? A lowlife of society? A non-person?
> Just cuz you got an education makes you have better judgement than me???? You think you better than me?
> Who better to understand craziness than a crazy is what I say, HA! And I could say a whole lotta sad stuff bout you, but it wouldn't be civil.
> This here's Bobs site and he can do WHATEVER he sees fit.
> You don't like it , then leave.
> Try it , and like it, then live with it.
> And GG is very nice I'd have you know. never seen her diss people down.
> Muffledyou don't indiscriminately block people; that's my beef. of course you have valuable things to contribute. besides i didn't diss gg.
karen44
Posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:43:00
In reply to Re: Credentials?, posted by Dr. Bob on December 13, 2006, at 3:52:42
> > If someone posts here and says they are a doctor, psychologist etc... do you require verification of that claim?
>
> I do try to enforce:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#pick
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> BobI am truely a licensed psychologist, and I think Dr. Bob knows this to be true. I would have no problem with him checking to see that I am licensed in several states including Illinois. I am not interested in being insulted by others who think I have insulted them. My only beef is with the judgement of some who have been designated as deputies.
karen44
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 14, 2006, at 17:26:41
In reply to Re: Credentials?, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:43:00
Hi Karen44,
You wrote,[...a licensed psychologist...of some who have been designated as deputies...].
I am also interested in this deputy system. I will follow your posts concerning this because of the psychological/emotional aspect concerning this that you may be more qualified than I, as a psychologists, to comment on.
Lou
Posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 17:36:55
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob » emme, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:26:44
> > > I find it highly insulting to have a student decide if someone's message is okay to be posted
> >
> > Why?
> >
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> she's not a professional; has her own problems; and is in my opinion not in a position to judge.**Ahhhh, and are YOU in a position to judge my educated dear?
Is THAT it?
Or only is a person w/ a PHD in that position?
Or mebbe God Himself?
Mebbe we need God to come and moderate.....
Or whomever your higher power is.
Bobs pretty educated....and IMO has not got blocking down pat yet....
Bob has chosen and educated his deputies in what his criteria are.
This is Bobs site.
Blocks hurt me terribly. On assoerted levels. I have a problem with the blocking system.
But I think the deputies and Bob are probably just doing the best that they humanly can.
We are all humans.
You too.
Ooooops, that might be considered uncivil to rewfer to someone as human......
Sigh.
Muffled
Posted by tofuemmy on December 14, 2006, at 17:44:03
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob » emme, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:26:44
Karen - I think of Babble as a peer run support group. Bob definately oversees the place, but basically it's a bunch of psych patients all trying to help each other out (on the good days).
I'd hazard a guess that most websites for us are also peer run, for the most part.
If Bob disagrees with anything a deputy does, he just overrules it. If you have an issue with what may look like some unfairness...take it up with the big guy. It all lands on his desk.
em
Posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 17:47:17
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:31:58
Who decided a mere student with her own problems would get to decide what could be posted? >
> you don't indiscriminately block people; that's my beef. besides i didn't diss gg.
>
* a mere student
Calling someone mere, is dissing them in my book....*Implying that 'her own problems' would interfere with her judgement is dissing someone in my book. And we ALL got problems....
* I think there is less indiscriminant blocking than there used to be.
I have issue with the LENGTH of blocks.
Some have issue with fairness as well. But since when has life been fair?
We are dealing with imperfect humanity.
In an ugly nasty world.
Muffled
Posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 20:32:48
In reply to Hmmmmm, I'm feeling dissed., posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 17:36:55
Wow. such a strong reaction! I never said I was in a better position. I owned my position and feeling.
Karen44
Posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 20:44:06
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob » Karen44, posted by tofuemmy on December 14, 2006, at 17:44:03
Final note from me; I don't intend to return to this thread. Sorry I used the term "mere." My point is that I would not put myself in the position of being a deputy, and I am a psycholgist. I am also dealing with depression, and I am struggling with whether or not to do ECT as it could mean the end of my career. With any negative consequences, I would most certainly kill myself. My career means everything to me. I don't take anything lightly.
Karen44
Posted by Happyflower on December 14, 2006, at 20:49:29
In reply to Re: Hmmmmm, I'm feeling dissed. » muffled, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 20:32:48
I don't think you need to have a degree to be a deputy of this site, in order to a good job. A degree means you spent a lot of time in school and yes it is wonderful, but it doesn't mean that you are any more adjusted personally than anyone else.
My T has 2 siblings who are T's and one has a drinking problem and the other one suffers from depression. My T has his share of personal problem too, I am sure. I have met a lot of PHD's in a lot of professions, and they aren't any better than anyone else. Those who think they are better, well ummmm. I can't say what I want, but ummmm..... well, they have T's who can help with that personality disorder. LOL
Posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 21:03:45
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 20:44:06
> Final note from me; I don't intend to return to this thread. Sorry I used the term "mere." My point is that I would not put myself in the position of being a deputy, and I am a psycholgist. I am also dealing with depression, and I am struggling with whether or not to do ECT as it could mean the end of my career. With any negative consequences, I would most certainly kill myself. My career means everything to me. I don't take anything lightly.
