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Posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 0:10:35
I have had posts sending like lightnight bolts on what happned.
The fact my mother over-exaggerated to him, that she thought stimulants are the devil itself, is just riduclous. He already sidded, after 22 phone's + session + 2 well stated faxed letters to him. He ignored them, as a doctor, that is being lazy, he called a lawyer, the lawyer said from the evidence that i did have a problem with stimulants, told him you can't treat him.
Well.........sh*t. Got a co-dependent mother that will go out of her way to do this, because one for all, its irrational. But she cares for me too much, but she is sabtaoging vital treat, after YEARS of danm evidence in her face that i have ADHD. "Nope" either do it, or your on the street.
Her last name is now "Dearest" now.
Im just saddened that the fact i cant be treated for ADHD legally (my doctor was told not to, because if i did something that would hard my health) (well ill tell you, this man hasnt done much at all, its only if hurts his rep, i called him told him i was going to have a breakdown repteadly, and he didnt call back, now that is your #1 good doctor), with stimulants, many people here told me. Forget it and move on. I did for 3 years and what happened...i detorieated in some aspects.
Well, now its just eggshells, ADHD couching, and more crap in life. All because of Ms. "Dearest"
well, ill just shrug my shoulders, its life, it screws you around, especially someone with a personality disorder you lived with your whole life.
Cheers....to all that are successfully treated well.
fan
Posted by gardenergirl on March 12, 2008, at 1:30:53
In reply to Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica, posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 0:10:35
Contact your insurance company.
Ask them for a list of psychiatrists in your area who take your insurance.
Start calling them to see who is taking new patients.
Make an appointment with one who is taking new patients.
Go to the appointment.
Bring your insurance card.
Do not bring your mother.
Do not consent to have the doctor speak to your mother. Explain if necessary that she has poor boundaries and insists on going with you to your appts, and you do not want wish to continue this practice.
When you start to feel anxious about your mother's reaction, remind yourself that you are legally entitled to this privacy, and that this privacy between you and your doctor will ultimately result in a better working relationship with the doctor and ultimately better treatment.
Describe to the doctor your feelings, thoughts, and behaviors as appropriate. Answer questions honestly. Do not suggest any modes of treatment you are interested in before the doctor has had a chance to form an impression and plan.
Come to an agreement with the doctor on a plan of treatment.
Go to the pharmacy and fill your prescriptions, but do not hand them over to your mother.
Follow the treatment plan as agreed.
That's the best advice I can offer tonight. I'd love to hear what your counselor thinks about all this. Have you had a chance to talk to her about it yet?gg
Posted by Kath on March 12, 2008, at 10:48:00
In reply to Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica, posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 0:10:35
Sorry you're going through all this #1f.
I think GG's suggestions sound great.
I would add specifically that if I were in your situation, given what's happened, I would probably not even mention ANYthing to your mother about going to a pdoc, before, during, or after your visits. Just a thought.
Hang in there. You're doing your best to forge forward positively in your life Fan. I applaud you for the strength you're showing on a daily basis.
hugs, Kath
PS - I don't know what your financial situation is, or if you're interested, but there ARE alternative methods of treatment available for people with ADD & ADHD. I think some of them are based on Fish Oil products. If you're interested I suggest posting on the Alternative board, or looking it up on Google - maybe ADHD natural treatments - or something like that.
K
Posted by Phillipa on March 12, 2008, at 13:14:25
In reply to Re: Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica » your#1fan, posted by Kath on March 12, 2008, at 10:48:00
Fan sounds like an excellent plan what do you think? Love Phillipa
Posted by Maximus on March 12, 2008, at 13:16:28
In reply to Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica, posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 0:10:35
> I have had posts sending like lightnight bolts on what happned.
>
> The fact my mother over-exaggerated to him, that she thought stimulants are the devil itself, is just riduclous. He already sidded, after 22 phone's + session + 2 well stated faxed letters to him. He ignored them, as a doctor, that is being lazy, he called a lawyer, the lawyer said from the evidence that i did have a problem with stimulants, told him you can't treat him.
>Dude, the point is, your mother, your pdoc and the lawyer can NOT be 100% wrong, though. We have just seen one side of the coin yet... Bye.
