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Posted by Phillipa on December 22, 2012, at 20:26:54
In reply to Lou's response-psehyvdhalazpoehz » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on December 22, 2012, at 12:27:38
Lou last post saved for you. Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 10:46:47
In reply to Lou's response-correction, posted by Lou Pilder on December 22, 2012, at 10:14:16
> > > > Hello, Its been a few years since posting here.
> > > >
> > > > During the past 12 or so years, I've been diagnosed with Depression, add (inattentive type) and social anxiety. Im currently on generic effexor xr 150, generic klonopin 1mg up to twice per day and adderral 15mg up to twice a day. I've been on this cocktail for about 7 years with very few changes. I went up on the effexor in the past but always went back down to 150mg because of jittery feelings on higher doses. I visited my primary doc today and explained that I have little emotion anymore. I look forward to nothing and get little enjoyment out of life and have been feeling very depressed lately. He asked if i was suicidal. I said no but i constantly feel like a robot and that my life is pointless.
> > > >
> > > > I asked about increasing Effexor dose or possibly supplementing something else in the mix. He was ready to kick up Effexor to 300mg then asked if I've heard about Pristiq. I did not. He said he had a lot of patients that pooped out on Effexor, successfully transfer with little or no side effect (compared to Effexor). He said he would prescribe Prestiq 100mg for a month to see how I respond. He said its like 300mg of Effexor. I told him I got nasty withdrawals when running out or trying to stop Effexor in the past (brain zaps, feelings of going insane, sweating, etc.). He said not to worry, because they are in the same family and I should not experience any of this.
> > > >
> > > > When I got home, I researched immediately. First, I see most people would go from 150 mg Effexor to 50mg Pristiq to start. I already purchased the 100mg Pristiq pills. Since they are tabs, I thought I could just split the pills (if 100mg is too much too fast). Several posts on other websites explicitly warn against splitting these tabs because of their slow release properties. Most of the posts on this website concerning Effexor to Pristiq appear to be several years old, so I was hoping to get some up-to-date info. Please forgive me if there are current discussions with same exact info (I tried to find them). Thank you!
> > > >
> > > > P.S. for what it's worth, I credit Effexor, in part, to saving my career and family. As bad as i feel at times, I don't think I could have coped without it. Same with the Klonopin (although I usually only take one pill at night)
> > >
> > > in_denial,
> > > You wrote,[...Effexor...Pristiq...hoping to get some..info...].
> > > The info that I could give you could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions/addiction and prevent you from being induced into a mind-altered state to compel you to kill yourself and/or others, even commit mass-murder.
> > > But I am prevented here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung to post this educational material, even though the forum is for support and education. This repression of my speech here could lead to the deaths of innocent people and lead to a lifetime of suffereing and misery from mind-altering chemicals that are promoted by mass media even though the evidence mounts against these drugs on a daily basis to show that they can cause people to kill innocent people and addict the taker of the drugs in a manner that would be criminal if one took cocaine or other illegal drugs. Yet today, your psychiatris/doctor can leagally give you an addictive drug that could kill you and cause you to kill others.
> > > Here are some links to some threads with what I was trying to tell people here before the prohibition to me from Mr Hsiung was posted.
> > > Do you think that Effexor/Pristiq are new drugs or are they just knock-offs of old drugs?
> > > If you could go through the threads here and post in those threads, then I could offer you more info that IMHHHHO could lead you out of the darkness of depression/addiction and into a marvelous light.
> > > You could see that Mr Hsiung is allowing defamation toward me here to be posted including scapegaoting, antisemitic statements are allowed to stand, and you could find other prohibitions posted to me and that a NY Times writer writes that Mr Hsiung is a mastermind here, but it does not take a mastermind to allow antisemitism to be posted here, only that good members do nothing. If you read what I am posting there could be a new life for you, a new life free from the ravages of mind-altering chemicals that come from nerve-agents before 1933 that are used to kill, and you could be led to your death from the drugs. Others could tell you to take more drugs here. If that is what you want, then reject this opportunity to learn from me.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1010788.html
> > > These have prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me to post here by the link. You can see them by going to the bottom of this page and type in the search box;
> > > [babble,1009893]
> > > [babble,1009623]
> >
> > Friends,
> > If you are a parent of loved one visiting this site in order to make more-informed decision as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor, there is a unfolding body of facts, facts that could mark the difference between your child being alive or dead or kill innocent people, that many prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me here prevent me from helping you to make that decision even though your child could die from these drugs promoted here or kill others.
> > Here is a video that I think could offer you facts to help you decide if you want to drug your child which could be for life, a life that could include addiction, depression, heart attack,diabetes,liver failure, blood disease, tardive dyskinesia which could be a life-long condition of misery and other life-runining conditions and death.
> > Lou
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCPK
>
> Friends, There is another prohibition to me here from Mr Hsiung concerning posting of links to educational material that could have a prohibited word in a discussion. This is why I do not post links here, even to posts that are from here, for they could contain the prohibition.
> Here is a way to see a video that I use here so that a link is not posted.
> Lou
> To see this video:
> A. Bring up Google
> B. Type in:
> [youtube, can antidepressants cause violence]
> This is by Dr Moira Dolan MD. You will see her picture. Be advised that some people here that promote mind-altering chemicals could disagree with Dr Dolan. But are they just ignoring the facts?Friends,
If you are interested in this discussion, I am requesting that you view the following video.
This video could save your life and cause you to seek a new life, free from psychiatric drugs. And I am here to save lives, to lead peope out of the darkness of depression and addiction and to prevent people from getting a life-ruinig condition or be induced by th drug to kill themselves or other innocent people.
You could follow Scott and Phillipa who could be disagreeing with facts, you could follow Mr Hsiung that allows Jews here to be attacked. But don't forget whose grave you could cause others to see, so members, save the last post for me.
Lou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlDfcc5Z3w
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 10:56:14
In reply to Lou's response-psbellbown, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 10:46:47
> > > > > Hello, Its been a few years since posting here.
> > > > >
> > > > > During the past 12 or so years, I've been diagnosed with Depression, add (inattentive type) and social anxiety. Im currently on generic effexor xr 150, generic klonopin 1mg up to twice per day and adderral 15mg up to twice a day. I've been on this cocktail for about 7 years with very few changes. I went up on the effexor in the past but always went back down to 150mg because of jittery feelings on higher doses. I visited my primary doc today and explained that I have little emotion anymore. I look forward to nothing and get little enjoyment out of life and have been feeling very depressed lately. He asked if i was suicidal. I said no but i constantly feel like a robot and that my life is pointless.
> > > > >
> > > > > I asked about increasing Effexor dose or possibly supplementing something else in the mix. He was ready to kick up Effexor to 300mg then asked if I've heard about Pristiq. I did not. He said he had a lot of patients that pooped out on Effexor, successfully transfer with little or no side effect (compared to Effexor). He said he would prescribe Prestiq 100mg for a month to see how I respond. He said its like 300mg of Effexor. I told him I got nasty withdrawals when running out or trying to stop Effexor in the past (brain zaps, feelings of going insane, sweating, etc.). He said not to worry, because they are in the same family and I should not experience any of this.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I got home, I researched immediately. First, I see most people would go from 150 mg Effexor to 50mg Pristiq to start. I already purchased the 100mg Pristiq pills. Since they are tabs, I thought I could just split the pills (if 100mg is too much too fast). Several posts on other websites explicitly warn against splitting these tabs because of their slow release properties. Most of the posts on this website concerning Effexor to Pristiq appear to be several years old, so I was hoping to get some up-to-date info. Please forgive me if there are current discussions with same exact info (I tried to find them). Thank you!
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. for what it's worth, I credit Effexor, in part, to saving my career and family. As bad as i feel at times, I don't think I could have coped without it. Same with the Klonopin (although I usually only take one pill at night)
> > > >
> > > > in_denial,
> > > > You wrote,[...Effexor...Pristiq...hoping to get some..info...].
> > > > The info that I could give you could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions/addiction and prevent you from being induced into a mind-altered state to compel you to kill yourself and/or others, even commit mass-murder.
> > > > But I am prevented here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung to post this educational material, even though the forum is for support and education. This repression of my speech here could lead to the deaths of innocent people and lead to a lifetime of suffereing and misery from mind-altering chemicals that are promoted by mass media even though the evidence mounts against these drugs on a daily basis to show that they can cause people to kill innocent people and addict the taker of the drugs in a manner that would be criminal if one took cocaine or other illegal drugs. Yet today, your psychiatris/doctor can leagally give you an addictive drug that could kill you and cause you to kill others.
> > > > Here are some links to some threads with what I was trying to tell people here before the prohibition to me from Mr Hsiung was posted.
> > > > Do you think that Effexor/Pristiq are new drugs or are they just knock-offs of old drugs?
> > > > If you could go through the threads here and post in those threads, then I could offer you more info that IMHHHHO could lead you out of the darkness of depression/addiction and into a marvelous light.
> > > > You could see that Mr Hsiung is allowing defamation toward me here to be posted including scapegaoting, antisemitic statements are allowed to stand, and you could find other prohibitions posted to me and that a NY Times writer writes that Mr Hsiung is a mastermind here, but it does not take a mastermind to allow antisemitism to be posted here, only that good members do nothing. If you read what I am posting there could be a new life for you, a new life free from the ravages of mind-altering chemicals that come from nerve-agents before 1933 that are used to kill, and you could be led to your death from the drugs. Others could tell you to take more drugs here. If that is what you want, then reject this opportunity to learn from me.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1010788.html
> > > > These have prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me to post here by the link. You can see them by going to the bottom of this page and type in the search box;
> > > > [babble,1009893]
> > > > [babble,1009623]
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > If you are a parent of loved one visiting this site in order to make more-informed decision as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor, there is a unfolding body of facts, facts that could mark the difference between your child being alive or dead or kill innocent people, that many prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me here prevent me from helping you to make that decision even though your child could die from these drugs promoted here or kill others.
> > > Here is a video that I think could offer you facts to help you decide if you want to drug your child which could be for life, a life that could include addiction, depression, heart attack,diabetes,liver failure, blood disease, tardive dyskinesia which could be a life-long condition of misery and other life-runining conditions and death.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCPK
> >
> > Friends, There is another prohibition to me here from Mr Hsiung concerning posting of links to educational material that could have a prohibited word in a discussion. This is why I do not post links here, even to posts that are from here, for they could contain the prohibition.
> > Here is a way to see a video that I use here so that a link is not posted.
> > Lou
> > To see this video:
> > A. Bring up Google
> > B. Type in:
> > [youtube, can antidepressants cause violence]
> > This is by Dr Moira Dolan MD. You will see her picture. Be advised that some people here that promote mind-altering chemicals could disagree with Dr Dolan. But are they just ignoring the facts?
>
> Friends,
> If you are interested in this discussion, I am requesting that you view the following video.
> This video could save your life and cause you to seek a new life, free from psychiatric drugs. And I am here to save lives, to lead peope out of the darkness of depression and addiction and to prevent people from getting a life-ruinig condition or be induced by th drug to kill themselves or other innocent people.
> You could follow Scott and Phillipa who could be disagreeing with facts, you could follow Mr Hsiung that allows Jews here to be attacked. But don't forget whose grave you could cause others to see, so members, save the last post for me.