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> Karen44**Ahhhh, would the REAL Karen44 please stand up! Yayyy!
You ARE human, you DO struggle, just like us!!!!!
Welcome to Babbleland. You just might be a good deputy....
Come to psychology board and talk with us.
We behave MUCH better over there. Maybe I haven't seen your posts. Sorry if so, I seem to miss alot of stuff.
I hope you got some good IRL support. Sounds like you are in a very scarey place. I am sad to hear that :(
But for support from other strugglers, come on over.
Hope to see you there.
Muffled
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:03:58
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week » gardenergirl, posted by Karen44 on December 10, 2006, at 21:41:02
> Never mind gardengirl; you don't need to respond to who are you. I just learned you are a student with ADHD. I hope you don't let such power as being "a deputy" go to your head.
Thanks for sharing your concern. It certainly is an important issue for anyone involved in relationships with power differentials. I'll follow
Oh look, a puppy!
Regards,
gg
Posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 21:06:27
In reply to power of deputies » Karen44, posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:03:58
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:07:51
In reply to Re: gardenergirl, posted by Toph on December 11, 2006, at 9:56:44
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:14:44
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week » Karen44, posted by emme on December 11, 2006, at 15:23:07
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:15:51
In reply to JUST adhd??, posted by tofuemmy on December 11, 2006, at 16:33:59
> Heck, I'd be flattered!
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> ;-) Hugs to gg
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> emCan't forget IPS: Irregular Polygon Syndrome. ;)
Thanks. Hugs right back to you.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:18:49
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week » Karen44, posted by muffled on December 11, 2006, at 23:34:27
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> ...a stay at home MOM....which is a difficult and extremely undervalued job.
Thanks for your kind words.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:20:05
In reply to ((((((((((((gg))))))))))))) (nm), posted by Deneb on December 11, 2006, at 23:56:56
It means a lot that you would post a supportive message to me when you're struggling with your own stuff right now.
((((((Deneb)))))
Take care.
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:21:10
In reply to Re: deciding what can and can not be posted, posted by sunnydays on December 12, 2006, at 13:57:14
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:23:03
In reply to Re: JUST adhd?? » tofuemmy, posted by Gabbi~G~ on December 12, 2006, at 17:19:28
Posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:34:35
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 20:44:06
> My point is that I would not put myself in the position of being a deputy, and I am a psycholgist.
Thank you for clarifying your point, though I'm still not sure what being a psychologist has to do with the selection and actions of deputies. Frankly, the balance of costs to benefits wobbles back and forth a lot. It's leaning more and more towards costs, so I don't know that I'd recommend becoming a deputy to anyone at this point. But if you were to ask me in a few weeks, who knows?
> I am also dealing with depression, and I am struggling with whether or not to do ECT as it could mean the end of my career.
I know the struggle of depression and how it can impact professional practice. I'm sorry you've had to deal with it, and I hope you find the right treatment for you very soon.
> I don't take anything lightly.
I never thought you did.
Regards,
gg
Posted by Emme on December 14, 2006, at 21:40:36
In reply to Re: For Dr. Bob » emme, posted by Karen44 on December 14, 2006, at 16:26:44
> > > I find it highly insulting to have a student decide if someone's message is okay to be posted
> >
> > Why?
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> she's not a professional; has her own problems; and is in my opinion not in a position to judge.None of us is free of problems. We are all human.
As deputy, she is not acting as a psychologist, psychiatrist, or therapist. The deputies do not squash measured and balanced discussion of meds, straightforward presentation of information, or accounts of personal experiences. They are executing Dr. Bob's site rules wrt civility as outlined in the FAQ. It is a separate thing from their professions.
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2006, at 22:15:07
In reply to Re: Blocked for a week » Karen44, posted by muffled on December 14, 2006, at 17:47:17
> > > I find it highly insulting to have a student decide if someone's message is okay to be posted
>
> she's not a professional; has her own problems; and is in my opinion not in a position to judge.
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> Karen44> Implying that 'her own problems' would interfere with her judgement is dissing someone in my book. And we ALL got problems....
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> MuffledIMO, how relevant training is depends on the specific task. There are guidelines here regarding what kinds of messages are OK, and the deputies have demonstrated that they understand those guidelines. They've been here a long time, they've been able to follow the guidelines themselves, they've been though an orientation (sometimes a long one), and they've even passed a final exam. In a way, they've been "trained" to be deputies. And their actions continue to be subject to review by me.
At the same time, they have problems. And problems can interfere with judgment. But we all have problems, even those of us who are professionals.
This isn't a perfect system, but the community tries to work together and to self-correct, and together I think we've done OK so far.
Bob
Posted by Gabbi~G~ on December 20, 2006, at 16:14:29
In reply to You can't argue with an earworm. ;) (nm) » Gabbi~G~, posted by gardenergirl on December 14, 2006, at 21:23:03
But I forgot where I saw it ;)
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