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Posted by Lamdage22 on July 8, 2012, at 8:25:14
Hello Everyone,
some may know me as Hunk22 or Lamdage without "22".
i foolishly went off psyche meds and guess what i ended up in hospital. My life spiraled out of control a bit after meeting a potential girlfriend.
It seems like i have bipolar (II) disorder and i do get paranoid in both the depressed and the hypomanic phase.
My head is quite a mess.Before i ever seriously took medication, i was dysthymic, had depressive episodes and occasional 1-2 day episodes with elevated moods.
Long term stability in my moods is what i am after.. I do not seem to have had hallucinations, but i certainly get paranoid in both depressed and elevated mood phases. I need to add that it looks more like bipolar (II), since i suffer alot more from depression than the other end of the spectrum.
My current regimen is:
Morning:
5mg Zyprexa
50mg LamotrigineEvening:
10mg Zyprexa
I am thinking to ask my doctor about adding Abilify and lower dose Lithium in an attempt to finally even out my moods and make me stable.Maybe after a while i can reduce the zyprexa, taking only 5mg at night for sleep. I was thinking to take those meds only at nightime.
Furthermore i would like to add Memantine or some other "smartdrug" to reduce Lamictal stupor. I want to take high dose Methylfolate as well.
Have to hope the doctors agree with my suggestions.What are your thoughts?
What about Geodon vs. Abilify.
I want to finally become stable and steer clear of depression, mania AND Paranoia.
Im in a hospital currently
Thanks in advance and a warm greeting,Lamdage
Posted by Phillipa on July 8, 2012, at 9:57:29
In reply to Psychotic Bipolar Depression, posted by Lamdage22 on July 8, 2012, at 8:25:14
If you are currently in hospital sounds like you are not as yet stable. I'd ask the docs what their plan is. Do you feel an improvement? Are you now in US still? Please keep us updated. Phillipa
Posted by sleepygirl2 on July 8, 2012, at 10:58:09
In reply to Psychotic Bipolar Depression, posted by Lamdage22 on July 8, 2012, at 8:25:14
Hi,
Sorry for what you're going through.
They let you online in the hospital? That's great.
Take care
Sorry, I don't know much about meds except that I want off!!
Posted by Lamdage22 on July 8, 2012, at 12:36:15
In reply to Re: Psychotic Bipolar Depression » Lamdage22, posted by sleepygirl2 on July 8, 2012, at 10:58:09
Yeah i wanna get out, too... but they will keep me here for a while. Its boring and if the lamictal doesnt help, i really dont know what to do
Posted by linkadge on July 8, 2012, at 17:30:58
In reply to Psychotic Bipolar Depression, posted by Lamdage22 on July 8, 2012, at 8:25:14
Lithium is good. I'd prefer it to lamotrigine
Posted by Lamdage22 on July 9, 2012, at 5:35:24
In reply to Re: Psychotic Bipolar Depression, posted by Lamdage22 on July 8, 2012, at 12:36:15
Im currently in germany.. the doctors say i have schizo-affective disorder...
Zyprexa makes me sleep alot wich is welcomed, since i dont see the point in doing anything right now
Posted by SLS on July 9, 2012, at 6:33:54
In reply to Re: Psychotic Bipolar Depression, posted by Lamdage22 on July 9, 2012, at 5:35:24
> Im currently in germany.. the doctors say i have schizo-affective disorder...
>
> Zyprexa makes me sleep alot wich is welcomed, since i dont see the point in doing anything right nowSeroquel with or without Navane might be necessary to prevent psychotic breakthrough. If an antidepressant is necessary, Wellbutrin might be helpful. I know someone who fits your description very closely, and has had success using these three drugs in combination. Any sleepiness that appeared early in treatment disappeared completely.
Lamictal (lamotrigine) is not of much use to treat mania acutely, and I have my doubts whether it can prevent it as a mood stabilizer.
Good luck.
- Scott
Posted by Lamdage22 on July 11, 2012, at 8:21:55
In reply to Re: Psychotic Bipolar Depression » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on July 9, 2012, at 6:33:54
Thanks for the responses so far!
Im in a really bad spot right now. Any additional input/support would be appreciated.
Posted by phidippus on July 11, 2012, at 18:41:56
In reply to Psychotic Bipolar Depression, posted by Lamdage22 on July 8, 2012, at 8:25:14
I'd increase your Lamictal to like 200 mg, then I'd add Geodon, it has more robust antidepressant effects.
You are not bipolar 2 if you suffer from delusions or hallucinations when acute.
Eric
Posted by Lamdage22 on July 15, 2012, at 15:10:10
In reply to Re: Psychotic Bipolar Depression » Lamdage22, posted by phidippus on July 11, 2012, at 18:41:56
I chose to take all these supplements again that i took when i was doing well.
5htp
methylfolate
enada nadh
coQ10
omega3
lithium orotatejust to name a few. I took nardil also when i was well.
And.. what can i say.. two incidents have let things spiral out of control.
I got close with a stripper... and enable her lifestyle. And i felt like my father sexually abused me when i was a kid.I will do what i did when i was fine and happy. Try to reconstruct my life.