> Lou
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlDfcc5Z3wcorrection;
to see this video;
Lou
A. Pull up Google
B. Type in:
[youtube, Dr Peter Breggin, medication spellbinding]
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 11:09:17
In reply to correction- Lou's response-psbellbown, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 10:56:14
> > > > > > Hello, Its been a few years since posting here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > During the past 12 or so years, I've been diagnosed with Depression, add (inattentive type) and social anxiety. Im currently on generic effexor xr 150, generic klonopin 1mg up to twice per day and adderral 15mg up to twice a day. I've been on this cocktail for about 7 years with very few changes. I went up on the effexor in the past but always went back down to 150mg because of jittery feelings on higher doses. I visited my primary doc today and explained that I have little emotion anymore. I look forward to nothing and get little enjoyment out of life and have been feeling very depressed lately. He asked if i was suicidal. I said no but i constantly feel like a robot and that my life is pointless.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I asked about increasing Effexor dose or possibly supplementing something else in the mix. He was ready to kick up Effexor to 300mg then asked if I've heard about Pristiq. I did not. He said he had a lot of patients that pooped out on Effexor, successfully transfer with little or no side effect (compared to Effexor). He said he would prescribe Prestiq 100mg for a month to see how I respond. He said its like 300mg of Effexor. I told him I got nasty withdrawals when running out or trying to stop Effexor in the past (brain zaps, feelings of going insane, sweating, etc.). He said not to worry, because they are in the same family and I should not experience any of this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I got home, I researched immediately. First, I see most people would go from 150 mg Effexor to 50mg Pristiq to start. I already purchased the 100mg Pristiq pills. Since they are tabs, I thought I could just split the pills (if 100mg is too much too fast). Several posts on other websites explicitly warn against splitting these tabs because of their slow release properties. Most of the posts on this website concerning Effexor to Pristiq appear to be several years old, so I was hoping to get some up-to-date info. Please forgive me if there are current discussions with same exact info (I tried to find them). Thank you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > P.S. for what it's worth, I credit Effexor, in part, to saving my career and family. As bad as i feel at times, I don't think I could have coped without it. Same with the Klonopin (although I usually only take one pill at night)
> > > > >
> > > > > in_denial,
> > > > > You wrote,[...Effexor...Pristiq...hoping to get some..info...].
> > > > > The info that I could give you could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions/addiction and prevent you from being induced into a mind-altered state to compel you to kill yourself and/or others, even commit mass-murder.
> > > > > But I am prevented here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung to post this educational material, even though the forum is for support and education. This repression of my speech here could lead to the deaths of innocent people and lead to a lifetime of suffereing and misery from mind-altering chemicals that are promoted by mass media even though the evidence mounts against these drugs on a daily basis to show that they can cause people to kill innocent people and addict the taker of the drugs in a manner that would be criminal if one took cocaine or other illegal drugs. Yet today, your psychiatris/doctor can leagally give you an addictive drug that could kill you and cause you to kill others.
> > > > > Here are some links to some threads with what I was trying to tell people here before the prohibition to me from Mr Hsiung was posted.
> > > > > Do you think that Effexor/Pristiq are new drugs or are they just knock-offs of old drugs?
> > > > > If you could go through the threads here and post in those threads, then I could offer you more info that IMHHHHO could lead you out of the darkness of depression/addiction and into a marvelous light.
> > > > > You could see that Mr Hsiung is allowing defamation toward me here to be posted including scapegaoting, antisemitic statements are allowed to stand, and you could find other prohibitions posted to me and that a NY Times writer writes that Mr Hsiung is a mastermind here, but it does not take a mastermind to allow antisemitism to be posted here, only that good members do nothing. If you read what I am posting there could be a new life for you, a new life free from the ravages of mind-altering chemicals that come from nerve-agents before 1933 that are used to kill, and you could be led to your death from the drugs. Others could tell you to take more drugs here. If that is what you want, then reject this opportunity to learn from me.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1010788.html
> > > > > These have prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me to post here by the link. You can see them by going to the bottom of this page and type in the search box;
> > > > > [babble,1009893]
> > > > > [babble,1009623]
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > If you are a parent of loved one visiting this site in order to make more-informed decision as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor, there is a unfolding body of facts, facts that could mark the difference between your child being alive or dead or kill innocent people, that many prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me here prevent me from helping you to make that decision even though your child could die from these drugs promoted here or kill others.
> > > > Here is a video that I think could offer you facts to help you decide if you want to drug your child which could be for life, a life that could include addiction, depression, heart attack,diabetes,liver failure, blood disease, tardive dyskinesia which could be a life-long condition of misery and other life-runining conditions and death.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCPK
> > >
> > > Friends, There is another prohibition to me here from Mr Hsiung concerning posting of links to educational material that could have a prohibited word in a discussion. This is why I do not post links here, even to posts that are from here, for they could contain the prohibition.
> > > Here is a way to see a video that I use here so that a link is not posted.
> > > Lou
> > > To see this video:
> > > A. Bring up Google
> > > B. Type in:
> > > [youtube, can antidepressants cause violence]
> > > This is by Dr Moira Dolan MD. You will see her picture. Be advised that some people here that promote mind-altering chemicals could disagree with Dr Dolan. But are they just ignoring the facts?
> >
> > Friends,
> > If you are interested in this discussion, I am requesting that you view the following video.
> > This video could save your life and cause you to seek a new life, free from psychiatric drugs. And I am here to save lives, to lead peope out of the darkness of depression and addiction and to prevent people from getting a life-ruinig condition or be induced by th drug to kill themselves or other innocent people.
> > You could follow Scott and Phillipa who could be disagreeing with facts, you could follow Mr Hsiung that allows Jews here to be attacked. But don't forget whose grave you could cause others to see, so members, save the last post for me.
> > Lou
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlDfcc5Z3w
>
> correction;
> to see this video;
> Lou
> A. Pull up Google
> B. Type in:
> [youtube, Dr Peter Breggin, medication spellbinding]friends,
A better search...
A. Go to Google
B. Type in:
[youtube, DR Peter Breggin, Simple truths about psychiatry, What is medication spellbinding, #3]
Posted by SLS on December 23, 2012, at 11:17:01
In reply to Lou's response-psbellbown, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 10:46:47
> You could follow Scott and Phillipa who could be disagreeing with facts,
It "could be" that I am disagreeing with your representation of those things that you would characterize as facts, but for which you have no proof.
> you could follow Mr Hsiung that allows Jews here to be attacked.
Has he allowed any non-Jews to be attacked? If so, perhaps that leaves Dr. Hsiung as being an equal opportunity moderator.
Gosh. How is what you have written here not considered libel and defamation of character? You must surely have the proof you need to make such statements, right?
- Scott
Posted by SLS on December 23, 2012, at 11:27:12
In reply to correction- 2-Lou's response-psbellbown, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 11:09:17
Breggin?
I hope you haven't forgotten about Kirsch and Whitaker.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on December 23, 2012, at 11:33:06
In reply to Proof? » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on December 23, 2012, at 11:27:12
> Breggin?
>
> I hope you haven't forgotten about Kirsch and Whitaker.Oops. I completely forgot about Glenmullen. Sorry.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 11:46:22
In reply to correction- 2-Lou's response-psbellbown, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 11:09:17
> > > > > > > Hello, Its been a few years since posting here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > During the past 12 or so years, I've been diagnosed with Depression, add (inattentive type) and social anxiety. Im currently on generic effexor xr 150, generic klonopin 1mg up to twice per day and adderral 15mg up to twice a day. I've been on this cocktail for about 7 years with very few changes. I went up on the effexor in the past but always went back down to 150mg because of jittery feelings on higher doses. I visited my primary doc today and explained that I have little emotion anymore. I look forward to nothing and get little enjoyment out of life and have been feeling very depressed lately. He asked if i was suicidal. I said no but i constantly feel like a robot and that my life is pointless.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I asked about increasing Effexor dose or possibly supplementing something else in the mix. He was ready to kick up Effexor to 300mg then asked if I've heard about Pristiq. I did not. He said he had a lot of patients that pooped out on Effexor, successfully transfer with little or no side effect (compared to Effexor). He said he would prescribe Prestiq 100mg for a month to see how I respond. He said its like 300mg of Effexor. I told him I got nasty withdrawals when running out or trying to stop Effexor in the past (brain zaps, feelings of going insane, sweating, etc.). He said not to worry, because they are in the same family and I should not experience any of this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I got home, I researched immediately. First, I see most people would go from 150 mg Effexor to 50mg Pristiq to start. I already purchased the 100mg Pristiq pills. Since they are tabs, I thought I could just split the pills (if 100mg is too much too fast). Several posts on other websites explicitly warn against splitting these tabs because of their slow release properties. Most of the posts on this website concerning Effexor to Pristiq appear to be several years old, so I was hoping to get some up-to-date info. Please forgive me if there are current discussions with same exact info (I tried to find them). Thank you!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > P.S. for what it's worth, I credit Effexor, in part, to saving my career and family. As bad as i feel at times, I don't think I could have coped without it. Same with the Klonopin (although I usually only take one pill at night)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > in_denial,
> > > > > > You wrote,[...Effexor...Pristiq...hoping to get some..info...].
> > > > > > The info that I could give you could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions/addiction and prevent you from being induced into a mind-altered state to compel you to kill yourself and/or others, even commit mass-murder.
> > > > > > But I am prevented here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung to post this educational material, even though the forum is for support and education. This repression of my speech here could lead to the deaths of innocent people and lead to a lifetime of suffereing and misery from mind-altering chemicals that are promoted by mass media even though the evidence mounts against these drugs on a daily basis to show that they can cause people to kill innocent people and addict the taker of the drugs in a manner that would be criminal if one took cocaine or other illegal drugs. Yet today, your psychiatris/doctor can leagally give you an addictive drug that could kill you and cause you to kill others.
> > > > > > Here are some links to some threads with what I was trying to tell people here before the prohibition to me from Mr Hsiung was posted.
> > > > > > Do you think that Effexor/Pristiq are new drugs or are they just knock-offs of old drugs?
> > > > > > If you could go through the threads here and post in those threads, then I could offer you more info that IMHHHHO could lead you out of the darkness of depression/addiction and into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > You could see that Mr Hsiung is allowing defamation toward me here to be posted including scapegaoting, antisemitic statements are allowed to stand, and you could find other prohibitions posted to me and that a NY Times writer writes that Mr Hsiung is a mastermind here, but it does not take a mastermind to allow antisemitism to be posted here, only that good members do nothing. If you read what I am posting there could be a new life for you, a new life free from the ravages of mind-altering chemicals that come from nerve-agents before 1933 that are used to kill, and you could be led to your death from the drugs. Others could tell you to take more drugs here. If that is what you want, then reject this opportunity to learn from me.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1010788.html
> > > > > > These have prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me to post here by the link. You can see them by going to the bottom of this page and type in the search box;
> > > > > > [babble,1009893]
> > > > > > [babble,1009623]
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > If you are a parent of loved one visiting this site in order to make more-informed decision as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor, there is a unfolding body of facts, facts that could mark the difference between your child being alive or dead or kill innocent people, that many prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me here prevent me from helping you to make that decision even though your child could die from these drugs promoted here or kill others.
> > > > > Here is a video that I think could offer you facts to help you decide if you want to drug your child which could be for life, a life that could include addiction, depression, heart attack,diabetes,liver failure, blood disease, tardive dyskinesia which could be a life-long condition of misery and other life-runining conditions and death.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCPK
> > > >
> > > > Friends, There is another prohibition to me here from Mr Hsiung concerning posting of links to educational material that could have a prohibited word in a discussion. This is why I do not post links here, even to posts that are from here, for they could contain the prohibition.