Posted by maxime on March 12, 2008, at 14:17:04
In reply to Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica, posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 0:10:35
Man, you have to lose the "woe is me" attitude. People on this board have bent head over heels to help you and you never listen. Racer has given you lots of excellent advice and you don't take it.
I think that since you know you will not be given stimulants, that you need to find an alternative way to treat to the ADD. It is possible. Not everyone goes on meds.
I also think that what be seen as ADD by you, is actually hypomania since you are bipolar.
Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on March 12, 2008, at 20:20:26
In reply to Re: Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica » your#1fan, posted by maxime on March 12, 2008, at 14:17:04
Fan are you manic and bipolar? You finally got a diagnosis from a doctor that that is the problem? I didn't know? Love Phillipa
Posted by polarbear206 on March 12, 2008, at 21:01:16
In reply to Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica, posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 0:10:35
> I have had posts sending like lightnight bolts on what happned.
>
> The fact my mother over-exaggerated to him, that she thought stimulants are the devil itself, is just riduclous. He already sidded, after 22 phone's + session + 2 well stated faxed letters to him. He ignored them, as a doctor, that is being lazy, he called a lawyer, the lawyer said from the evidence that i did have a problem with stimulants, told him you can't treat him.
>
> Well.........sh*t. Got a co-dependent mother that will go out of her way to do this, because one for all, its irrational. But she cares for me too much, but she is sabtaoging vital treat, after YEARS of danm evidence in her face that i have ADHD. "Nope" either do it, or your on the street.
>
> Her last name is now "Dearest" now.
>
> Im just saddened that the fact i cant be treated for ADHD legally (my doctor was told not to, because if i did something that would hard my health) (well ill tell you, this man hasnt done much at all, its only if hurts his rep, i called him told him i was going to have a breakdown repteadly, and he didnt call back, now that is your #1 good doctor), with stimulants, many people here told me. Forget it and move on. I did for 3 years and what happened...i detorieated in some aspects.
>
> Well, now its just eggshells, ADHD couching, and more crap in life. All because of Ms. "Dearest"
>
> well, ill just shrug my shoulders, its life, it screws you around, especially someone with a personality disorder you lived with your whole life.
>
> Cheers....to all that are successfully treated well.
>
> fanDo yourself a favor and get off the stimulant bandwagon and address the real underlying issues that are likely at the root of your problems. You have yourself in a vicious cycle. Listen to Maximus and maxime.
PB
Posted by dukeme on March 12, 2008, at 21:19:49
In reply to Re: Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica, posted by polarbear206 on March 12, 2008, at 21:01:16
> > I have had posts sending like lightnight bolts on what happned.
> >
> > The fact my mother over-exaggerated to him, that she thought stimulants are the devil itself, is just riduclous. He already sidded, after 22 phone's + session + 2 well stated faxed letters to him. He ignored them, as a doctor, that is being lazy, he called a lawyer, the lawyer said from the evidence that i did have a problem with stimulants, told him you can't treat him.
> >
> > Well.........sh*t. Got a co-dependent mother that will go out of her way to do this, because one for all, its irrational. But she cares for me too much, but she is sabtaoging vital treat, after YEARS of danm evidence in her face that i have ADHD. "Nope" either do it, or your on the street.
> >
> > Her last name is now "Dearest" now.
> >
> > Im just saddened that the fact i cant be treated for ADHD legally (my doctor was told not to, because if i did something that would hard my health) (well ill tell you, this man hasnt done much at all, its only if hurts his rep, i called him told him i was going to have a breakdown repteadly, and he didnt call back, now that is your #1 good doctor), with stimulants, many people here told me. Forget it and move on. I did for 3 years and what happened...i detorieated in some aspects.
> >
> > Well, now its just eggshells, ADHD couching, and more crap in life. All because of Ms. "Dearest"
> >
> > well, ill just shrug my shoulders, its life, it screws you around, especially someone with a personality disorder you lived with your whole life.
> >
> > Cheers....to all that are successfully treated well.
> >
> > fan
>
>
>
> Do yourself a favor and get off the stimulant bandwagon and address the real underlying issues that are likely at the root of your problems. You have yourself in a vicious cycle. Listen to Maximus and maxime.
>
> PBi am new here but just read this blog. PB, bravo, =dont know maximus ^ maxine but sound as cool as you.
Posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 22:14:41
In reply to Re: Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica, posted by dukeme on March 12, 2008, at 21:19:49
ok, alot crap has been happening in my life, mood changes, stuff, and i just posted this about my doctor.
Now i know, at this point, maybe i said a little too much..ok? i do this with everyone i know, i say things over again.....its a problem i'll have to work out. I'm sorry! its just that thoughts bother me alot! im contantly thinking about stuff that is reality.
I'm going to spend my time for some hours responding, but what isnt true is that i have taken advice....i've responded to alot of people. Alot, plus long responses.
Alright.....if i have to stay up till 2 am i'll do it, to make things ok, and make people understand my thinking and my situation.
But i tell you, that i have alot of phobia's, fears, and i never show them, im afraid of people! sometimes.
on my MARK GET SET GO!!!!!!!!!
Posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 22:22:45
In reply to Re: Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica, posted by polarbear206 on March 12, 2008, at 21:01:16
Alright, hey how's it going? everything ok...
Alright the main root of my problems is that i do not how take care of problems, i have had some years hell, and i intent to have more years of havoc, until i learn to cope with problems.....everything, school, getting on the right career, socializing, and stuff.
Mother dearest is screaming in the background, do you know know how much stress i undure? and people think im really just acting it, my mom right now is going crazy. Wish i was on Island right now..... dont you?
The cycle im in right now is controlled, uncontrolled, and crazy, i have trouble with motivation, and much things. But i have enough motivation to respond to people that i blog to.
I do have mood swings, but lets get to the bottom line..... i have a bad life. Thats a fact.... and i have to live with it. Champane? Cheers?
But i do care what others think of me. And it BOTHERS ME!
im not a fan of myself because some people have beat me down, online and in real life. And im not a VICTEM at all! it just seems to happen to me all the time.
Ok? will smile now for me? :) seriously lets all smile and forget all problems for a while....
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 22:31:23
In reply to Re: Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica, posted by Maximus on March 12, 2008, at 13:16:28
Ok. Ill get off the fact, stop obsessing about it. Obviously it pisses people off here if i repeatealy talk about something.
And that bothers me...... really, i just am eating up by others sometimes and dont show it.
Plus i have responded to others like crazy ..... and they say i dont listen..... try to resond my best. This time
well forget it.....
thanks, the future....is what is ahead, the past is the past. One way or another i want to go forward...and stop obessing about things that cannot be done.
thanks for your staight forwardness
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 22:49:15
In reply to Re: Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica » your#1fan, posted by maxime on March 12, 2008, at 14:17:04
alright, i hope you are doing good.
<<<<<<<<you have to lose the "woe is me" attitude>>>>>>>>>
Woe? you mean like one of those people on the steet? i am not sreet stuff! no no no way. I am actually more sheltered than i thought, and now its time to get into the real world of havoc and worry.
Maxi, i know people have defeinrly taken there time out of there there's, im not saying i need some extra help from others, but if you ever see me on typical day? lets face it, im either talking up a storm, losing something, in the counselors office. Im not playing a Victem at all, all bad crap seems to always happen to me, i have a bad way on coping with stuff.
I have hypomanic teers sometimes, and both not paying attention to what is being said, and then really getting mad at my ownself for not doing it.
You have got to know that go through nervous, nervous, and plus i dont know how to deal with reality at times. I want to just commit myself, suicite myself, but i cant, i have keep on going.
Why can't i be a stable as some people on this board?
im sorry i have to go..... i gotta respond to others or the'll wont respond again. Stress. I feel im in the "pit", or maybe its just everyone has a frustrated opinion about me. I dont know... who knows, maybe tommorow everything will be better. I luve living in this life, its really because i was raised because i was not trained correctly how to deal with life. And plus communicating properly with people.
But thanks for your response.
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 22:54:29
In reply to Re: Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica, posted by dukeme on March 12, 2008, at 21:19:49
I do appricate responding because right now i need support. And my stress comes out with nervous, or mood changes.
Maxime is to the point, and thats good. Maxius got to the point of things also in a diffrent manner, i hope everone here is for eachother, if there not...........i dont know, i'll just switch or something. I need support badly from people, which i lack it badly in life.
fan
Posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 23:03:12
In reply to You CAN be treated » your#1fan, posted by gardenergirl on March 12, 2008, at 1:30:53
I now know all that i am, since im almost an am 21. (Legally) My mother hid this from me in a way to hide the fact of the matter.
