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Posted by floatingbridge on April 26, 2010, at 18:22:47
Hey,
I see my pcp Wed. and want to know if anyone can recommend one? Maybe just to take at night as needed.
A quick search just now reveals that they are potentially problematic--with cognitive and mood affects?
I've taken xanax ir for muscle relaxation (minimally ) the past few days for a flare up. I'm not very confident self-treating, and I don't want to rock my boat.
Thanks.
Posted by floatingbridge on April 26, 2010, at 19:08:21
In reply to least interfering muscle relaxant, posted by floatingbridge on April 26, 2010, at 18:22:47
Guess I need to ask if there are any I should avoid, too
Posted by Phillipa on April 26, 2010, at 21:47:01
In reply to Re: least interfering muscle relaxant, posted by floatingbridge on April 26, 2010, at 19:08:21
FB valium is one too. Maybe switch to it? The only two I know other than that is flexeril and soma and the soma gave me nightmares. Avoiding so far. Sorry don't know more. Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on April 26, 2010, at 22:02:17
In reply to Re: least interfering muscle relaxant » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on April 26, 2010, at 21:47:01
Thanks Phillipa,
I guess I'll stay with the Xanax as needed or try Valium. My pcp said on a phone message that would be alright. I hesitate to try new meds. After I posted, I thought it best to wait. I'm feeling a little scared. I've been doing well, now even though the pain is subsiding, I'm fatigued. Hard to think, stand, all that cr*p. Pity-party. Don't do sick well. Tomorrow will better. Argh! Head trips seem to be the only travel plans. :)
Thanks
Posted by desolationrower on April 27, 2010, at 0:39:20
In reply to least interfering muscle relaxant, posted by floatingbridge on April 26, 2010, at 18:22:47
i'd probably ask for baclofen
-d/r
Posted by floatingbridge on April 27, 2010, at 0:48:44
In reply to Re: least interfering muscle relaxant, posted by desolationrower on April 27, 2010, at 0:39:20
Yes, in my brief research, that one seemed like the possible maybe. There seemed to be about a hundred. I still don't have the generics for all the psych meds down!
Thanks, d/r
Posted by sowhysosad on April 27, 2010, at 12:08:07
In reply to Re: least interfering muscle relaxant, posted by desolationrower on April 27, 2010, at 0:39:20
> i'd probably ask for baclofen
>
> -d/rSeconded here!
Been on it for a few months for a neurological condition and it seems to have minimal or no psychological effects.
Posted by Ernie D. on April 29, 2010, at 16:50:02
In reply to Another vote for baclofen!, posted by sowhysosad on April 27, 2010, at 12:08:07
> > i'd probably ask for baclofen
Good to hear you are doing well on Baclofen. I am considering using it for GAD. Does anyone have experience with it for treating anxiety disorders?> >
> > -d/r
>
> Seconded here!
>
> Been on it for a few months for a neurological condition and it seems to have minimal or no psychological effects.
Posted by floatingbridge on April 29, 2010, at 17:31:32
In reply to Re: Another vote for baclofen!, posted by Ernie D. on April 29, 2010, at 16:50:02
Ernie, I'd be interested in your experiences. I know nothing about muscle relaxants--only that my pdoc cautioned me. For GAD? How did you hear about this.
Curious,
fb
Posted by floatingbridge on April 29, 2010, at 17:37:38
In reply to Re: Another vote for baclofen! » Ernie D., posted by floatingbridge on April 29, 2010, at 17:31:32
Well my pcp wrote scrip for flexeril. Jeepers--I took one early evening as soon as my husband came home, because I didn't know what to expect.
It did not put me to sleep--however, I feel that I slept very deeply (I am very often aware that I am sleeping). Waking up was AWFUL! I felt so strange, and I actually asked my husband if my face looked funny. It's taken until about 2:00pm my time for the sensations to clear. While having a more relaxed neck and back is good, I found my thoughts going to those familiar bad places they can go.
In a nutshell: not so good.
fb
Posted by Ernie D. on April 29, 2010, at 19:15:08
In reply to Re: Another vote for baclofen! » Ernie D., posted by floatingbridge on April 29, 2010, at 17:31:32
I started a thread about Progabine and Brain Damage replied with:
It looks like an interesting drug, a bit like GHB & Phenibut/Baclofen> Ernie, I'd be interested in your experiences. I know nothing about muscle relaxants--only that my pdoc cautioned me. For GAD? How did you hear about this.
