Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 10:56:14
In reply to Lou's response-psbellbown, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2012, at 10:46:47
> > > > > Hello, Its been a few years since posting here.
> > > > >
> > > > > During the past 12 or so years, I've been diagnosed with Depression, add (inattentive type) and social anxiety. Im currently on generic effexor xr 150, generic klonopin 1mg up to twice per day and adderral 15mg up to twice a day. I've been on this cocktail for about 7 years with very few changes. I went up on the effexor in the past but always went back down to 150mg because of jittery feelings on higher doses. I visited my primary doc today and explained that I have little emotion anymore. I look forward to nothing and get little enjoyment out of life and have been feeling very depressed lately. He asked if i was suicidal. I said no but i constantly feel like a robot and that my life is pointless.
> > > > >
> > > > > I asked about increasing Effexor dose or possibly supplementing something else in the mix. He was ready to kick up Effexor to 300mg then asked if I've heard about Pristiq. I did not. He said he had a lot of patients that pooped out on Effexor, successfully transfer with little or no side effect (compared to Effexor). He said he would prescribe Prestiq 100mg for a month to see how I respond. He said its like 300mg of Effexor. I told him I got nasty withdrawals when running out or trying to stop Effexor in the past (brain zaps, feelings of going insane, sweating, etc.). He said not to worry, because they are in the same family and I should not experience any of this.
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> > > > > When I got home, I researched immediately. First, I see most people would go from 150 mg Effexor to 50mg Pristiq to start. I already purchased the 100mg Pristiq pills. Since they are tabs, I thought I could just split the pills (if 100mg is too much too fast). Several posts on other websites explicitly warn against splitting these tabs because of their slow release properties. Most of the posts on this website concerning Effexor to Pristiq appear to be several years old, so I was hoping to get some up-to-date info. Please forgive me if there are current discussions with same exact info (I tried to find them). Thank you!
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> > > > > P.S. for what it's worth, I credit Effexor, in part, to saving my career and family. As bad as i feel at times, I don't think I could have coped without it. Same with the Klonopin (although I usually only take one pill at night)
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> > > > in_denial,
> > > > You wrote,[...Effexor...Pristiq...hoping to get some..info...].
> > > > The info that I could give you could save your life, prevent life-ruining conditions/addiction and prevent you from being induced into a mind-altered state to compel you to kill yourself and/or others, even commit mass-murder.
> > > > But I am prevented here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung to post this educational material, even though the forum is for support and education. This repression of my speech here could lead to the deaths of innocent people and lead to a lifetime of suffereing and misery from mind-altering chemicals that are promoted by mass media even though the evidence mounts against these drugs on a daily basis to show that they can cause people to kill innocent people and addict the taker of the drugs in a manner that would be criminal if one took cocaine or other illegal drugs. Yet today, your psychiatris/doctor can leagally give you an addictive drug that could kill you and cause you to kill others.
> > > > Here are some links to some threads with what I was trying to tell people here before the prohibition to me from Mr Hsiung was posted.
> > > > Do you think that Effexor/Pristiq are new drugs or are they just knock-offs of old drugs?
> > > > If you could go through the threads here and post in those threads, then I could offer you more info that IMHHHHO could lead you out of the darkness of depression/addiction and into a marvelous light.
> > > > You could see that Mr Hsiung is allowing defamation toward me here to be posted including scapegaoting, antisemitic statements are allowed to stand, and you could find other prohibitions posted to me and that a NY Times writer writes that Mr Hsiung is a mastermind here, but it does not take a mastermind to allow antisemitism to be posted here, only that good members do nothing. If you read what I am posting there could be a new life for you, a new life free from the ravages of mind-altering chemicals that come from nerve-agents before 1933 that are used to kill, and you could be led to your death from the drugs. Others could tell you to take more drugs here. If that is what you want, then reject this opportunity to learn from me.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20110117/msgs/1010788.html
> > > > These have prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me to post here by the link. You can see them by going to the bottom of this page and type in the search box;
> > > > [babble,1009893]
> > > > [babble,1009623]
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > > If you are a parent of loved one visiting this site in order to make more-informed decision as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor, there is a unfolding body of facts, facts that could mark the difference between your child being alive or dead or kill innocent people, that many prohibitions from Mr Hsiung to me here prevent me from helping you to make that decision even though your child could die from these drugs promoted here or kill others.
> > > Here is a video that I think could offer you facts to help you decide if you want to drug your child which could be for life, a life that could include addiction, depression, heart attack,diabetes,liver failure, blood disease, tardive dyskinesia which could be a life-long condition of misery and other life-runining conditions and death.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCPK
> >
> > Friends, There is another prohibition to me here from Mr Hsiung concerning posting of links to educational material that could have a prohibited word in a discussion. This is why I do not post links here, even to posts that are from here, for they could contain the prohibition.
> > Here is a way to see a video that I use here so that a link is not posted.
> > Lou
> > To see this video:
> > A. Bring up Google
> > B. Type in:
> > [youtube, can antidepressants cause violence]
> > This is by Dr Moira Dolan MD. You will see her picture. Be advised that some people here that promote mind-altering chemicals could disagree with Dr Dolan. But are they just ignoring the facts?
>
> Friends,
> If you are interested in this discussion, I am requesting that you view the following video.
> This video could save your life and cause you to seek a new life, free from psychiatric drugs. And I am here to save lives, to lead peope out of the darkness of depression and addiction and to prevent people from getting a life-ruinig condition or be induced by th drug to kill themselves or other innocent people.
> You could follow Scott and Phillipa who could be disagreeing with facts, you could follow Mr Hsiung that allows Jews here to be attacked. But don't forget whose grave you could cause others to see, so members, save the last post for me.
> Lou
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlDfcc5Z3wcorrection;
to see this video;
Lou
A. Pull up Google
B. Type in:
[youtube, Dr Peter Breggin, medication spellbinding]
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1033516
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20121217/msgs/1033623.html