Thanks so much for this, ok........new psychistrist, insurance company, alot of crap, but it will give me some freedom.
But do you know what my mother will do in response to this? many things, she has made threats that she will throw me off her insurance. It could just be a bluff, if she does, thats one mother that has control issues with anger issues.
My mother will get prescription, she flushed the vital medication that helps me in concentration, dexedrine down the the toilet. This is how intense she is.
But thanks, im going to bookmark this post so i can go back and go down the list.
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 23:07:03
In reply to Re: Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica » your#1fan, posted by Kath on March 12, 2008, at 10:48:00
im getting pretty tired...... i've read these post, have made me realize new info.
Kath i would just like to say to you, thank you for all of your support, in the way you say things, the support, your "doing" better, thanks. I need that. I lack it thought c0-denedency, because im always am thinking if people like, or love me (in the family)
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 23:12:56
In reply to Re: Im just really distaught, i cant be treated medica, posted by Phillipa on March 12, 2008, at 20:20:26
Phillipa i would like to thank you so much for your support through these years.
Fan are you manic and bipolar? You finally got a diagnosis from a doctor that that is the problem? I didn't know?
Yes, i have been dianosed this for many years, but the symtoms come out more ADHDist. I have had severe manic teers that i never told my family about, i never would ever want them to know about it! i would actually want it erased from my memory!
My head hurts really much right now....who cares..
I take Zyprexa rerember? works but i think Lithium....or Abilify would be the best. Lurspsie told me about Abilify.....with concentration.
Thanks for your put.....
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 23:20:02
In reply to Re: Last but not least at all!! Phillipa, posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 23:12:56
been responding for about an hour.
Now i hope i didnt say anything, because sometimes i say things so fast i forget what i ment....
I am manic depressive, but i do not have, like stay up nights because i take medications. Now i want you to know thank you so much for responding to this. I never have though much of myself, and at least i can throw myself to see people, and see what i have to go through. I always tend to hit my head on the wall....(not reality) but just mess up alot.
ADHD is the worst thing ever....messes with your social stuff, but alot other things. The only thing is to rise about your problems.
I like you all.
Your#1fan
i gotta a migrane but at least im not in the marines......! get tough!
Posted by gardenergirl on March 13, 2008, at 0:46:45
In reply to Re: gardengirl, posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 23:03:12
First, here's a big smile for you. :) I bet you and I and our two monkey-brains (ADHD) could have a lot of laughs if ever met. :)
> But do you know what my mother will do in response to this? many things, she has made threats that she will throw me off her insurance. It could just be a bluff, if she does, thats one mother that has control issues with anger issues.
I remember, and I can see how that would be really intimidating or maybe helpless feeling. But let's problem-solve for a moment...Could you call your insurance company and ask them what the criteria are for staying on your mother's insurance while you are in school? Maybe if she won't pay for you to have it if she reacts that way, you could pay for your portion of it yourself. I don't know, but maybe that's an arrangement that could be made with the insurance co. to take it out of your mother's hands. (shrugs)
And if you practice a few calm, just the facts, ma'am type statements about this, then when your mother flies off, you're "armed with" something to help you cope with that. Just calmly repeat your "mantra" about how this is what's best for you, it's time you started taking more responsibility for your health, etc.
>
> My mother will get prescription, she flushed the vital medication that helps me in concentration, dexedrine down the the toilet. This is how intense she is.Okay, then you have to prevent her from getting the prescription. I don't know what the best way of this is, but I'd think that you'd almost have to get a locked place to put it. But I'm sure you can figure it out. And as long as you are following your doctor's orders and being responsible about your health, I would think she'd be glad. But I'm guessing that she still might fly off the handle. ((((((fan)))))))
>
> But thanks, im going to bookmark this post so i can go back and go down the list.You're welcome. Take care.
gg
Posted by dukeme on March 13, 2008, at 9:47:27
In reply to Re: dukeme, posted by your#1fan on March 12, 2008, at 22:54:29
yw, but you dont owe me an apology or anyone for that matter. i guess you are young and trying to walk through the fuzziness of life but you will get there. good luck.
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