Support would be greatly appreciated!Thanks
Posted by Tomatheus on July 15, 2012, at 18:08:07
In reply to Re: Psychotic Bipolar Depression, posted by Lamdage22 on July 15, 2012, at 15:10:10
Lamdage22,
Are you out of the hospital now? Are you still taking the Zyprexa and Lamictal with your supplements? Although I think that supplements can be a good add-on to medications and that they can sometimes be of a lot of help for some conditions when medications don't seem to do the trick, I don't think that supplements stand up to medications when it comes to treating psychosis. So, while I hate to be too pushy, I would encourage you to stay on your antipsychotic if you're taking one or to get back one one if you're not taking one.
I do like the fact that you're trying to reconstruct your life. I am in the process of beginning to do just that myself now that I'm on a regimen of medications of supplements that's been helping for at least a short time. Reconstructing one's life is no easy task, especially when one isn't feeling quite 100 percent mentally. But I think that it's basically what recovering from a serious mental illness is all about. When we're in the depths of a severe mental illness, sometimes the best that we can do is just hang on to survive. And I don't think that there should be any shame in surviving for survival's sake when that's the best that we can do. But to me, truly recovering from mental illness means living, not simply surviving. Making the transition from surviving to living requires a lot of courage and a lot of hard work, and I think that one is most likely to achieve success with such a transition when one doesn't go it alone. So, if you're not already doing so, I would encourage you to utilize every mental health professional you can and to accept their help as you try to rebuild your life. It sounds like you've been through some incidents that can most certainly have an impact on your mental well being, and though I applaud your efforts to reconstruct your life in the wake of these incidents, there should be no shame in seeking the guidance of a therapist if you're not already doing so.
It is my hope that with whatever combination of treatments you choose to utilize that you achieve your goals of being fine and happy and of reconstructing your life. I wish you luck, and you have my support.
Tomatheus
Posted by sigismund on July 17, 2012, at 4:08:53
In reply to Re: Psychotic Bipolar Depression » Lamdage22, posted by Tomatheus on July 15, 2012, at 18:08:07
Was Nardil involved in the progression?
It's not a Nardil hypomania related diagnosis?
Posted by Lamdage22 on July 18, 2012, at 13:11:16
In reply to Re: Psychotic Bipolar Depression, posted by sigismund on July 17, 2012, at 4:08:53
Hi Thomatheus,
thanks for your support.. i agree, its tough getting ones life back together. Getting it started is the toughest part.
Im with my mom right now and yes, im trying to avoid the hospital now and go herbal... i have to say.. even while on nardil, the herbs where what helped me BIG time.
Yes, Nardil was involved in the development of paranoia.
Cheers,
Lamdage
Posted by Lamdage22 on July 18, 2012, at 13:50:45
In reply to Re: Psychotic Bipolar Depression, posted by Lamdage22 on July 18, 2012, at 13:11:16
Guys, i will stop the crap again and go herbal.
150mgs of lamotrigine.. is that a big deal to come off of?
Thanks in advance
Posted by Lamdage22 on July 18, 2012, at 13:53:59
In reply to Will stop meds again, posted by Lamdage22 on July 18, 2012, at 13:50:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp3Y8jiIQ04&feature=related
hahaha
Posted by Lamdage22 on July 21, 2012, at 8:21:41
In reply to Re: Will stop meds again, posted by Lamdage22 on July 18, 2012, at 13:53:59
I just cant decide wether to take meds or not..
Lamictal is alright, i will take it.. and wonder of sth that would be a good adjunct for it.
I will go to hospital on monday.
Wish me luck
Posted by Tomatheus on July 21, 2012, at 14:56:22
In reply to Back to being serious, posted by Lamdage22 on July 21, 2012, at 8:21:41
Lamdage22,
Can you be seen on an outpatient basis instead of going back to being hospitalized?
I wish you luck with your journey toward wellness.
Tomatheus
Posted by Lamdage22 on July 22, 2012, at 4:39:10
In reply to Re: Back to being serious » Lamdage22, posted by Tomatheus on July 21, 2012, at 14:56:22
Its my mom who wants me to go.. i was in hospital further away from my family and she took me from there and now im going to a place that is 20 minutes from her. She insists that i go there.
I know im old enough but i cant go without the support of my family right now...
Posted by Tomatheus on July 22, 2012, at 9:51:53
In reply to Re: Back to being serious, posted by Lamdage22 on July 22, 2012, at 4:39:10
> Its my mom who wants me to go.. i was in hospital further away from my family and she took me from there and now im going to a place that is 20 minutes from her. She insists that i go there.
>
> I know im old enough but i cant go without the support of my family right now...Ok, I see. I do think that the most important thing is that you get the treatment that you need, and if your mom insists on you being hospitalized then maybe that's the way you should proceed. I just think that it would be less of a hassle if your treatment were to consist of visiting a doctor every now and then instead of going to the hospital every time that you need to be seen.
At any rate, I do hope that your hospital stay will be a pleasant one, and I hope that you'll find the treatments that they offer you to be helpful.
Tomatheus
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