Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 830140

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For SLS and others

Posted by okydoky on May 20, 2008, at 14:26:41


The Amineptine I took in Feb. for a week was working. In April I had no response to it at all. I wondered if taking the Lyrica I took between the two trials could have caused the Amineptine not to work taken so soon after the Lyrica which causes depression for me?


I tried Lamictal for a time but started a rash and was afraid. Interested in Neuroplasticity of Tianeptine, Selegiline and perhaps others. I started Tianeptine again and stopped Amineptine for a time to see both if I could tolerate taking Tianeptine and how it was alone.

Was advised to try Abilify but after reading about taking it with Selegiline and Selegiline having neuroprotective factors I tried Tianeptine because I had it.


Tianeptine with Amineptine? What are you thoughts?

Thanks,

oky

 

Re: For SLS and others » okydoky

Posted by SLS on May 20, 2008, at 14:36:06

In reply to For SLS and others, posted by okydoky on May 20, 2008, at 14:26:41

Hi Oky ;-)

I have seen Lyrica and Neurontin affect people adversely by exacerbating their depression. Often, this worsened state lasts for 3-4 weeks after stopping the drug.

I don't know if anyone here has personal experience with combining amineptine with tianeptine. That leaves you with the responsibility to either produce a theory why the two drugs would work synergistically and safely, or to work empirically and try the combination in the absence of theory. I would go with the latter and try it. Do you think there may be any safety considerations?


- Scott


 

Re: For SLS and others » SLS

Posted by okydoky on May 20, 2008, at 18:03:29

In reply to Re: For SLS and others » okydoky, posted by SLS on May 20, 2008, at 14:36:06

SLS,

My ability to understand a lot of this is limited. Unless there is some reason not to mix an 5-HT reuptake accelerator with a DA reuptake inhibition I would think taking the two Tianeptine and Amineptine would be fine.

Looking at Selegiline I do not understand how the maois work. Say if I were to take Selegiline instead of Tianeptine to help with memory problems and such. I could not decide between the two.


Would the fact that Parnate was very beneficial at one time be of any influence?

I just wondered also if the Lyrica changes the brain chemistry temporarily which may have been a contributing factor to the Amineptine not working a couple months after it did.

My concentration and focus are minimal. But I can learn things the problem is I do not retain them. I have looked up things these last few weeks and read quite a bit. A lot are things I have already learned and forgotten before. I would think I could retain at least some of what I understood. You challenge me to theorize why the two would work synergistically and safely together and I know from what I have learned I should have some knowledge about it but I cannot remember any of it. I do not think there are any safely concerns with these two drugs It was a long time ago I decided with a lot of researching that these would be good to try. I am going on what I remember from several years ago a lot of the time.

It would seem perhaps that I should be able to comprehend more than I do and believe me it is frustrating because when I used to study something I learned it. PERIOD!!

Since I already started the Tianeptine I'll stick with it for a whie to see how it works.

By the way any used cars for sale yet?

Thanks,

oky

 

Re: For SLS and others

Posted by SLS on May 20, 2008, at 18:10:03

In reply to Re: For SLS and others » okydoky, posted by SLS on May 20, 2008, at 14:36:06

My impression is that there is more evidence that tianeptine is neuroprotective than there is for selegiline.


- Scott

 

Re: For SLS and others » SLS

Posted by okydoky on May 20, 2008, at 21:02:42

In reply to Re: For SLS and others, posted by SLS on May 20, 2008, at 18:10:03

> My impression is that there is more evidence that tianeptine is neuroprotective than there is for selegiline.
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I thought that but ony based on finding more information about it. Perhaps more indepth.

Any why Lyrica would have not just a negative affect but that it lingers for so long?
By the way I posted this on alternative.
I found I have DHEA in my house. Memory so bad no recall as to why I bought it or how long I tried it. I read a little on this site about it. I started taking 12.5mg of it several days ago. Now I am wondering two things.
Think I Should I have my blood tested first and in that vein how long should I be off it before I get the blood work done? Second how does "Keto-7" compare with DHEA for symptoms of depression?

Child abuse permanently alters hippocampus DNA ....which can be associated with suicide later in life.
Posted by Larry Hoover
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchArticle.action?articleURI=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0002085

I did not understand most of this article but have been reading some of the references, or the abstracts in some cases, that I can better understand. Wow does this hit home. Neglect, abuse, possible physical abuse not remembered.narcissistic mother, extensive family history of depression. Very interesting the interaction upbringing and environment in general relates to gene expression. I dont even understand it much it seems to me common sense at least as it pertains to my life. 'Anecdotal' Epigenetic research is beginning to prove. Does that make sense? Perhaps if I continue to read these referenced articles and read them again I will start to understand it more. In any case I find it fascinating.

oky



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