> > > > Here is a way to see a video that I use here so that a link is not posted.
> > > > Lou
> > > > To see this video:
> > > > A. Bring up Google
> > > > B. Type in:
> > > > [youtube, can antidepressants cause violence]
> > > > This is by Dr Moira Dolan MD. You will see her picture. Be advised that some people here that promote mind-altering chemicals could disagree with Dr Dolan. But are they just ignoring the facts?
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > If you are interested in this discussion, I am requesting that you view the following video.
> > > This video could save your life and cause you to seek a new life, free from psychiatric drugs. And I am here to save lives, to lead peope out of the darkness of depression and addiction and to prevent people from getting a life-ruinig condition or be induced by th drug to kill themselves or other innocent people.
> > > You could follow Scott and Phillipa who could be disagreeing with facts, you could follow Mr Hsiung that allows Jews here to be attacked. But don't forget whose grave you could cause others to see, so members, save the last post for me.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlDfcc5Z3w
> >
> > correction;
> > to see this video;
> > Lou
> > A. Pull up Google
> > B. Type in:
> > [youtube, Dr Peter Breggin, medication spellbinding]
>
> friends,
> A better search...
> A. Go to Google
> B. Type in:
> [youtube, DR Peter Breggin, Simple truths about psychiatry, What is medication spellbinding, #3]Friends,
You may be trying to make a decision from reading here as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor or to consider that your life is ruined from psychotropic drugs and want a way out.
And what you could see here is an ongoing attack against me and to Judaism. This attack is encouraged by Mr Hsiung that uses the epithet against me {The Prince of Death}, which is a title for Satan, and his deputy (s) by the nature that they are allowing antisemitic statements to stand which could induce an indoctrination by them controlling the content and declaring to the members what is supportive and civil by allowing or not allowing what they want to be posted here. There is nothing new about this tactic, for it is thousands of years old. But to be carried out here could cause the deaths of children and others and cause the flame of hatred toward the Jews to spread throughout the world. This is accomplished by allowing statements that accuse Jews of the crime of deicide and prohibiting me from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me. Here in the following post it is considered supportive and civil to write,[...made to suffer a horrible death by {them}...], which in context is the Jews. This brings up that people on psychiatric drugs could be induced to kill a Jew or defame them, or discriminate against them or to post as in here posts of hatred toward me, a Jew, including scapegoating and statements that they leave here because of what I post. After all, the statements allowed to stand could be thought to be the party-line here and supportive and civil since they are not sanctioned as I would be if I posted the foundation of Judaism here. But I am posting facts, facts that could mark the difference between you or your child being a live person or corpse, facts that could allow children to live, facts that could prevent innocent children from being murdered by those on a drug-induced rampage of death.
What would it take for members here to post in the threads on the administrative board that have statements being allowed to stand that attack the Jews? And what do any of you gain by promoting mind-altering drugs that could cause life-ruining conditions and death and the deaths of innocent people? There were 42,000 people that died from these drugs just last year alone. How many more deaths are going to be allowed from these drugs before people stop pretending that they just don't see? How long will the flame of hatred toward the Jews be allowed to stand here before members post in those threads that it is wrong for the statements to be allowed to stand by Mr Hsiung and his deputy? Do you not undrstand that hate and murder go together like a horse and carriage?
Here is the post. In the last paragraph by the poster, it is written,[...made to suffer a horrible death by {them}...].
This is only one post that attacks the Jews here that is allowed to stand. Supportive? Supportive of what.
This allowing of antisemitic statements to stand could cause some to discredit what I write here to save lives. But I am trying to save lives, what are you trying to do?
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/1004107.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 12:58:28
In reply to Lou's response-pstpdaheyt, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 11:46:22
> > > > > > > > Hello, Its been a few years since posting here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > During the past 12 or so years, I've been diagnosed with Depression, add (inattentive type) and social anxiety. Im currently on generic effexor xr 150, generic klonopin 1mg up to twice per day and adderral 15mg up to twice a day. I've been on this cocktail for about 7 years with very few changes. I went up on the effexor in the past but always went back down to 150mg because of jittery feelings on higher doses. I visited my primary doc today and explained that I have little emotion anymore. I look forward to nothing and get little enjoyment out of life and have been feeling very depressed lately. He asked if i was suicidal. I said no but i constantly feel like a robot and that my life is pointless.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I asked about increasing Effexor dose or possibly supplementing something else in the mix. He was ready to kick up Effexor to 300mg then asked if I've heard about Pristiq. I did not. He said he had a lot of patients that pooped out on Effexor, successfully transfer with little or no side effect (compared to Effexor). He said he would prescribe Prestiq 100mg for a month to see how I respond. He said its like 300mg of Effexor. I told him I got nasty withdrawals when running out or trying to stop Effexor in the past (brain zaps, feelings of going insane, sweating, etc.). He said not to worry, because they are in the same family and I should not experience any of this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When I got home, I researched immediately. First, I see most people would go from 150 mg Effexor to 50mg Pristiq to start. I already purchased the 100mg Pristiq pills. Since they are tabs, I thought I could just split the pills (if 100mg is too much too fast). Several posts on other websites explicitly warn against splitting these tabs because of their slow release properties. Most of the posts on this website concerning Effexor to Pristiq appear to be several years old, so I was hoping to get some up-to-date info. Please forgive me if there are current discussions with same exact info (I tried to find them). Thank you!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > P.S. for what it's worth, I credit Effexor, in part, to saving my career and family. As bad as i feel at times, I don't think I could have coped without it. Same with the Klonopin (although I usually only take one pill at night)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in_denial,
> > > > > > > You wrote,[...Effexor...Pristiq...hoping to get some..info...].
> > > > > > > The info that I could give you could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions/addiction and prevent you from being induced into a mind-altered state to compel you to kill yourself and/or others, even commit mass-murder.
> > > > > > > But I am prevented here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung to post this educational material, even though the forum is for support and education. This repression of my speech here could lead to the deaths of innocent people and lead to a lifetime of suffereing and misery from mind-altering chemicals that are promoted by mass media even though the evidence mounts against these drugs on a daily basis to show that they can cause people to kill innocent people and addict the taker of the drugs in a manner that would be criminal if one took cocaine or other illegal drugs. Yet today, your psychiatris/doctor can leagally give you an addictive drug that could kill you and cause you to kill others.
> > > > > > > Here are some links to some threads with what I was trying to tell people here before the prohibition to me from Mr Hsiung was posted.
> > > > > > > Do you think that Effexor/Pristiq are new drugs or are they just knock-offs of old drugs?
> > > > > > > If you could go through the threads here and post in those threads, then I could offer you more info that IMHHHHO could lead you out of the darkness of depression/addiction and into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > You could see that Mr Hsiung is allowing defamation toward me here to be posted including scapegaoting, antisemitic statements are allowed to stand, and you could find other prohibitions posted to me and that a NY Times writer writes that Mr Hsiung is a mastermind here, but it does not take a mastermind to allow antisemitism to be posted here, only that good members do nothing. If you read what I am posting there could be a new life for you, a new life free from the ravages of mind-altering chemicals that come from nerve-agents before 1933 that are used to kill, and you could be led to your death from the drugs. Others could tell you to take more drugs here. If that is what you want, then reject this opportunity to learn from me.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1010788.html
> > > > > > > These have prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me to post here by the link. You can see them by going to the bottom of this page and type in the search box;
> > > > > > > [babble,1009893]
> > > > > > > [babble,1009623]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > If you are a parent of loved one visiting this site in order to make more-informed decision as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor, there is a unfolding body of facts, facts that could mark the difference between your child being alive or dead or kill innocent people, that many prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me here prevent me from helping you to make that decision even though your child could die from these drugs promoted here or kill others.
> > > > > > Here is a video that I think could offer you facts to help you decide if you want to drug your child which could be for life, a life that could include addiction, depression, heart attack,diabetes,liver failure, blood disease, tardive dyskinesia which could be a life-long condition of misery and other life-runining conditions and death.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCPK
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends, There is another prohibition to me here from Mr Hsiung concerning posting of links to educational material that could have a prohibited word in a discussion. This is why I do not post links here, even to posts that are from here, for they could contain the prohibition.
> > > > > Here is a way to see a video that I use here so that a link is not posted.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > To see this video:
> > > > > A. Bring up Google
> > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > [youtube, can antidepressants cause violence]
> > > > > This is by Dr Moira Dolan MD. You will see her picture. Be advised that some people here that promote mind-altering chemicals could disagree with Dr Dolan. But are they just ignoring the facts?
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > If you are interested in this discussion, I am requesting that you view the following video.
> > > > This video could save your life and cause you to seek a new life, free from psychiatric drugs. And I am here to save lives, to lead peope out of the darkness of depression and addiction and to prevent people from getting a life-ruinig condition or be induced by th drug to kill themselves or other innocent people.
> > > > You could follow Scott and Phillipa who could be disagreeing with facts, you could follow Mr Hsiung that allows Jews here to be attacked. But don't forget whose grave you could cause others to see, so members, save the last post for me.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlDfcc5Z3w
> > >
> > > correction;
> > > to see this video;
> > > Lou
> > > A. Pull up Google
> > > B. Type in:
> > > [youtube, Dr Peter Breggin, medication spellbinding]
> >
> > friends,
> > A better search...
> > A. Go to Google
> > B. Type in:
> > [youtube, DR Peter Breggin, Simple truths about psychiatry, What is medication spellbinding, #3]
>
> Friends,
> You may be trying to make a decision from reading here as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor or to consider that your life is ruined from psychotropic drugs and want a way out.
> And what you could see here is an ongoing attack against me and to Judaism. This attack is encouraged by Mr Hsiung that uses the epithet against me {The Prince of Death}, which is a title for Satan, and his deputy (s) by the nature that they are allowing antisemitic statements to stand which could induce an indoctrination by them controlling the content and declaring to the members what is supportive and civil by allowing or not allowing what they want to be posted here. There is nothing new about this tactic, for it is thousands of years old. But to be carried out here could cause the deaths of children and others and cause the flame of hatred toward the Jews to spread throughout the world. This is accomplished by allowing statements that accuse Jews of the crime of deicide and prohibiting me from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me. Here in the following post it is considered supportive and civil to write,[...made to suffer a horrible death by {them}...], which in context is the Jews. This brings up that people on psychiatric drugs could be induced to kill a Jew or defame them, or discriminate against them or to post as in here posts of hatred toward me, a Jew, including scapegoating and statements that they leave here because of what I post. After all, the statements allowed to stand could be thought to be the party-line here and supportive and civil since they are not sanctioned as I would be if I posted the foundation of Judaism here. But I am posting facts, facts that could mark the difference between you or your child being a live person or corpse, facts that could allow children to live, facts that could prevent innocent children from being murdered by those on a drug-induced rampage of death.
> What would it take for members here to post in the threads on the administrative board that have statements being allowed to stand that attack the Jews? And what do any of you gain by promoting mind-altering drugs that could cause life-ruining conditions and death and the deaths of innocent people? There were 42,000 people that died from these drugs just last year alone. How many more deaths are going to be allowed from these drugs before people stop pretending that they just don't see? How long will the flame of hatred toward the Jews be allowed to stand here before members post in those threads that it is wrong for the statements to be allowed to stand by Mr Hsiung and his deputy? Do you not undrstand that hate and murder go together like a horse and carriage?
