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Posted by rjlockhart37 on July 30, 2014, at 23:46:10
i've been thinking about this, i thought about it again, see....the main thing i know is shock makes some short term memories to black out, not largly but i read that couple times on google search
but i'm thinking at this point there needs to be a electrical increase, my mind is in the slumps and fails to stay up and sharp....
but anyone here please write what it was like and what happened after the treatment? i would love to hear anything.....if i ever plan to get it if things get worse....
r
Posted by poser938 on July 31, 2014, at 10:08:02
In reply to ECT experiences?, posted by rjlockhart37 on July 30, 2014, at 23:46:10
Hi rj,
Ive had ECT. 14 treatments so far. it has affected my short term memory. but it hasnt been that bad. its benefits have far outweighed any drawbacks. my mood has really improved from the ECT. since ive had terrible experience with medications, i think id prefer ECT over antidepressants. the worst side effects ive had are with my last 2 treatments, ive had a headache and stomach ache afterwards that lasted a couple hour.
but i would recommend ECT. it hasnt been a big deal like it is made out to be.
Posted by poser938 on July 31, 2014, at 10:19:06
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by poser938 on July 31, 2014, at 10:08:02
Oh and also, after my last treatment my coordination was off for about 2 hours afterwards. But it all kwent back to normal.
Posted by Phil on July 31, 2014, at 20:28:07
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by poser938 on July 31, 2014, at 10:19:06
i can't remember what doctor said this but he said he would start with ect.
Posted by Zyprexa on August 1, 2014, at 23:18:17
In reply to ECT experiences?, posted by rjlockhart37 on July 30, 2014, at 23:46:10
You will have more electricity in your head, but it will be missfiring, all over the place you will be debilitated. It realy dumbs you down. Its not fun. Won't make you smarter or think clearly. Makes it like you are feble minded. Stick with the meds they can be reversed. I think you are just trying to acive a state of mind like amphetamine. Or maybe to forget about it. You won't be happy after you do it. Just read the posts from the guy on here who is getting ECT, Amd or some thing. Not to put him down but you can tell he is starting to lose function.
Posted by poser938 on August 2, 2014, at 0:20:01
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by Zyprexa on August 1, 2014, at 23:18:17
Oh yeah, Zyprexa?
Im still not in a perfect mood. i still dont function perfectly. i dont have all of my emotions back. but you cant tell sh*t.
Posted by poser938 on August 2, 2014, at 0:34:59
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by Zyprexa on August 1, 2014, at 23:18:17
you can tell he is starting to lose function.
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i wasnt sure if others could tell that im still missing many of my emotions. it made me feel good thinking they couldnt notice. And ive not heard words like yours from anyone. but your words have really done me in.
Posted by johnLA on August 2, 2014, at 11:21:35
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by poser938 on August 2, 2014, at 0:34:59
poser-
hang-in there.
i had ect. i can still function. i've had no brain damage. the depression is much worse than the ect i did.
keep fighting and please don't let what somebody says on a internet site get you down.
lot's of 'experts' here. some are best to just ignore. you know yourself best. trust in yourself and the doctors that you also trust.
john
Posted by Phil on August 2, 2014, at 11:21:56
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by Zyprexa on August 1, 2014, at 23:18:17
some ect people claim lifetime deficits. i have an N=1. it saved my mothers life and she had NOTHING of what you said. nothing. it is a life saver for thousands of people. #2, meds can cause irreversible damage.
my mother had the worst breakdown i have ever seen. at that point, you go straight to ect. there is no waiting on med trials.
i would not get ect for the wrong reasons that's why i do my research. if i need it and i may now, i won't think twice.
there are tons of people that claimed that they were harmed long term by ect. who administered it? there are even more people that claim permanent damage due to meds. what's one to do? i would never rule it out completely by anecdotal 'evidence.'
Posted by Phil on August 2, 2014, at 11:31:30
In reply to ECT experiences?, posted by rjlockhart37 on July 30, 2014, at 23:46:10
i'm not sure what you think is what you should do. this is not something you just do to get your brain buzzing. talk to the menninger clinic in houston, a top rated hospital in all forms of addiction and mental illness or find another highly respected hospital. you are not a doctor. short term memory comes back in most cases. i can't remember sh*t anyway. this isn't a walk in the park. see the best psychiatrists you can afford. you will still have to be on meds afterwards or go for outpatient 'tune up' treatments on a regular basis.
Posted by poser938 on August 2, 2014, at 12:00:42
In reply to Re: ECT experiences? » poser938, posted by johnLA on August 2, 2014, at 11:21:35
Thank you guys.
