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Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 10, 2006, at 20:25:31
I can't seem to stop. I have (had) been doing well on my maintenance dose of Paxil CR, but the past few weeks I have noticed myself slipping (my pdoc was concerned about the winter months because he has a lot of patients who get more depressed or have a recurrence of depression during that time). I thought, maybe, it was just because of a stressful situation in my workplace which is causing a lot of uncertainty and gossiping, but, usually, exercise can help me unwind and take my mind off of things like that. The past couple of weeks I have been crying everyday and feeling irritable and nervous. I increased the Paxil back up to 25mg for the past 2 weeks, and all it is doing making me tired. It is a seasonal thing, but that doesn't make it any easier to deal with. I see my pdoc next Saturday, so I am definitely going to ask about changing the AD I am on. In retrospect, the Paxil CR, even at a dose as high as 50mg for many months, only really just took the edge off and helped me get more active again. I feel like a bloody loser.
Posted by Declan on December 10, 2006, at 20:59:12
In reply to All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and, posted by dreamboat_annie on December 10, 2006, at 20:25:31
It's bad enough feeling terribly sad without feeling like a loser as well.
Whenever I hear the mention of winners and losers I want to say that this heavenly/hellish conciousness of ours was not given to us to be in a competition, and that we are entitled to protection from this aspect of our culture, or our natures, or whatever it is.
All the best
Declan
Posted by elanor roosevelt on December 10, 2006, at 21:39:40
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and » dreamboat_annie, posted by Declan on December 10, 2006, at 20:59:12
get your doc to change your meds now
the paxil is turning on you
these things happen
Posted by shadowplayers721 on December 10, 2006, at 22:01:20
In reply to All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and, posted by dreamboat_annie on December 10, 2006, at 20:25:31
Please hang on. I know when my meds are increased I get tired to and it takes a while to get adjusted again. Don't blame yourself. Your meds need attention and you are trying to work on that. Give yourself credit for that. It's that depression talking. I am sure others on the outside would not view you as harshly.
I cry when I forget to take my meds. That's how sensitive I am. I can barely function on them, but I am a shambles without.
Here's a website to help you change your view of yourself www.gratefulness.org. Please checkout the uniqueness one. It has a wonderful website on snow crystal. www.snowcrystals.com. You are like a snow crystal. You are beautifully unique. - caring to you ---from the shadowsplayers
Posted by Phillipa on December 10, 2006, at 22:44:41
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and, posted by shadowplayers721 on December 10, 2006, at 22:01:20
I know the feeling that's what I've been doing too. Crying over nothing it seems. And I've been excercising faithfully. We have to hang on. Love Phillipa
Posted by ClearSkies on December 10, 2006, at 23:50:29
In reply to All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and, posted by dreamboat_annie on December 10, 2006, at 20:25:31
I'm told that light therapy helps immensely. From what I've heard the good lamps are an investment but well worth it.
(((dreamboat annie)))
CS
Posted by lymom3 on December 11, 2006, at 7:21:05
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and » dreamboat_annie, posted by ClearSkies on December 10, 2006, at 23:50:29
I just picked up a light box used on Ebay. Works great and barely a fraction of the cost of a new one. I'll be able to find out if it works, if I like it and/or if I'll use it without being out a fortune.
Posted by Maxime on December 11, 2006, at 17:15:51
In reply to All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and, posted by dreamboat_annie on December 10, 2006, at 20:25:31
The tears do stop and then you will feel numb. Sorry, that's been my experience. ;)
Do you think a SAD light might help? I don't know if anyone else mentioned it in their responses to you because I couldn't be *rsed to read them. :) But maybe that might help.
I understand the crying though. And for me, I will cry ANYWHERE because I can't stop it. I will start crying on the bus or walking down the street.
Um, not an uplifting reply. Just know that you are not alone, and there are things you can try. Really. :) :)
Maxime
> I can't seem to stop. I have (had) been doing well on my maintenance dose of Paxil CR, but the past few weeks I have noticed myself slipping (my pdoc was concerned about the winter months because he has a lot of patients who get more depressed or have a recurrence of depression during that time). I thought, maybe, it was just because of a stressful situation in my workplace which is causing a lot of uncertainty and gossiping, but, usually, exercise can help me unwind and take my mind off of things like that. The past couple of weeks I have been crying everyday and feeling irritable and nervous. I increased the Paxil back up to 25mg for the past 2 weeks, and all it is doing making me tired. It is a seasonal thing, but that doesn't make it any easier to deal with. I see my pdoc next Saturday, so I am definitely going to ask about changing the AD I am on. In retrospect, the Paxil CR, even at a dose as high as 50mg for many months, only really just took the edge off and helped me get more active again. I feel like a bloody loser.
Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 11, 2006, at 18:43:43
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and » dreamboat_annie, posted by Declan on December 10, 2006, at 20:59:12
Thanks, Declan. Strange that someone who is so uncompetitive, would consider themselves a loser. I have a really hard time with the winner-loser concept, which is why I didn't enjoy competitive sports. I would never think of another as a loser, but I sure have no problem thinking of myself that way. Need to work on that.
> It's bad enough feeling terribly sad without feeling like a loser as well.
> Whenever I hear the mention of winners and losers I want to say that this heavenly/hellish conciousness of ours was not given to us to be in a competition, and that we are entitled to protection from this aspect of our culture, or our natures, or whatever it is.
> All the best
> Declan
Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 11, 2006, at 18:45:08
In reply to when meds fail you, posted by elanor roosevelt on December 10, 2006, at 21:39:40
Thanks so much. That is good advice and where I am heading. I see my doc on Saturday and will ask him to make a switch then. In the meantime, I took some Xanax, and it seems to have taken a bit of the edge off, thank goodness.
> get your doc to change your meds now
> the paxil is turning on you
> these things happen
Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 11, 2006, at 18:54:18
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and, posted by shadowplayers721 on December 10, 2006, at 22:01:20
Thanks so much for the encouragement. I know I need to change my AD, but I guess I was just a bit shy or nervous to ask my pdoc for a change. I've been doing so well (some ups and downs, but functioning relatively well) and, maybe I was afraid he would be disappointed or angry or whatever (goes back to childhood issues - had to keep my mouth shut and not ask for anything or . . ., you know the drill). And, what's weird is that he is so understanding and willing to consider other options. So, Saturday, I am going to tell him that I have been slipping and that the AD I am on is not helping like it should.
And, thanks for the link. I am going to check it out - sounds interesting.
Thanks again for your kindness. Take care.
> Please hang on. I know when my meds are increased I get tired to and it takes a while to get adjusted again. Don't blame yourself. Your meds need attention and you are trying to work on that. Give yourself credit for that. It's that depression talking. I am sure others on the outside would not view you as harshly.
>
> I cry when I forget to take my meds. That's how sensitive I am. I can barely function on them, but I am a shambles without.
>
> Here's a website to help you change your view of yourself www.gratefulness.org. Please checkout the uniqueness one. It has a wonderful website on snow crystal. www.snowcrystals.com. You are like a snow crystal. You are beautifully unique. - caring to you ---from the shadowsplayers
Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 11, 2006, at 18:55:40
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and, posted by Phillipa on December 10, 2006, at 22:44:41
Phillipa,
I'm sorry you have been feeling the same way. We do have to hang on and hope for better days to come.
> I know the feeling that's what I've been doing too. Crying over nothing it seems. And I've been excercising faithfully. We have to hang on. Love Phillipa
Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 11, 2006, at 19:00:18
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and » dreamboat_annie, posted by ClearSkies on December 10, 2006, at 23:50:29
Thanks so much, Clearskies. I have a lightbox and have it set up to come on in the morning to help me wake up. I so miss the sun shining brightly into my bedroom window in the mornings. I haven't been using the lightbox properly, though. I should also spend about 20 - 30 minutes sitting in front of it in the morning. I may look into a viser so that I can use it at the office in the morning to see if that makes a difference. Or, try to get up a bit earlier and do the 20 minutes before I leave for work.
Thanks for the suggestion and for taking the time to respond and for the hugs.
> I'm told that light therapy helps immensely. From what I've heard the good lamps are an investment but well worth it.
> (((dreamboat annie)))
> CS
Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 11, 2006, at 19:05:08
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and, posted by lymom3 on December 11, 2006, at 7:21:05
Isn't Ebay the greatest! I have been eyeing a dawn simulator and may invest in one of those soon. I bought my light box a little while ago from a medical supply place. It was pricey, but I think it was a good investment. I may look into buying one off Ebay if the price is right and then I can have one at home and one at the office for the winter months. It has been incredibly dark and gloomy where I live for close to 2 months now. Out of 72 days, I think we had 56 days of rain, and, even when it wasn't raining, it was overcast. But, for the time of year, it is quite mild. Early December, and it is above freezing, so that's a bonus.
Thanks for the Ebay tip! Take care.
> I just picked up a light box used on Ebay. Works great and barely a fraction of the cost of a new one. I'll be able to find out if it works, if I like it and/or if I'll use it without being out a fortune.
Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 11, 2006, at 19:13:48
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and » dreamboat_annie, posted by Maxime on December 11, 2006, at 17:15:51
> The tears do stop and then you will feel numb. Sorry, that's been my experience. ;)
>
Don't be sorry. Sadly, that's been my experience too :-(> Do you think a SAD light might help? I don't know if anyone else mentioned it in their responses to you because I couldn't be *rsed to read them. :) But maybe that might help.
>- It's a good suggestion, and I have been using a SAD light, but not properly. I had also read that it is best to start SAD light therapy in the fall, before the days get shorter, for best results.
> I understand the crying though. And for me, I will cry ANYWHERE because I can't stop it. I will start crying on the bus or walking down the street.
>
- I'm sorry, Maxime. I've walked down many a street crying. Sometimes we just can't help it, and that's ok. It needs to come out somehow, somewhere.> Um, not an uplifting reply. Just know that you are not alone, and there are things you can try. Really. :) :)
>
- Uplifting or not, it's nice to know that I am not alone and others can relate, even if I wish for all of us that we couldn't.Thanks, Maxime. And, I hope beyond hope that the Nardil works for you. You truly deserve some relief.
>
Take good care of yourself.
Posted by Maxime on December 12, 2006, at 6:20:52
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and » Maxime, posted by dreamboat_annie on December 11, 2006, at 19:13:48
>
> > Do you think a SAD light might help? I don't know if anyone else mentioned it in their responses to you because I couldn't be *rsed to read them. :) But maybe that might help.It's a good suggestion, and I have been using a SAD light, but not properly. I had also read that it is best to start SAD light therapy in the fall, before the days get shorter, for best results.
>*hands you a tissue*
Well, using the light ( if you have it) now, would be better than nothing, right? So do you live where it is grey in the winter. It's really damp and grey were I live and it does take it's toll.
Take care.
Maxime
Posted by elanor roosevelt on December 12, 2006, at 20:48:22
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and » dreamboat_annie, posted by Maxime on December 12, 2006, at 6:20:52
10 more days until the days stop getting shorter.
whenever there is sunshine take ten minutes and let it soak your face -- even if it is cold out.
get some all white christmas lights and put them someplace you can enjoy them in the evening.
go out and see some funny movies on a big screen.
but still i say change the meds
it happened to me with a few meds -- the crying.
Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 16, 2006, at 10:57:13
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and » dreamboat_annie, posted by Maxime on December 12, 2006, at 6:20:52
>
> *hands you a tissue*- Thanks for the tissue, Maxime. It came in handy. I'm feeling a bit better now. I've been taking some Xanax, and I find it really helps. Still feel a bit weepy, but at least now anxious and weepy.
> Well, using the light ( if you have it) now, would be better than nothing, right? So do you live where it is grey in the winter. It's really damp and grey were I live and it does take it's toll.
>
- I'm in Canada, and it has been damp and grey here as well. A very weird December for Canada, that's for sure. I'd much rather have a couple of feet of snow and sun than mild temperatures, rain and overcast day after day after day.> Take care.
- You take care as well.
Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 16, 2006, at 11:01:07
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and, posted by elanor roosevelt on December 12, 2006, at 20:48:22
I'm counting the days LOL! Somebody told me that after the winter solstice we start getting an extra two-minutes a day of light, so every little bit helps LOL.
Thanks so much for all of your great suggestions. I am seeing my pdoc today, so I will be raising a med change with him.
Take care
> 10 more days until the days stop getting shorter.
>
> whenever there is sunshine take ten minutes and let it soak your face -- even if it is cold out.
>
> get some all white christmas lights and put them someplace you can enjoy them in the evening.
>
> go out and see some funny movies on a big screen.
>
> but still i say change the meds
> it happened to me with a few meds -- the crying.
Posted by dreamboat_annie on December 17, 2006, at 15:09:55
In reply to Re: All I do these days is cry, cry, cry, and » Maxime, posted by dreamboat_annie on December 16, 2006, at 10:57:13
He agreed that anxiety is the root of my problem, and, when left unchecked or untreated, leads to depression. He agreed that the Paxil CR wasn't work as it should and has switched me to Lexapro. He also said he wants me to take Xanax, twice a day as needed, for the next month or so and is not worried about my becoming dependant on it because I will only be using a small dose. So, I left with a script for Lexapro and Xanax and feeling relieved. I always feel better after I see him. He is a great pdoc and always listens and never gets impatient or frustrated. I am lucky to have found him. Anyway, I will get the script filled tomorrow and, hopefully, I will respond to the Lexapro.
That's all for me. Thanks to all of you for your kindness, understanding and wise words of advice. You really helped, and I am grateful.
A la prochaine.
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