> Here is the post. In the last paragraph by the poster, it is written,[...made to suffer a horrible death by {them}...].
> This is only one post that attacks the Jews here that is allowed to stand. Supportive? Supportive of what.
> This allowing of antisemitic statements to stand could cause some to discredit what I write here to save lives. But I am trying to save lives, what are you trying to do?
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/1004107.htmlFriends,
As a Jew here, I am subject to the discrimination of being prohibited from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me while the Christiandom members here can post that Jewish children that were murdered by Jew-haters can not have Eternal Life or forgiveness from God because they were Jews that reject the Christiandom claim that the poster says the bible says. (does it)?
Here is the statement that is allowed to stand that could be considered to be supportive and civil here by the nature that Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence, and that is does not matter if one believes what they post.
Notice the attack against the Jews in this post is allowed to stand and that on the admin board my request to Mr Hsiung concerning this is outstanding, which allows the flame of hatred toward the Jews to burn that could start a forest fire, which Mr Hsiung says that he does not want so he acts without waiting. I am waiting. I am trying to stop the attack. But only you can prevenmt forest fires.
Here is the statement:
[...The ONLY reason given in God's word that has or ever will cause someone to miss out on God's forgiveness and Eternal Life is to reject the gift of His Son Jesus as Lord and Savior..].
This can mean that the 1 1/2 million Jewish children killed and their ashes were heaped and blown into the wind by the (redacted by respondent) will not have forgiveness or Eternal Life from God because they were Jews. I am here to speak for them that can not speak here as their ashes are blowing in the wind. The statement means that all the Islamic children killed do not have Eternal Life and forgiveness from God because they were Islamic. This means that all the athiests do not have Eteranl Life or forgivness from God, nor the Hindus or the native Americans or any others than those in the statement. And it also means that the murderers of the Jewish children could put a gun to their head and before they commit suicide they say "I accept Jesus as Lord and Savior", and they have forgivness and Eternal Life from God, even the ones that were murderes of the Jewish children in that they were taught by their leader that by doing so that they would be doing what would be good for their country as a whole.
This defamation posted here toward the Jews and me as aJew is not done by masterminding. It is done because all that is needed for it to stand is for good members to do nothing.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20080809/msgs/941769.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 13:39:14
In reply to Lou's response-gudmembrstudunthng, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 12:58:28
> > > > > > > > > Hello, Its been a few years since posting here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > During the past 12 or so years, I've been diagnosed with Depression, add (inattentive type) and social anxiety. Im currently on generic effexor xr 150, generic klonopin 1mg up to twice per day and adderral 15mg up to twice a day. I've been on this cocktail for about 7 years with very few changes. I went up on the effexor in the past but always went back down to 150mg because of jittery feelings on higher doses. I visited my primary doc today and explained that I have little emotion anymore. I look forward to nothing and get little enjoyment out of life and have been feeling very depressed lately. He asked if i was suicidal. I said no but i constantly feel like a robot and that my life is pointless.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I asked about increasing Effexor dose or possibly supplementing something else in the mix. He was ready to kick up Effexor to 300mg then asked if I've heard about Pristiq. I did not. He said he had a lot of patients that pooped out on Effexor, successfully transfer with little or no side effect (compared to Effexor). He said he would prescribe Prestiq 100mg for a month to see how I respond. He said its like 300mg of Effexor. I told him I got nasty withdrawals when running out or trying to stop Effexor in the past (brain zaps, feelings of going insane, sweating, etc.). He said not to worry, because they are in the same family and I should not experience any of this.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When I got home, I researched immediately. First, I see most people would go from 150 mg Effexor to 50mg Pristiq to start. I already purchased the 100mg Pristiq pills. Since they are tabs, I thought I could just split the pills (if 100mg is too much too fast). Several posts on other websites explicitly warn against splitting these tabs because of their slow release properties. Most of the posts on this website concerning Effexor to Pristiq appear to be several years old, so I was hoping to get some up-to-date info. Please forgive me if there are current discussions with same exact info (I tried to find them). Thank you!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > P.S. for what it's worth, I credit Effexor, in part, to saving my career and family. As bad as i feel at times, I don't think I could have coped without it. Same with the Klonopin (although I usually only take one pill at night)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > in_denial,
> > > > > > > > You wrote,[...Effexor...Pristiq...hoping to get some..info...].
> > > > > > > > The info that I could give you could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions/addiction and prevent you from being induced into a mind-altered state to compel you to kill yourself and/or others, even commit mass-murder.
> > > > > > > > But I am prevented here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung to post this educational material, even though the forum is for support and education. This repression of my speech here could lead to the deaths of innocent people and lead to a lifetime of suffereing and misery from mind-altering chemicals that are promoted by mass media even though the evidence mounts against these drugs on a daily basis to show that they can cause people to kill innocent people and addict the taker of the drugs in a manner that would be criminal if one took cocaine or other illegal drugs. Yet today, your psychiatris/doctor can leagally give you an addictive drug that could kill you and cause you to kill others.
> > > > > > > > Here are some links to some threads with what I was trying to tell people here before the prohibition to me from Mr Hsiung was posted.
> > > > > > > > Do you think that Effexor/Pristiq are new drugs or are they just knock-offs of old drugs?
> > > > > > > > If you could go through the threads here and post in those threads, then I could offer you more info that IMHHHHO could lead you out of the darkness of depression/addiction and into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > > You could see that Mr Hsiung is allowing defamation toward me here to be posted including scapegaoting, antisemitic statements are allowed to stand, and you could find other prohibitions posted to me and that a NY Times writer writes that Mr Hsiung is a mastermind here, but it does not take a mastermind to allow antisemitism to be posted here, only that good members do nothing. If you read what I am posting there could be a new life for you, a new life free from the ravages of mind-altering chemicals that come from nerve-agents before 1933 that are used to kill, and you could be led to your death from the drugs. Others could tell you to take more drugs here. If that is what you want, then reject this opportunity to learn from me.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1010788.html
> > > > > > > > These have prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me to post here by the link. You can see them by going to the bottom of this page and type in the search box;
> > > > > > > > [babble,1009893]
> > > > > > > > [babble,1009623]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > If you are a parent of loved one visiting this site in order to make more-informed decision as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor, there is a unfolding body of facts, facts that could mark the difference between your child being alive or dead or kill innocent people, that many prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me here prevent me from helping you to make that decision even though your child could die from these drugs promoted here or kill others.
> > > > > > > Here is a video that I think could offer you facts to help you decide if you want to drug your child which could be for life, a life that could include addiction, depression, heart attack,diabetes,liver failure, blood disease, tardive dyskinesia which could be a life-long condition of misery and other life-runining conditions and death.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCPK
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends, There is another prohibition to me here from Mr Hsiung concerning posting of links to educational material that could have a prohibited word in a discussion. This is why I do not post links here, even to posts that are from here, for they could contain the prohibition.
> > > > > > Here is a way to see a video that I use here so that a link is not posted.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > To see this video:
> > > > > > A. Bring up Google
> > > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > > [youtube, can antidepressants cause violence]
> > > > > > This is by Dr Moira Dolan MD. You will see her picture. Be advised that some people here that promote mind-altering chemicals could disagree with Dr Dolan. But are they just ignoring the facts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > > If you are interested in this discussion, I am requesting that you view the following video.
> > > > > This video could save your life and cause you to seek a new life, free from psychiatric drugs. And I am here to save lives, to lead peope out of the darkness of depression and addiction and to prevent people from getting a life-ruinig condition or be induced by th drug to kill themselves or other innocent people.
> > > > > You could follow Scott and Phillipa who could be disagreeing with facts, you could follow Mr Hsiung that allows Jews here to be attacked. But don't forget whose grave you could cause others to see, so members, save the last post for me.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlDfcc5Z3w
> > > >
> > > > correction;
> > > > to see this video;
> > > > Lou
> > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > B. Type in:
> > > > [youtube, Dr Peter Breggin, medication spellbinding]
> > >
> > > friends,
> > > A better search...
> > > A. Go to Google
> > > B. Type in:
> > > [youtube, DR Peter Breggin, Simple truths about psychiatry, What is medication spellbinding, #3]
> >
> > Friends,
> > You may be trying to make a decision from reading here as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor or to consider that your life is ruined from psychotropic drugs and want a way out.
> > And what you could see here is an ongoing attack against me and to Judaism. This attack is encouraged by Mr Hsiung that uses the epithet against me {The Prince of Death}, which is a title for Satan, and his deputy (s) by the nature that they are allowing antisemitic statements to stand which could induce an indoctrination by them controlling the content and declaring to the members what is supportive and civil by allowing or not allowing what they want to be posted here. There is nothing new about this tactic, for it is thousands of years old. But to be carried out here could cause the deaths of children and others and cause the flame of hatred toward the Jews to spread throughout the world. This is accomplished by allowing statements that accuse Jews of the crime of deicide and prohibiting me from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me. Here in the following post it is considered supportive and civil to write,[...made to suffer a horrible death by {them}...], which in context is the Jews. This brings up that people on psychiatric drugs could be induced to kill a Jew or defame them, or discriminate against them or to post as in here posts of hatred toward me, a Jew, including scapegoating and statements that they leave here because of what I post. After all, the statements allowed to stand could be thought to be the party-line here and supportive and civil since they are not sanctioned as I would be if I posted the foundation of Judaism here. But I am posting facts, facts that could mark the difference between you or your child being a live person or corpse, facts that could allow children to live, facts that could prevent innocent children from being murdered by those on a drug-induced rampage of death.
> > What would it take for members here to post in the threads on the administrative board that have statements being allowed to stand that attack the Jews? And what do any of you gain by promoting mind-altering drugs that could cause life-ruining conditions and death and the deaths of innocent people? There were 42,000 people that died from these drugs just last year alone. How many more deaths are going to be allowed from these drugs before people stop pretending that they just don't see? How long will the flame of hatred toward the Jews be allowed to stand here before members post in those threads that it is wrong for the statements to be allowed to stand by Mr Hsiung and his deputy? Do you not undrstand that hate and murder go together like a horse and carriage?
> > Here is the post. In the last paragraph by the poster, it is written,[...made to suffer a horrible death by {them}...].
> > This is only one post that attacks the Jews here that is allowed to stand. Supportive? Supportive of what.
> > This allowing of antisemitic statements to stand could cause some to discredit what I write here to save lives. But I am trying to save lives, what are you trying to do?
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/1004107.html
>
> Friends,
> As a Jew here, I am subject to the discrimination of being prohibited from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me while the Christiandom members here can post that Jewish children that were murdered by Jew-haters can not have Eternal Life or forgiveness from God because they were Jews that reject the Christiandom claim that the poster says the bible says. (does it)?
> Here is the statement that is allowed to stand that could be considered to be supportive and civil here by the nature that Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence, and that is does not matter if one believes what they post.
> Notice the attack against the Jews in this post is allowed to stand and that on the admin board my request to Mr Hsiung concerning this is outstanding, which allows the flame of hatred toward the Jews to burn that could start a forest fire, which Mr Hsiung says that he does not want so he acts without waiting. I am waiting. I am trying to stop the attack. But only you can prevenmt forest fires.
> Here is the statement:
> [...The ONLY reason given in God's word that has or ever will cause someone to miss out on God's forgiveness and Eternal Life is to reject the gift of His Son Jesus as Lord and Savior..].
