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Posted by Angel1 on February 26, 2003, at 7:23:53
Just wondering if anyone has info re: Concerta and depression. Have been taking for about 4 days and today am feeling depressed more than ever. Also take low dose desipramine-75mg. My pdoc said he never heard of that happening. Any info or advice appreciated.
Angel1
Posted by Hattree on February 26, 2003, at 10:05:13
In reply to Can Concerta or Ritilan cause depression?, posted by Angel1 on February 26, 2003, at 7:23:53
yup. almost anything can happen with almost any drug, it seems. did it feel good at first and then deteriorate?
Posted by Ron Hill on February 26, 2003, at 11:41:33
In reply to Can Concerta or Ritilan cause depression?, posted by Angel1 on February 26, 2003, at 7:23:53
Angel,
Anecdotally speaking, Ritalin caused me to become VERY depressed, but it took awhile to do so. I'm a BP II, but I was initially misdiagnosed as ADHD and prescribed Ritalin. At first the Ritalin was great! My concentration, focus, and motivation were incredible. After about two months, however, I became very moody and the pdoc added an SSRI. The SSRI and Ritalin pushed me into mania (or severe hypomania) where I stayed for about two years. Then, rather suddenly, the Ritalin stopped "working" when I took my daily doses and I dropped into a hole of depression so deep that I absolutely could not get out.
Just because Ritalin did this to me, this does not mean that it is bad for everyone. YMMV.
-- Ron
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> Just wondering if anyone has info re: Concerta and depression. Have been taking for about 4 days and today am feeling depressed more than ever. Also take low dose desipramine-75mg. My pdoc said he never heard of that happening. Any info or advice appreciated.
> Angel1
Posted by cybercafe on February 26, 2003, at 21:19:31
In reply to Re: Can Concerta or Ritilan cause depression? » Angel1, posted by Ron Hill on February 26, 2003, at 11:41:33
> Angel,
>
> Anecdotally speaking, Ritalin caused me to become VERY depressed, but it took awhile to do so. I'm a BP II, but I was initially misdiagnosed as ADHD and prescribed Ritalin. At first the Ritalin was great! My concentration, focus, and motivation were incredible. After about two months, however, I became very moody and the pdoc added an SSRI. The SSRI and Ritalin pushed me into mania (or severe hypomania) where I stayed for about two years. Then, rather suddenly, the Ritalin stopped "working" when I took my daily doses and I dropped into a hole of depression so deep that I absolutely could not get out.
>
> Just because Ritalin did this to me, this does not mean that it is bad for everyone. YMMV.
>Ron, I am also bp II + ADHD, what have you found works?
Posted by Ron Hill on February 27, 2003, at 10:59:48
In reply to Re: Can Concerta or Ritilan cause depression?, posted by cybercafe on February 26, 2003, at 21:19:31
Hi Cybercafe,
> Ron, I am also bp II + ADHD, what have you found works?
I'm not ADHD. I'm just BP II. My initial pdoc misdiagnosed me as ADHD and his mistake totally screwed up my life for several years. Currently, however, I'm doing great! I take 600 mg/day of Lithobid (which does a good job of controlling my hypomania) and I take an OTC called Enada NADH (coenzyme 1) to treat my atypical depression (low motivation, anergy, anhedonia, hypersomnia) and my dysphoric mood states (extreme irritability). I'm only in the fifth week of my Enada NADH trial, so it remains to be seen whether it will provide long-term effectiveness. Time will tell. But so far, the results have been truly remarkable.
How about you? Are your meds dialed in pretty well? It seems to me that the treatment of comorbid ADHD & BP II presents a catch-22 situation. On the one hand, one of the best medications for ADHD is a stimulant, but at the same time a stimulant will destabilize the BP II. What have you found that works?
As you probably know, Ritch (Mitch) has a dx similar to yours. (I think this is correct.)
-- Ron
Posted by cybercafe on February 27, 2003, at 23:59:49
In reply to Re: Can Concerta or Ritilan cause depression? » cybercafe, posted by Ron Hill on February 27, 2003, at 10:59:48
> Hi Cybercafe,
>
> > Ron, I am also bp II + ADHD, what have you found works?
>
> I'm not ADHD. I'm just BP II. My initial pdoc misdiagnosed me as ADHD and his mistake totally screwed up my life for several years. Currently, however, I'm doing great! I take 600 mg/day of Lithobid (which does a good job of controlling my hypomania) and I take an OTC called Enada NADH (coenzyme 1) to treat my atypical depression (low motivation, anergy, anhedonia, hypersomnia) and my dysphoric mood states (extreme irritability). I'm only in the fifth week of my Enada NADH trial, so it remains to be seen whether it will provide long-term effectiveness. Time will tell. But so far, the results have been truly remarkable.
>
> How about you? Are your meds dialed in pretty well? It seems to me that the treatment of comorbid ADHD & BP II presents a catch-22 situation. On the one hand, one of the best medications for ADHD is a stimulant, but at the same time a stimulant will destabilize the BP II. What have you found that works?
>
> As you probably know, Ritch (Mitch) has a dx similar to yours. (I think this is correct.)
>
> -- Ron
>oh...
i wonder if abilify might not be a good drug for Bp + ADD
right now i'm taking ritalin + zyprexa and i certainly dont find the ritalin to be destabilizing me (though it should theoretically)
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