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Posted by Dr. Bob on July 5, 2004, at 23:17:15
In reply to What? » Dr. Bob, posted by Chuckie on July 5, 2004, at 11:39:18
> I had to defend my own self when he made /me/ feel put down and accused.
1. You don't have to defend yourself.
2. If you choose to, please do so in a civil way.> Read his post... by his own words he doesn't care about what i had to say, and so he wasn't going to bother looking into it.
He said doing some checking just wasn't his thing:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/subs/20040604/msgs/361022.html
That isn't putting you down, is it?
> Is that how one gets away with putting people down around here? So from now on i should couch negative comments in sarcasm so that there's nothing for the moderator to quote?
Could you just not try to put people down? FYI, sarcasm isn't considered civil, either:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Bob
Posted by Chuckie on July 6, 2004, at 11:13:16
In reply to Re: defending yourself, posted by Dr. Bob on July 5, 2004, at 23:17:15
I'm sorry, i'm trying to understand, and i don't.
Not defend myself? You came in to defend him, in the interest of civility and so he wouldn't have his feelings hurt. Yet you let stand his posts, which are positively dripping with derision and sarcasm and which hurt my feelings.
It looks to me like i said stuff straight up, so you had something uncivil to quote, whereas there's nothing uncivil to quote from his posts except his ironic quotation marks and sarcastic way of prefacing his remarks with "please."
So he gets away with it because it's subtle and hard to quote? I can't think you're really saying that you don't see anything uncivil about his posts.
I do apologize for my extremely uncivil outburst this morning. He did it again, only more so, and i had just woken up. I don't know if you can delete my initial response and let the discussion continue, or if you have to do something more drastic. I'm prepared for the consequences and again i sincerely apologize.
-Chuckie
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 6, 2004, at 20:23:02
In reply to Re: defending yourself, posted by Chuckie on July 6, 2004, at 11:13:16
> I'm sorry, i'm trying to understand, and i don't.
Thanks for trying.
> It looks to me like ... there's nothing uncivil to quote from his posts except his ironic quotation marks and sarcastic way of prefacing his remarks with "please."
>
> So he gets away with it because it's subtle and hard to quote?Sarcasm isn't considered civil, but yes, someone may sometimes get away with something.
But two wrongs don't make a right. Try to be patient and not to let them push your buttons? Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dinah on July 6, 2004, at 20:31:37
In reply to Re: defending yourself, posted by Dr. Bob on July 6, 2004, at 20:23:02
Here we go again?
Dr. Bob, perhaps you could consider the problem from a different angle than "allowing your buttons to be pushed".
Maybe something unofficial to people who seem to be in the center of a whirlpool (or whirlpool after whirlpool) without actually breaching the civility guidelines? A "Hey guys, let's be careful out here" or "This is a support board, so let's try to be supportive" applied in response to the poster who isn't quite uncivil?
Posted by 64bowtie on July 11, 2004, at 15:08:50
In reply to Re: defending yourself, posted by Dr. Bob on July 6, 2004, at 20:23:02
>>>Try to be patient and not to let them push your buttons... Thanks,
>
> Bob<<<The illusion is obvious that we are going to suffer some dreadful catastrophe that we can't recover from, ever! But that's only a bad habit I fall prey to all toooo often... I have been encouraged to look at my hands and feet and see what has changed to make me hurt... This was not a "dismissive" type exercise... It was couched that the bad feelings can be updated with the visual cortex to a nuetral position by evaluating the [REALITY] in the here and now, not remaining some sorta left-over of childhood "shoulds and don'ts"... It brought me back from my fogged out state of mind to the here and now... The next time I did it for myself and now, many years later, I no longer waste any time grumbling about shoulda, coulda, woulda...
Rod
Posted by gabbix2 on July 11, 2004, at 22:36:36
In reply to Re: defending yourself » Dr. Bob, posted by 64bowtie on July 11, 2004, at 15:08:50
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