> This can mean that the 1 1/2 million Jewish children killed and their ashes were heaped and blown into the wind by the (redacted by respondent) will not have forgiveness or Eternal Life from God because they were Jews. I am here to speak for them that can not speak here as their ashes are blowing in the wind. The statement means that all the Islamic children killed do not have Eternal Life and forgiveness from God because they were Islamic. This means that all the athiests do not have Eteranl Life or forgivness from God, nor the Hindus or the native Americans or any others than those in the statement. And it also means that the murderers of the Jewish children could put a gun to their head and before they commit suicide they say "I accept Jesus as Lord and Savior", and they have forgivness and Eternal Life from God, even the ones that were murderes of the Jewish children in that they were taught by their leader that by doing so that they would be doing what would be good for their country as a whole.
> This defamation posted here toward the Jews and me as aJew is not done by masterminding. It is done because all that is needed for it to stand is for good members to do nothing.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20080809/msgs/94Friends,
And the post o me by Mr Hsiungthat could help you understand more of what's goin' on here..
If you are interested in this, I would like for you to understand what {anti-Judaism} is and what {anti-Semitism }is. Also, I would like for you to read the edict to expel the Jews by Queen Isabella of Spain in 1492.
Lou
To see this post:
A.Go to the search box at the bottom of this page.
B. Type in:
[admin,7968]
Posted by schleprock on December 23, 2012, at 16:32:33
In reply to Lou's response-ahntygwdehy, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 13:39:14
Only a fool would not believe in the Gospel of Lou Pilder.
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on December 23, 2012, at 16:54:42
In reply to Re: Lou's response-ahntygwdehy, posted by schleprock on December 23, 2012, at 16:32:33
Bruce Lee dies after taking two aspirin for a headache, therefor nobody should ever take a simple analgesic because it will kill them
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 19:00:54
In reply to Lou's response-ahntygwdehy, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 13:39:14
> > > > > > > > > > Hello, Its been a few years since posting here.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > During the past 12 or so years, I've been diagnosed with Depression, add (inattentive type) and social anxiety. Im currently on generic effexor xr 150, generic klonopin 1mg up to twice per day and adderral 15mg up to twice a day. I've been on this cocktail for about 7 years with very few changes. I went up on the effexor in the past but always went back down to 150mg because of jittery feelings on higher doses. I visited my primary doc today and explained that I have little emotion anymore. I look forward to nothing and get little enjoyment out of life and have been feeling very depressed lately. He asked if i was suicidal. I said no but i constantly feel like a robot and that my life is pointless.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I asked about increasing Effexor dose or possibly supplementing something else in the mix. He was ready to kick up Effexor to 300mg then asked if I've heard about Pristiq. I did not. He said he had a lot of patients that pooped out on Effexor, successfully transfer with little or no side effect (compared to Effexor). He said he would prescribe Prestiq 100mg for a month to see how I respond. He said its like 300mg of Effexor. I told him I got nasty withdrawals when running out or trying to stop Effexor in the past (brain zaps, feelings of going insane, sweating, etc.). He said not to worry, because they are in the same family and I should not experience any of this.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > When I got home, I researched immediately. First, I see most people would go from 150 mg Effexor to 50mg Pristiq to start. I already purchased the 100mg Pristiq pills. Since they are tabs, I thought I could just split the pills (if 100mg is too much too fast). Several posts on other websites explicitly warn against splitting these tabs because of their slow release properties. Most of the posts on this website concerning Effexor to Pristiq appear to be several years old, so I was hoping to get some up-to-date info. Please forgive me if there are current discussions with same exact info (I tried to find them). Thank you!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > P.S. for what it's worth, I credit Effexor, in part, to saving my career and family. As bad as i feel at times, I don't think I could have coped without it. Same with the Klonopin (although I usually only take one pill at night)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > in_denial,
> > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...Effexor...Pristiq...hoping to get some..info...].
> > > > > > > > > The info that I could give you could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions/addiction and prevent you from being induced into a mind-altered state to compel you to kill yourself and/or others, even commit mass-murder.
> > > > > > > > > But I am prevented here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung to post this educational material, even though the forum is for support and education. This repression of my speech here could lead to the deaths of innocent people and lead to a lifetime of suffereing and misery from mind-altering chemicals that are promoted by mass media even though the evidence mounts against these drugs on a daily basis to show that they can cause people to kill innocent people and addict the taker of the drugs in a manner that would be criminal if one took cocaine or other illegal drugs. Yet today, your psychiatris/doctor can leagally give you an addictive drug that could kill you and cause you to kill others.
> > > > > > > > > Here are some links to some threads with what I was trying to tell people here before the prohibition to me from Mr Hsiung was posted.
> > > > > > > > > Do you think that Effexor/Pristiq are new drugs or are they just knock-offs of old drugs?
> > > > > > > > > If you could go through the threads here and post in those threads, then I could offer you more info that IMHHHHO could lead you out of the darkness of depression/addiction and into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > > > You could see that Mr Hsiung is allowing defamation toward me here to be posted including scapegaoting, antisemitic statements are allowed to stand, and you could find other prohibitions posted to me and that a NY Times writer writes that Mr Hsiung is a mastermind here, but it does not take a mastermind to allow antisemitism to be posted here, only that good members do nothing. If you read what I am posting there could be a new life for you, a new life free from the ravages of mind-altering chemicals that come from nerve-agents before 1933 that are used to kill, and you could be led to your death from the drugs. Others could tell you to take more drugs here. If that is what you want, then reject this opportunity to learn from me.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1010788.html
> > > > > > > > > These have prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me to post here by the link. You can see them by going to the bottom of this page and type in the search box;
> > > > > > > > > [babble,1009893]
> > > > > > > > > [babble,1009623]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > If you are a parent of loved one visiting this site in order to make more-informed decision as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor, there is a unfolding body of facts, facts that could mark the difference between your child being alive or dead or kill innocent people, that many prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me here prevent me from helping you to make that decision even though your child could die from these drugs promoted here or kill others.
> > > > > > > > Here is a video that I think could offer you facts to help you decide if you want to drug your child which could be for life, a life that could include addiction, depression, heart attack,diabetes,liver failure, blood disease, tardive dyskinesia which could be a life-long condition of misery and other life-runining conditions and death.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCPK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends, There is another prohibition to me here from Mr Hsiung concerning posting of links to educational material that could have a prohibited word in a discussion. This is why I do not post links here, even to posts that are from here, for they could contain the prohibition.
> > > > > > > Here is a way to see a video that I use here so that a link is not posted.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > To see this video:
> > > > > > > A. Bring up Google
> > > > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > > > [youtube, can antidepressants cause violence]
> > > > > > > This is by Dr Moira Dolan MD. You will see her picture. Be advised that some people here that promote mind-altering chemicals could disagree with Dr Dolan. But are they just ignoring the facts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > If you are interested in this discussion, I am requesting that you view the following video.
> > > > > > This video could save your life and cause you to seek a new life, free from psychiatric drugs. And I am here to save lives, to lead peope out of the darkness of depression and addiction and to prevent people from getting a life-ruinig condition or be induced by th drug to kill themselves or other innocent people.
> > > > > > You could follow Scott and Phillipa who could be disagreeing with facts, you could follow Mr Hsiung that allows Jews here to be attacked. But don't forget whose grave you could cause others to see, so members, save the last post for me.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlDfcc5Z3w
> > > > >
> > > > > correction;
> > > > > to see this video;
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > [youtube, Dr Peter Breggin, medication spellbinding]
> > > >
> > > > friends,
> > > > A better search...
> > > > A. Go to Google
> > > > B. Type in:
> > > > [youtube, DR Peter Breggin, Simple truths about psychiatry, What is medication spellbinding, #3]
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > You may be trying to make a decision from reading here as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor or to consider that your life is ruined from psychotropic drugs and want a way out.
> > > And what you could see here is an ongoing attack against me and to Judaism. This attack is encouraged by Mr Hsiung that uses the epithet against me {The Prince of Death}, which is a title for Satan, and his deputy (s) by the nature that they are allowing antisemitic statements to stand which could induce an indoctrination by them controlling the content and declaring to the members what is supportive and civil by allowing or not allowing what they want to be posted here. There is nothing new about this tactic, for it is thousands of years old. But to be carried out here could cause the deaths of children and others and cause the flame of hatred toward the Jews to spread throughout the world. This is accomplished by allowing statements that accuse Jews of the crime of deicide and prohibiting me from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me. Here in the following post it is considered supportive and civil to write,[...made to suffer a horrible death by {them}...], which in context is the Jews. This brings up that people on psychiatric drugs could be induced to kill a Jew or defame them, or discriminate against them or to post as in here posts of hatred toward me, a Jew, including scapegoating and statements that they leave here because of what I post. After all, the statements allowed to stand could be thought to be the party-line here and supportive and civil since they are not sanctioned as I would be if I posted the foundation of Judaism here. But I am posting facts, facts that could mark the difference between you or your child being a live person or corpse, facts that could allow children to live, facts that could prevent innocent children from being murdered by those on a drug-induced rampage of death.
> > > What would it take for members here to post in the threads on the administrative board that have statements being allowed to stand that attack the Jews? And what do any of you gain by promoting mind-altering drugs that could cause life-ruining conditions and death and the deaths of innocent people? There were 42,000 people that died from these drugs just last year alone. How many more deaths are going to be allowed from these drugs before people stop pretending that they just don't see? How long will the flame of hatred toward the Jews be allowed to stand here before members post in those threads that it is wrong for the statements to be allowed to stand by Mr Hsiung and his deputy? Do you not undrstand that hate and murder go together like a horse and carriage?
> > > Here is the post. In the last paragraph by the poster, it is written,[...made to suffer a horrible death by {them}...].
> > > This is only one post that attacks the Jews here that is allowed to stand. Supportive? Supportive of what.
> > > This allowing of antisemitic statements to stand could cause some to discredit what I write here to save lives. But I am trying to save lives, what are you trying to do?
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/1004107.html
> >
> > Friends,
> > As a Jew here, I am subject to the discrimination of being prohibited from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me while the Christiandom members here can post that Jewish children that were murdered by Jew-haters can not have Eternal Life or forgiveness from God because they were Jews that reject the Christiandom claim that the poster says the bible says. (does it)?
> > Here is the statement that is allowed to stand that could be considered to be supportive and civil here by the nature that Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence, and that is does not matter if one believes what they post.
> > Notice the attack against the Jews in this post is allowed to stand and that on the admin board my request to Mr Hsiung concerning this is outstanding, which allows the flame of hatred toward the Jews to burn that could start a forest fire, which Mr Hsiung says that he does not want so he acts without waiting. I am waiting. I am trying to stop the attack. But only you can prevenmt forest fires.
> > Here is the statement:
> > [...The ONLY reason given in God's word that has or ever will cause someone to miss out on God's forgiveness and Eternal Life is to reject the gift of His Son Jesus as Lord and Savior..].
> > This can mean that the 1 1/2 million Jewish children killed and their ashes were heaped and blown into the wind by the (redacted by respondent) will not have forgiveness or Eternal Life from God because they were Jews. I am here to speak for them that can not speak here as their ashes are blowing in the wind. The statement means that all the Islamic children killed do not have Eternal Life and forgiveness from God because they were Islamic. This means that all the athiests do not have Eteranl Life or forgivness from God, nor the Hindus or the native Americans or any others than those in the statement. And it also means that the murderers of the Jewish children could put a gun to their head and before they commit suicide they say "I accept Jesus as Lord and Savior", and they have forgivness and Eternal Life from God, even the ones that were murderes of the Jewish children in that they were taught by their leader that by doing so that they would be doing what would be good for their country as a whole.