>
> Curious,
>
> fb
Posted by Phillipa on April 29, 2010, at 21:01:30
In reply to flexerill, posted by floatingbridge on April 29, 2010, at 17:37:38
FB thanks no soma for me then can that one. Love Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on April 29, 2010, at 23:30:25
In reply to Re: flexerill » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on April 29, 2010, at 21:01:30
Yeah, Phillipa, it was really weird. I woke up with much less muscle tension--and right now, I still feel a relief from that. Cognitively, however, I felt so out of it--kinda' surreal. Ideally, I could see taking it on a Friday night if I had no real responsibilities for the next day. Then it might help break the tension 'cycle'. I suppose if I drank a bit, that would help relax me, but I don't. Massage works, but right now, I only get them once a month, and it doesn't work the same way.
My pdoc had cautioned against them, and when I looked online briefly, no one could really say how they work.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on April 30, 2010, at 14:21:11
In reply to Re: flexerill » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on April 29, 2010, at 23:30:25
>Cognitively, however, I felt so out of it--kinda' surreal.
That's very common with Flexeril, initially. It tends to wear off after a while. It might be best to try a very low dose for the first few days.
Posted by floatingbridge on April 30, 2010, at 16:17:42
In reply to Re: flexerill, posted by ed_uk2010 on April 30, 2010, at 14:21:11
> >Cognitively, however, I felt so out of it--kinda' surreal.
>
> That's very common with Flexeril, initially. It tends to wear off after a while. It might be best to try a very low dose for the first few days.Hi Ed, I don't know what a low dose is. I took one 10mg tab. I think it'll have to be a long weekend type of occasion for me. I'll see if the physiatrist has input next week.
Thanks
Posted by Phillipa on April 30, 2010, at 19:54:43
In reply to Re: flexerill » ed_uk2010, posted by floatingbridge on April 30, 2010, at 16:17:42
FB when I tried the soma I took only a third of a pill. So many quarter then for a night and see what happens. Think it could take the place of a benzo? Love Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk2010 on May 1, 2010, at 2:21:46
In reply to Re: flexerill » ed_uk2010, posted by floatingbridge on April 30, 2010, at 16:17:42
Try 2.5mg at night initially. Flexeril is related to the tricyclic antidepressants and causes similar sedation.
Posted by floatingbridge on May 1, 2010, at 20:10:56
In reply to Re: flexerill » floatingbridge, posted by ed_uk2010 on May 1, 2010, at 2:21:46
Thank you, ed.
I'd quarter my tablet--or at least aim for that.
I was surprised to read that the way many relaxants work is 'unknown'.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on May 2, 2010, at 6:58:24
In reply to Re: flexerill » ed_uk2010, posted by floatingbridge on May 1, 2010, at 20:10:56
> Thank you, ed.
>
> I'd quarter my tablet--or at least aim for that.It doesn't have to be precise. The low starting dose just helps to let your body get used to the drug. Take the dose 1-2 hours before you plan to go to sleep.
> I was surprised to read that the way many relaxants work is 'unknown'.
Flexeril is known to relieve pain, to what extent (if at all) this is actually due to muscle relaxation isn't clear.
Posted by floatingbridge on May 2, 2010, at 9:44:16
In reply to Re: flexerill » floatingbridge, posted by ed_uk2010 on May 2, 2010, at 6:58:24
Ed,
After your mention of flexeril and tca's, I recalled how absolutely spaced I initially felt on my first ssri.
So (not that Flexeril is identical) tca's and by extension maoi's really have effects that ssri's do not have--.
Kind of cheering.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on May 2, 2010, at 16:10:56
In reply to Re: flexerill » ed_uk2010, posted by floatingbridge on May 2, 2010, at 9:44:16
Cyclobenzaprine (Flexeril) is structurally similar to amitriptyline. The two drugs both have analgesic properties in chronic pain.
> Ed,
>
> After your mention of flexeril and tca's, I recalled how absolutely spaced I initially felt on my first ssri.
>
> So (not that Flexeril is identical) tca's and by extension maoi's really have effects that ssri's do not have--.
>
> Kind of cheering.
>
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