There are just some things ive had strong emotions about the past few years. basically anything to do with my experiences with psychiatry. and i know to just let some things go in one ear and out the other. but i just get fed sometimes. Ive had a terrible experience with psychiatry, and ive been so happy that ive found a hospital with doctors and a treatment that ive felt good about.
but thank you very for your kind words :)
Posted by europerep on August 2, 2014, at 13:37:00
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by poser938 on August 2, 2014, at 12:00:42
Yeah, don't worry about what Zyprexa said. I'm not even sure whether he meant you, your name doesn't look anything like 'Amd'.
And in any case, what you've said about your ECT experience so far looked perfectly reasonable and "sane" to me. And Phil is right, not all posts here are to be taken at face value...
ER
Posted by Christ_empowered on August 2, 2014, at 16:25:05
In reply to Re: ECT experiences? » poser938, posted by europerep on August 2, 2014, at 13:37:00
My ECT (involuntary) was disastrous, but...it was also aggressive.
Outpatient, with docs who don't despise you, might be OK. I dunno.
Posted by baseball55 on August 2, 2014, at 19:27:44
In reply to ECT experiences?, posted by rjlockhart37 on July 30, 2014, at 23:46:10
> but i'm thinking at this point there needs to be a electrical increase, my mind is in the slumps and fails to stay up and sharp....
You've written this before about your brain not firing right and I truly don't know what you mean. Have you had an EEG? Does it show electrical abnormalities? (if it did, this would indicate seizure activity). I don't know of any theory of mental illness that poses some electrical misfiring.
Posted by poser938 on August 2, 2014, at 20:13:20
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by Christ_empowered on August 2, 2014, at 16:25:05
Well, my experience has really been a surprise to me. i went in there with the idea that this is my last shot. it could very well be a disaster with me having brain damage from it. but it has been the opposite. yeah ive had effects on my memory along with the twmporary effects on my coordination and stomach and headache. it hasnt made my mood conpletely better yet. but i do notice more details in things now. its hard to explain, but ive really enjoyed it.
my favorite thing about ECT is that is doesnt feel like some unnatural, forced alteration of your mood, like what i experience with meds. no buzz from it. or numbing of your emotions.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on August 5, 2014, at 13:18:31
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by Zyprexa on August 1, 2014, at 23:18:17
the reason is my psychologist told me that when meds are not effective, there's 2 things, either the body has developed a tolerance, which that ... doesnt make sense, because all the meds i've taken they worked and now the body adapted and went back to it's original state with no meds....it's difficult because sometimes they do work, with mood, but there's times i take nuvigil and nothing, and then 3 days later it has an effect, it's canceling out the meds.....
but 2nd he told me there's low brain voltage, and that sometiems can result into deep depression with electical firing being sigifantly lowered....and it has to have a jump start.....which 1 is the shock, but there are other newer ways to do this that are less harsh....
i don't think im gonna do it right now, 1 the doctor would have to approve, and there's not much of anything that it would help
r
Posted by rjlockhart37 on August 5, 2014, at 13:27:18
In reply to Re: ECT experiences? » Zyprexa, posted by Phil on August 2, 2014, at 11:21:56
the thing is body adapts to the meds and cacels them out.....thats all the issue im facing, this piece of crap called a body needs to be wasted and get a new one....
Posted by rjlockhart37 on August 5, 2014, at 13:28:06
In reply to Re: ECT experiences? » rjlockhart37, posted by baseball55 on August 2, 2014, at 19:27:44
i'll have to see about that....still there's other options on increasing the electrical transmission in the brain
Posted by baseball55 on August 7, 2014, at 20:01:09
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by rjlockhart37 on August 5, 2014, at 13:18:31
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> but 2nd he told me there's low brain voltage, and that sometiems can result into deep depression with electical firing being sigifantly lowered....and it has to have a jump start.....which 1 is the shock, but there are other newer ways to do this that are less harsh....
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> i don't think im gonna do it right now, 1 the doctor would have to approve, and there's not much of anything that it would helpI think your psychologist is full of s**t. The "voltage" of your brain can be measured by an EEG. Have you talked to a neurologist about this? A psychiatrist? Someone who actually knows something about the brain?
ECT isn't going to increase your brain voltage, whatever that even means. ECT causes you to have a seizure. For reasons not at all understood, this sometimes relieves depression and severe anxiety. Do you suffer from severe depression or anxiety?
Posted by Christ_empowered on August 8, 2014, at 9:39:38
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by baseball55 on August 7, 2014, at 20:01:09
I'm with baseball. Psychologists are sometimes worse than psychiatrists. Watch this one.
Posted by Lamdage22 on August 19, 2014, at 14:20:23
In reply to Re: ECT experiences?, posted by Christ_empowered on August 8, 2014, at 9:39:38
All i can say is don't do it.
I have come across several people who underwent ECT.
It is some sort of weird self-punishing impulse i suppose?
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