> > This defamation posted here toward the Jews and me as aJew is not done by masterminding. It is done because all that is needed for it to stand is for good members to do nothing.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20080809/msgs/94
>
> Friends,
> And the post o me by Mr Hsiungthat could help you understand more of what's goin' on here..
> If you are interested in this, I would like for you to understand what {anti-Judaism} is and what {anti-Semitism }is. Also, I would like for you to read the edict to expel the Jews by Queen Isabella of Spain in 1492.
> Lou
> To see this post:
> A.Go to the search box at the bottom of this page.
> B. Type in:
> [admin,7968]crrection;
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20100321/msgs/949004.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 19:22:39
In reply to correction- Lou's response-ahntygwdehy, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 19:00:54
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Its been a few years since posting here.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > During the past 12 or so years, I've been diagnosed with Depression, add (inattentive type) and social anxiety. Im currently on generic effexor xr 150, generic klonopin 1mg up to twice per day and adderral 15mg up to twice a day. I've been on this cocktail for about 7 years with very few changes. I went up on the effexor in the past but always went back down to 150mg because of jittery feelings on higher doses. I visited my primary doc today and explained that I have little emotion anymore. I look forward to nothing and get little enjoyment out of life and have been feeling very depressed lately. He asked if i was suicidal. I said no but i constantly feel like a robot and that my life is pointless.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I asked about increasing Effexor dose or possibly supplementing something else in the mix. He was ready to kick up Effexor to 300mg then asked if I've heard about Pristiq. I did not. He said he had a lot of patients that pooped out on Effexor, successfully transfer with little or no side effect (compared to Effexor). He said he would prescribe Prestiq 100mg for a month to see how I respond. He said its like 300mg of Effexor. I told him I got nasty withdrawals when running out or trying to stop Effexor in the past (brain zaps, feelings of going insane, sweating, etc.). He said not to worry, because they are in the same family and I should not experience any of this.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > When I got home, I researched immediately. First, I see most people would go from 150 mg Effexor to 50mg Pristiq to start. I already purchased the 100mg Pristiq pills. Since they are tabs, I thought I could just split the pills (if 100mg is too much too fast). Several posts on other websites explicitly warn against splitting these tabs because of their slow release properties. Most of the posts on this website concerning Effexor to Pristiq appear to be several years old, so I was hoping to get some up-to-date info. Please forgive me if there are current discussions with same exact info (I tried to find them). Thank you!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > P.S. for what it's worth, I credit Effexor, in part, to saving my career and family. As bad as i feel at times, I don't think I could have coped without it. Same with the Klonopin (although I usually only take one pill at night)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > in_denial,
> > > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...Effexor...Pristiq...hoping to get some..info...].
> > > > > > > > > > The info that I could give you could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions/addiction and prevent you from being induced into a mind-altered state to compel you to kill yourself and/or others, even commit mass-murder.
> > > > > > > > > > But I am prevented here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung to post this educational material, even though the forum is for support and education. This repression of my speech here could lead to the deaths of innocent people and lead to a lifetime of suffereing and misery from mind-altering chemicals that are promoted by mass media even though the evidence mounts against these drugs on a daily basis to show that they can cause people to kill innocent people and addict the taker of the drugs in a manner that would be criminal if one took cocaine or other illegal drugs. Yet today, your psychiatris/doctor can leagally give you an addictive drug that could kill you and cause you to kill others.
> > > > > > > > > > Here are some links to some threads with what I was trying to tell people here before the prohibition to me from Mr Hsiung was posted.
> > > > > > > > > > Do you think that Effexor/Pristiq are new drugs or are they just knock-offs of old drugs?
> > > > > > > > > > If you could go through the threads here and post in those threads, then I could offer you more info that IMHHHHO could lead you out of the darkness of depression/addiction and into a marvelous light.
> > > > > > > > > > You could see that Mr Hsiung is allowing defamation toward me here to be posted including scapegaoting, antisemitic statements are allowed to stand, and you could find other prohibitions posted to me and that a NY Times writer writes that Mr Hsiung is a mastermind here, but it does not take a mastermind to allow antisemitism to be posted here, only that good members do nothing. If you read what I am posting there could be a new life for you, a new life free from the ravages of mind-altering chemicals that come from nerve-agents before 1933 that are used to kill, and you could be led to your death from the drugs. Others could tell you to take more drugs here. If that is what you want, then reject this opportunity to learn from me.
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1010788.html
> > > > > > > > > > These have prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me to post here by the link. You can see them by going to the bottom of this page and type in the search box;
> > > > > > > > > > [babble,1009893]
> > > > > > > > > > [babble,1009623]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > If you are a parent of loved one visiting this site in order to make more-informed decision as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor, there is a unfolding body of facts, facts that could mark the difference between your child being alive or dead or kill innocent people, that many prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me here prevent me from helping you to make that decision even though your child could die from these drugs promoted here or kill others.
> > > > > > > > > Here is a video that I think could offer you facts to help you decide if you want to drug your child which could be for life, a life that could include addiction, depression, heart attack,diabetes,liver failure, blood disease, tardive dyskinesia which could be a life-long condition of misery and other life-runining conditions and death.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCPK
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends, There is another prohibition to me here from Mr Hsiung concerning posting of links to educational material that could have a prohibited word in a discussion. This is why I do not post links here, even to posts that are from here, for they could contain the prohibition.
> > > > > > > > Here is a way to see a video that I use here so that a link is not posted.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > To see this video:
> > > > > > > > A. Bring up Google
> > > > > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > > > > [youtube, can antidepressants cause violence]
> > > > > > > > This is by Dr Moira Dolan MD. You will see her picture. Be advised that some people here that promote mind-altering chemicals could disagree with Dr Dolan. But are they just ignoring the facts?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > If you are interested in this discussion, I am requesting that you view the following video.
> > > > > > > This video could save your life and cause you to seek a new life, free from psychiatric drugs. And I am here to save lives, to lead peope out of the darkness of depression and addiction and to prevent people from getting a life-ruinig condition or be induced by th drug to kill themselves or other innocent people.
> > > > > > > You could follow Scott and Phillipa who could be disagreeing with facts, you could follow Mr Hsiung that allows Jews here to be attacked. But don't forget whose grave you could cause others to see, so members, save the last post for me.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlDfcc5Z3w
> > > > > >
> > > > > > correction;
> > > > > > to see this video;
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > A. Pull up Google
> > > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > > [youtube, Dr Peter Breggin, medication spellbinding]
> > > > >
> > > > > friends,
> > > > > A better search...
> > > > > A. Go to Google
> > > > > B. Type in:
> > > > > [youtube, DR Peter Breggin, Simple truths about psychiatry, What is medication spellbinding, #3]
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > > You may be trying to make a decision from reading here as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor or to consider that your life is ruined from psychotropic drugs and want a way out.
> > > > And what you could see here is an ongoing attack against me and to Judaism. This attack is encouraged by Mr Hsiung that uses the epithet against me {The Prince of Death}, which is a title for Satan, and his deputy (s) by the nature that they are allowing antisemitic statements to stand which could induce an indoctrination by them controlling the content and declaring to the members what is supportive and civil by allowing or not allowing what they want to be posted here. There is nothing new about this tactic, for it is thousands of years old. But to be carried out here could cause the deaths of children and others and cause the flame of hatred toward the Jews to spread throughout the world. This is accomplished by allowing statements that accuse Jews of the crime of deicide and prohibiting me from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me. Here in the following post it is considered supportive and civil to write,[...made to suffer a horrible death by {them}...], which in context is the Jews. This brings up that people on psychiatric drugs could be induced to kill a Jew or defame them, or discriminate against them or to post as in here posts of hatred toward me, a Jew, including scapegoating and statements that they leave here because of what I post. After all, the statements allowed to stand could be thought to be the party-line here and supportive and civil since they are not sanctioned as I would be if I posted the foundation of Judaism here. But I am posting facts, facts that could mark the difference between you or your child being a live person or corpse, facts that could allow children to live, facts that could prevent innocent children from being murdered by those on a drug-induced rampage of death.
> > > > What would it take for members here to post in the threads on the administrative board that have statements being allowed to stand that attack the Jews? And what do any of you gain by promoting mind-altering drugs that could cause life-ruining conditions and death and the deaths of innocent people? There were 42,000 people that died from these drugs just last year alone. How many more deaths are going to be allowed from these drugs before people stop pretending that they just don't see? How long will the flame of hatred toward the Jews be allowed to stand here before members post in those threads that it is wrong for the statements to be allowed to stand by Mr Hsiung and his deputy? Do you not undrstand that hate and murder go together like a horse and carriage?
> > > > Here is the post. In the last paragraph by the poster, it is written,[...made to suffer a horrible death by {them}...].
> > > > This is only one post that attacks the Jews here that is allowed to stand. Supportive? Supportive of what.
> > > > This allowing of antisemitic statements to stand could cause some to discredit what I write here to save lives. But I am trying to save lives, what are you trying to do?
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/1004107.html
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > As a Jew here, I am subject to the discrimination of being prohibited from posting the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me while the Christiandom members here can post that Jewish children that were murdered by Jew-haters can not have Eternal Life or forgiveness from God because they were Jews that reject the Christiandom claim that the poster says the bible says. (does it)?
> > > Here is the statement that is allowed to stand that could be considered to be supportive and civil here by the nature that Mr Hsiung states that support takes precedence, and that is does not matter if one believes what they post.
> > > Notice the attack against the Jews in this post is allowed to stand and that on the admin board my request to Mr Hsiung concerning this is outstanding, which allows the flame of hatred toward the Jews to burn that could start a forest fire, which Mr Hsiung says that he does not want so he acts without waiting. I am waiting. I am trying to stop the attack. But only you can prevenmt forest fires.
> > > Here is the statement:
> > > [...The ONLY reason given in God's word that has or ever will cause someone to miss out on God's forgiveness and Eternal Life is to reject the gift of His Son Jesus as Lord and Savior..].
> > > This can mean that the 1 1/2 million Jewish children killed and their ashes were heaped and blown into the wind by the (redacted by respondent) will not have forgiveness or Eternal Life from God because they were Jews. I am here to speak for them that can not speak here as their ashes are blowing in the wind. The statement means that all the Islamic children killed do not have Eternal Life and forgiveness from God because they were Islamic. This means that all the athiests do not have Eteranl Life or forgivness from God, nor the Hindus or the native Americans or any others than those in the statement. And it also means that the murderers of the Jewish children could put a gun to their head and before they commit suicide they say "I accept Jesus as Lord and Savior", and they have forgivness and Eternal Life from God, even the ones that were murderes of the Jewish children in that they were taught by their leader that by doing so that they would be doing what would be good for their country as a whole.
> > > This defamation posted here toward the Jews and me as aJew is not done by masterminding. It is done because all that is needed for it to stand is for good members to do nothing.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20080809/msgs/94
> >
> > Friends,
> > And the post o me by Mr Hsiungthat could help you understand more of what's goin' on here..
> > If you are interested in this, I would like for you to understand what {anti-Judaism} is and what {anti-Semitism }is. Also, I would like for you to read the edict to expel the Jews by Queen Isabella of Spain in 1492.
> > Lou
> > To see this post:
> > A.Go to the search box at the bottom of this page.
> > B. Type in:
> > [admin,7968]
>
> crrection;
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20100321/msgs/949004.htmlcorrection to DR Breggin's video about whgat is medication spellbinding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwIDfcc5Z3w
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 20:56:25
In reply to I call bulls*it, posted by jono_in_adelaide on December 23, 2012, at 16:54:42
> Bruce Lee dies after taking two aspirin for a headache, therefor nobody should ever take a simple analgesic because it will kill them
jono_in_,
You wrote,[...after two aspirin tablets..].
That is a lie. Bruce Lee died as a result of a brain swelling that he had been hospitslized previously for and there was hashish found in his stomach. You get that by injesting hashish and he did take something for his headach but it was not two aspirins. He took {miltown}and aspirin in a drug that contains those two.
Bruce Lee was in a horrrible physical state upon his death with almost no body fat. The hashish is his stomach was played down at the time of his death because of reasons that you can do a search on. And you can search for his use of hashish in relation to his previous hospitlization. That drugs killed Bruce Lee has been reported, but it was not two aspirins. And anyway, we are talking about mind-altering drugs that can kill the user and innocent people hat the user murders.
My friends, you can follow the people that advocate to take mind-altering drugs right here, and you can believe all the lies that are posted here. But don't forget whose body those drugs are gonna be, so members, save the last post for me.
Lou
Posted by Phil on December 23, 2012, at 21:20:16
In reply to Lou's response- » jono_in_adelaide, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 20:56:25
You are lying too, Lou. They found traces of cannabis in his system. Since the beginning of time cannabis has not killed one person, ever. I've seen nothing about hash and you don't eat it, you smoke it.
He died from brain swelling brought on by an allergic reaction to a pain killer.
It's not nice to call someone a liar but since you did here's your karma.
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 21:37:20
In reply to Re: Lou's response- » Lou Pilder, posted by Phil on December 23, 2012, at 21:20:16
> You are lying too, Lou. They found traces of cannabis in his system. Since the beginning of time cannabis has not killed one person, ever. I've seen nothing about hash and you don't eat it, you smoke it.
> He died from brain swelling brought on by an allergic reaction to a pain killer.
> It's not nice to call someone a liar but since you did here's your karma.Friends,
It is written here that Bruce Lee took two aspirins and died. That is a lie.
Bruce lee had hashish in his stomach in the autopsy. That the chemical was in his stomach means that it was injested, not smoked.
But there is much more to this as you can see he attack upon me here with the lie that hashish is smoked, which it is, but there is a potnet type from Nepal that is eaten.
Friends, you can follow the people that atack me here and so be it. But you can also see that they are sometime full of (redacted by respondent). So don't forget whose lies that you are going to see, so members, save the last post for me.
Lou
http://www.bruceleedivinewind.com/death.html
Posted by schleprock on December 23, 2012, at 21:38:19
In reply to Re: Lou's response- » Lou Pilder, posted by Phil on December 23, 2012, at 21:20:16
I pity the fool who doesn't hold Lou Pilder in his heart.
Posted by Phil on December 23, 2012, at 21:43:09
In reply to Lou's response-canonondhalftofmecnanontherghtofme » Phil, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 21:37:20
Do more research Lou.
Posted by SLS on December 23, 2012, at 23:06:28
In reply to Lou's response-canonondhalftofmecnanontherghtofme » Phil, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 21:37:20
Lou Pilder,
You wrote:
> Friends,
> It is written here that Bruce Lee took two aspirins and died. That is a lie.I don't happen to know the truth of what caused the death of Bruce Lee. Perhaps no one does. However, that someone makes statements that are contrary to fact does not imply that those statements are lies, or that he is a liar.
I have never described your words as being lies, even though it was my belief that science had proved you wrong.
If I had described your words as being lies, would you feel defamed?
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 24, 2012, at 10:55:11
In reply to Effexor to Pristiq switch » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on December 23, 2012, at 23:06:28
> Lou Pilder,
>
> You wrote:
>
> > Friends,
> > It is written here that Bruce Lee took two aspirins and died. That is a lie.
>
> I don't happen to know the truth of what caused the death of Bruce Lee. Perhaps no one does. However, that someone makes statements that are contrary to fact does not imply that those statements are lies, or that he is a liar.
>
> I have never described your words as being lies, even though it was my belief that science had proved you wrong.
>
> If I had described your words as being lies, would you feel defamed?
>
>
> - ScottScott,
There is much more to this here. Lives are at stake here, people could get life-ruining conditions from the drugs that you and others advocate here. People could have a mind-altered state induced to them by the drugs to compel them to kill themselves and/or others and even commit mass-murder. There are innocent people being murdered by those taking mind-altering drugs given to them by psychiatrists/doctors. In investigating these cases, many of the mass-murderers had no suicide or homocidal tendencies until they took the drugs. The drugs can induce akathisia and horrrifc withdrawal symptoms which has been determined to create a mind-state for those in that condition to want to kill themselves. This is a reason why when one is in the withdrawal state, they kill themselves, for they can not live with the horror and think that death is better than to be in that state.
The context here deserves for someone to point out the assertion that Jono makes that one taking two aspirins could die from that, that the assertion is false. That as being connected to the death of Bruce Lee could deceive the audiance here to get them to accept what is true as being an untruthful statement in that there is no mention that he took two aspirins and that was the cause of his death and the statement could convey a false impression to get others to accept what is false.
This is more important here because if the members are deceived to think that all psycotropic drugs are like aspirin, then children could be deceived to think that taking mind-altering drugs carry no more risk of death than aspirin, which is false, for 42000 people died from psychotropic drugs just last year alone and more will die this year due to more mass-advertising that if I was provided a few minuets to respond to their advertismernt on television, the whole truth could be known and IMHHHO there would be less deaths, less addictions, and less life-ruinig conditios on the face of this earth.
This is why I must expose the lie. The lie could cause the deaths of children if allowed to stand.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 24, 2012, at 13:50:12
In reply to Re: Lou's response-ahntygwdehy, posted by schleprock on December 23, 2012, at 16:32:33
> Only a fool would not believe in the Gospel of Lou Pilder.
Friends,
What is written here about me is not specified. In order to undertsnad what the poster means, one would need to know what "The gospel of Lou Pilder" is.
The gospel, which means "good-news", of Lou Pilder can be understood by knowing what the news is.
The news is that there is a large body of unfolding evidence concerning psychiatric drugs that may be unbeknownst to you here. There is also a large body of scientific evidence that psychotropic drugs increase suicidal and homocidal thinking and that psychotropic drugs can worsen your condition.
But there is much more to the good news. The good news from me is that I know of a way that one can be freed from addiction and depression and get their life back from the effects of psychiatric drugs. And yes, I am prevented from posting that here due to prohibitions made to me by Mr Hsiung. And this forum is for support and education which could lead people to think that what I am prohibited from posting here is not supportive nor educational. That is part of the indoctrination here, where Mr Hsiung and his deputies have controlled the content here which represses the truth that I could post here. And is that repression supportive?
My friends, can one really have support if one person's knowlege is repressed? And the repression is about Judaism. And the repression here of that is defamation toward me, defamation that could cause others to disregard what I am posting that could lead to their deaths and the deaths of innocent children.
And it is not only the members that are allowed to defame me here, but Mr Hsiung not only allows one to use the epithet,{Prince of Death} toward me, but uses it himself and encourages members here to "offset" me. That means that since "offset" is not specified, others could stoop to sarcasm and defamation and think that they are doing what Mr Hsiung wants toward me here. After all, he states that if you trust what he does here, he would appreciate it, so those that do what he wants could be pleasing him. And do you know the historical parallels to such an encouragement by the leader of a country to offset a person or a group of people?
The gospel of Lou PIlder is for people to have life, and life more abundantly. Who would want people to stop me? I am not the Prince of Death, for I am posting for others to be freed from a living death, and a physical death and an Eternal Death from drugs promoted here. The fact that millions of people could die from these drugs and I am trying to educate you about the deaths from these drugs, and people are trying to defame me here, speaks to my gospel in that the reality is that my name could be in the catagory of The Prince of Peace, although Isaiah listed that name as one for the God that the Jews give service and worship to, which I am not. But I am a messenger of that God, to bring you a message of good cheer, a message that leads to life that enables you to uncover the lies that have brought you down to the pit of dispair and into a Lake of Fire. And who would want to stop me from having the shackles of depression and addiction broken for all time so that he Gates of Death are opened to you and you could come forth in singing. And you could sing a new song, and have a new life.
Friends, the Prince of Death is a name for Satan. This defamation is so cruel to me that I have thought to abandon my mission here like Jonah. But I have been swallowed up by a Great Force to come here and show you a sign. A sign that could uncover the lies you believe. And when the lies are uncovered, there then appears a revelation. A revelation of truth, a revelation of freedom, a revelation of life.
Now some of you will cling to the hope of a human achievement to find your way out of depression and addiction. And while time runs for you to find that, if it exists, death may come first, a life-ruining condition may come first, addiction may come first, the deaths of innocents may come before that hope of new drug or that the old drug will "work", whatever that could mean. But I say to you, that I am prevented here by prohibitions to me from Mr Hsiung to tell you what the prescription is from the God that I give service and worship to, to those that take mind-altering drugs, be them legal or not. And by that being supressed here, you do not have what has been revealed to me for you to make a complete informed decision as to get out of these drugs or stay taking them, even though they could cause death. Death by heart attack. Death by respiratory failure, death by stroke, death by serotonin syndrom, death by suicide, death by diabetes, death by liver failure, death by blood disease, death by accident from disorientation of your senses in driving and such, death by policemen, death by electrocution, death by kidney failure, death by a host of other complications brought on by these drugs. And do you think that you could have forgivness and Eternal Life from God if you murder a child and say that you accept Jesus as Lord and Savior right before you kill yorself? There is a post here that is allowed to stand that says that, and Mr Hsiung is allowing it to stand, which is an antisemitic statement as well as other anti statement, so one could think that it is true and that the bible says that. (Does it)? Is the statement "supportive", and if so, supportive of what?
And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, He said to me, "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake; for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. And Blessed are you when men revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you, falsly, for my sake. And rejoice and be exceedingly glad; for great is your reward in heaven. And lay not up yourself treasurs upon earth, where moth and rust does currupt, and where thieves beak through and steal. But lay up for yourself treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust does currupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
Lou
Posted by in_denial on December 26, 2012, at 19:13:36
In reply to Effexor to Pristiq switch, posted by in_denial on December 22, 2012, at 5:15:58
> Hello, Its been a few years since posting here.
>
> During the past 12 or so years, I've been diagnosed with Depression, add (inattentive type) and social anxiety. Im currently on generic effexor xr 150, generic klonopin 1mg up to twice per day and adderral 15mg up to twice a day. I've been on this cocktail for about 7 years with very few changes. I went up on the effexor in the past but always went back down to 150mg because of jittery feelings on higher doses. I visited my primary doc today and explained that I have little emotion anymore. I look forward to nothing and get little enjoyment out of life and have been feeling very depressed lately. He asked if i was suicidal. I said no but i constantly feel like a robot and that my life is pointless.
>
> I asked about increasing Effexor dose or possibly supplementing something else in the mix. He was ready to kick up Effexor to 300mg then asked if I've heard about Pristiq. I did not. He said he had a lot of patients that pooped out on Effexor, successfully transfer with little or no side effect (compared to Effexor). He said he would prescribe Prestiq 100mg for a month to see how I respond. He said its like 300mg of Effexor. I told him I got nasty withdrawals when running out or trying to stop Effexor in the past (brain zaps, feelings of going insane, sweating, etc.). He said not to worry, because they are in the same family and I should not experience any of this.
>
> When I got home, I researched immediately. First, I see most people would go from 150 mg Effexor to 50mg Pristiq to start. I already purchased the 100mg Pristiq pills. Since they are tabs, I thought I could just split the pills (if 100mg is too much too fast). Several posts on other websites explicitly warn against splitting these tabs because of their slow release properties. Most of the posts on this website concerning Effexor to Pristiq appear to be several years old, so I was hoping to get some up-to-date info. Please forgive me if there are current discussions with same exact info (I tried to find them). Thank you!
>
> P.S. for what it's worth, I credit Effexor, in part, to saving my career and family. As bad as i feel at times, I don't think I could have coped without it. Same with the Klonopin (although I usually only take one pill at night)
Update 12/26 - the first few days were a little rough. Not sure if it was Effexor withdrawal or Prestiq side effects. I felt a lot of anxiety and stomach cramps. Today is my 5th full day on Prestiq and I feel very good...physically and mentally. I feel alert and have an overall sense of well being. One of the problems I was experiencing while on Effexor was extreme tiredness. I'm prescribed up to 30mg of adderal per day. Today I only took 7.5mg so I'm happy about that.I feel 'good' today. Hope this continues. As a reminder, I was taking 150 mg of Effexor for many years. I transitioned right to 100 mg of Prestiq cold turkey. I know that at 150 mg, the Effexor wasn't touching my norepinephrine levels. At 100mg, the Pristiq is. If this doesn't work, My next step would be going back on Effexor, but at 300mg. Thanks for the comments.
Posted by schleprock on December 28, 2012, at 15:54:28
In reply to Lou's reply-psuhpoativofwhad? » schleprock, posted by Lou Pilder on December 24, 2012, at 13:50:12
> > Only a fool would not believe in the Gospel of Lou Pilder.
>
> Friends,
> What is written here about me is not specified. In order to undertsnad what the poster means, one would need to know what "The gospel of Lou Pilder" is.
> The gospel, which means "good-news", of Lou Pilder can be understood by knowing what the news is.
> The news is that there is a large body of unfolding evidence concerning psychiatric drugs that may be unbeknownst to you here. There is also a large body of scientific evidence that psychotropic drugs increase suicidal and homocidal thinking and that psychotropic drugs can worsen your condition.
> But there is much more to the good news. The good news from me is that I know of a way that one can be freed from addiction and depression and get their life back from the effects of psychiatric drugs. And yes, I am prevented from posting that here due to prohibitions made to me by Mr Hsiung. And this forum is for support and education which could lead people to think that what I am prohibited from posting here is not supportive nor educational. That is part of the indoctrination here, where Mr Hsiung and his deputies have controlled the content here which represses the truth that I could post here. And is that repression supportive?
> My friends, can one really have support if one person's knowlege is repressed? And the repression is about Judaism. And the repression here of that is defamation toward me, defamation that could cause others to disregard what I am posting that could lead to their deaths and the deaths of innocent children.
> And it is not only the members that are allowed to defame me here, but Mr Hsiung not only allows one to use the epithet,{Prince of Death} toward me, but uses it himself and encourages members here to "offset" me. That means that since "offset" is not specified, others could stoop to sarcasm and defamation and think that they are doing what Mr Hsiung wants toward me here. After all, he states that if you trust what he does here, he would appreciate it, so those that do what he wants could be pleasing him. And do you know the historical parallels to such an encouragement by the leader of a country to offset a person or a group of people?
> The gospel of Lou PIlder is for people to have life, and life more abundantly. Who would want people to stop me? I am not the Prince of Death, for I am posting for others to be freed from a living death, and a physical death and an Eternal Death from drugs promoted here. The fact that millions of people could die from these drugs and I am trying to educate you about the deaths from these drugs, and people are trying to defame me here, speaks to my gospel in that the reality is that my name could be in the catagory of The Prince of Peace, although Isaiah listed that name as one for the God that the Jews give service and worship to, which I am not. But I am a messenger of that God, to bring you a message of good cheer, a message that leads to life that enables you to uncover the lies that have brought you down to the pit of dispair and into a Lake of Fire. And who would want to stop me from having the shackles of depression and addiction broken for all time so that he Gates of Death are opened to you and you could come forth in singing. And you could sing a new song, and have a new life.
> Friends, the Prince of Death is a name for Satan. This defamation is so cruel to me that I have thought to abandon my mission here like Jonah. But I have been swallowed up by a Great Force to come here and show you a sign. A sign that could uncover the lies you believe. And when the lies are uncovered, there then appears a revelation. A revelation of truth, a revelation of freedom, a revelation of life.
> Now some of you will cling to the hope of a human achievement to find your way out of depression and addiction. And while time runs for you to find that, if it exists, death may come first, a life-ruining condition may come first, addiction may come first, the deaths of innocents may come before that hope of new drug or that the old drug will "work", whatever that could mean. But I say to you, that I am prevented here by prohibitions to me from Mr Hsiung to tell you what the prescription is from the God that I give service and worship to, to those that take mind-altering drugs, be them legal or not. And by that being supressed here, you do not have what has been revealed to me for you to make a complete informed decision as to get out of these drugs or stay taking them, even though they could cause death. Death by heart attack. Death by respiratory failure, death by stroke, death by serotonin syndrom, death by suicide, death by diabetes, death by liver failure, death by blood disease, death by accident from disorientation of your senses in driving and such, death by policemen, death by electrocution, death by kidney failure, death by a host of other complications brought on by these drugs. And do you think that you could have forgivness and Eternal Life from God if you murder a child and say that you accept Jesus as Lord and Savior right before you kill yorself? There is a post here that is allowed to stand that says that, and Mr Hsiung is allowing it to stand, which is an antisemitic statement as well as other anti statement, so one could think that it is true and that the bible says that. (Does it)? Is the statement "supportive", and if so, supportive of what?
> And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, He said to me, "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake; for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. And Blessed are you when men revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you, falsly, for my sake. And rejoice and be exceedingly glad; for great is your reward in heaven. And lay not up yourself treasurs upon earth, where moth and rust does currupt, and where thieves beak through and steal. But lay up for yourself treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust does currupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> Lou
>
>
>
>
>Lou, If Satan is the Prince of Death, then who is the King of Death?
And could you bring up the post where Dr. Hsuing calls you "The Prince of Death."?
Posted by Lou Pilder on December 28, 2012, at 16:33:07
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-psuhpoativofwhad? » Lou Pilder, posted by schleprock on December 28, 2012, at 15:54:28
> > > Only a fool would not believe in the Gospel of Lou Pilder.
> >
> > Friends,
> > What is written here about me is not specified. In order to undertsnad what the poster means, one would need to know what "The gospel of Lou Pilder" is.
> > The gospel, which means "good-news", of Lou Pilder can be understood by knowing what the news is.
> > The news is that there is a large body of unfolding evidence concerning psychiatric drugs that may be unbeknownst to you here. There is also a large body of scientific evidence that psychotropic drugs increase suicidal and homocidal thinking and that psychotropic drugs can worsen your condition.
> > But there is much more to the good news. The good news from me is that I know of a way that one can be freed from addiction and depression and get their life back from the effects of psychiatric drugs. And yes, I am prevented from posting that here due to prohibitions made to me by Mr Hsiung. And this forum is for support and education which could lead people to think that what I am prohibited from posting here is not supportive nor educational. That is part of the indoctrination here, where Mr Hsiung and his deputies have controlled the content here which represses the truth that I could post here. And is that repression supportive?
> > My friends, can one really have support if one person's knowlege is repressed? And the repression is about Judaism. And the repression here of that is defamation toward me, defamation that could cause others to disregard what I am posting that could lead to their deaths and the deaths of innocent children.
> > And it is not only the members that are allowed to defame me here, but Mr Hsiung not only allows one to use the epithet,{Prince of Death} toward me, but uses it himself and encourages members here to "offset" me. That means that since "offset" is not specified, others could stoop to sarcasm and defamation and think that they are doing what Mr Hsiung wants toward me here. After all, he states that if you trust what he does here, he would appreciate it, so those that do what he wants could be pleasing him. And do you know the historical parallels to such an encouragement by the leader of a country to offset a person or a group of people?
> > The gospel of Lou PIlder is for people to have life, and life more abundantly. Who would want people to stop me? I am not the Prince of Death, for I am posting for others to be freed from a living death, and a physical death and an Eternal Death from drugs promoted here. The fact that millions of people could die from these drugs and I am trying to educate you about the deaths from these drugs, and people are trying to defame me here, speaks to my gospel in that the reality is that my name could be in the catagory of The Prince of Peace, although Isaiah listed that name as one for the God that the Jews give service and worship to, which I am not. But I am a messenger of that God, to bring you a message of good cheer, a message that leads to life that enables you to uncover the lies that have brought you down to the pit of dispair and into a Lake of Fire. And who would want to stop me from having the shackles of depression and addiction broken for all time so that he Gates of Death are opened to you and you could come forth in singing. And you could sing a new song, and have a new life.
> > Friends, the Prince of Death is a name for Satan. This defamation is so cruel to me that I have thought to abandon my mission here like Jonah. But I have been swallowed up by a Great Force to come here and show you a sign. A sign that could uncover the lies you believe. And when the lies are uncovered, there then appears a revelation. A revelation of truth, a revelation of freedom, a revelation of life.
> > Now some of you will cling to the hope of a human achievement to find your way out of depression and addiction. And while time runs for you to find that, if it exists, death may come first, a life-ruining condition may come first, addiction may come first, the deaths of innocents may come before that hope of new drug or that the old drug will "work", whatever that could mean. But I say to you, that I am prevented here by prohibitions to me from Mr Hsiung to tell you what the prescription is from the God that I give service and worship to, to those that take mind-altering drugs, be them legal or not. And by that being supressed here, you do not have what has been revealed to me for you to make a complete informed decision as to get out of these drugs or stay taking them, even though they could cause death. Death by heart attack. Death by respiratory failure, death by stroke, death by serotonin syndrom, death by suicide, death by diabetes, death by liver failure, death by blood disease, death by accident from disorientation of your senses in driving and such, death by policemen, death by electrocution, death by kidney failure, death by a host of other complications brought on by these drugs. And do you think that you could have forgivness and Eternal Life from God if you murder a child and say that you accept Jesus as Lord and Savior right before you kill yorself? There is a post here that is allowed to stand that says that, and Mr Hsiung is allowing it to stand, which is an antisemitic statement as well as other anti statement, so one could think that it is true and that the bible says that. (Does it)? Is the statement "supportive", and if so, supportive of what?
> > And when I had an encounter with a Rider on a white horse, He said to me, "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake; for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. And Blessed are you when men revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you, falsly, for my sake. And rejoice and be exceedingly glad; for great is your reward in heaven. And lay not up yourself treasurs upon earth, where moth and rust does currupt, and where thieves beak through and steal. But lay up for yourself treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust does currupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> > Lou
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Lou, If Satan is the Prince of Death, then who is the King of Death?
>
> And could you bring up the post where Dr. Hsuing calls you "The Prince of Death."?schleprock,
The Prince of Death post by Mr Hsiung is:
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20120228/msgs/1029332.html
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