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Posted by Mr. Scott on January 5, 2002, at 14:17:54
I don't want to take a mood stabilizer. They all suck big time making me swell or constipated. Just aint gonna take one until I think I'm God or speaking in tongues. And if the occassional benzo is all I need to quell any so called "hypomania" which is really more like occasional goofiness and immaturity and nothing more severe do I really need one? I never act on my impulses, and I'm not even sure it's hypomania or rather antidepressant induced stupidity that mimics ADHD. My sleep is fantastic no matter what state I'M in except that I need a lot of it...I think the whole managed care way of thinking about people as having THIS and categorically requiring THAT to get better is ridiculous. As we see here on the very forum it doesn't work.
Scott
Posted by Mitch on January 5, 2002, at 18:29:35
In reply to BP 2 Question, posted by Mr. Scott on January 5, 2002, at 14:17:54
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> I don't want to take a mood stabilizer. They all suck big time making me swell or constipated. Just aint gonna take one until I think I'm God or speaking in tongues. And if the occassional benzo is all I need to quell any so called "hypomania" which is really more like occasional goofiness and immaturity and nothing more severe do I really need one? I never act on my impulses, and I'm not even sure it's hypomania or rather antidepressant induced stupidity that mimics ADHD. My sleep is fantastic no matter what state I'M in except that I need a lot of it...
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> I think the whole managed care way of thinking about people as having THIS and categorically requiring THAT to get better is ridiculous. As we see here on the very forum it doesn't work.
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> ScottIt could be that you just have adult ADHD and you get a little hypo on antidepressants. Have you tried any pstims like Adderall/Ritalin/Provigil? Klonopin works okeedokee for mild hypomania anyhow. Maybe a little pstim+Klonopin might do the trick?
I like that statment about speaking in tongues! Make sure to record it if it goes down! :-)
Posted by Mr. Scott on January 5, 2002, at 19:15:46
In reply to Re: BP 2 Question » Mr. Scott, posted by Mitch on January 5, 2002, at 18:29:35
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> I like that statment about speaking in tongues! Make sure to record it if it goes down! :-)The tape recorder is on :-)!!
Posted by Mitch on January 5, 2002, at 22:15:55
In reply to Re: BP 2 Question » Mitch, posted by Mr. Scott on January 5, 2002, at 19:15:46
Posted by CalvaryHill on January 6, 2002, at 0:33:05
In reply to BP 2 Question, posted by Mr. Scott on January 5, 2002, at 14:17:54
Perhaps you could look into the new formulation of Depakote called "Extended Release." Its taken all at bedtime and drastically reduces the number of side-effects of Depakote.
Posted by IsoM on January 6, 2002, at 2:24:48
In reply to BP 2 Question, posted by Mr. Scott on January 5, 2002, at 14:17:54
You don't sound bipolar to me. I can act a little manic at times, but it's just me feeling high-spirited & that's what you sound like.
I tried that questionnaire for possible bipolar & it's wasn't me AT ALL! Just my ADHD acting up. Why not try the questionnaire too?
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> I don't want to take a mood stabilizer. They all suck big time making me swell or constipated. Just aint gonna take one until I think I'm God or speaking in tongues. And if the occassional benzo is all I need to quell any so called "hypomania" which is really more like occasional goofiness and immaturity and nothing more severe do I really need one? I never act on my impulses, and I'm not even sure it's hypomania or rather antidepressant induced stupidity that mimics ADHD. My sleep is fantastic no matter what state I'M in except that I need a lot of it...
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> I think the whole managed care way of thinking about people as having THIS and categorically requiring THAT to get better is ridiculous. As we see here on the very forum it doesn't work.
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> Scott
Posted by Mr. Scott on January 6, 2002, at 12:53:39
In reply to Re: BP 2 Question » Mr. Scott, posted by IsoM on January 6, 2002, at 2:24:48
Thanks ISO M,
Where can I find such a questionaire?
Scott
Posted by Krazy Kat on January 6, 2002, at 15:24:51
In reply to BP 2 Question, posted by Mr. Scott on January 5, 2002, at 14:17:54
Mr. Scott:
I like your comments. I don't know if you're BP2, or not, but this is what I've been thinking lately.
HOWEVER, sometimes when you're manic, you have no idea that you are (you're acting manic, but just can't see it). So a mood stabilizer can be a good idea b/c it helps you fairly consistently. You have to be aware of your mania to take a benzo to calm you down.
I Think I'm getting to that point myself, but I don't want to fool myself either.
The questionaire is on this site - I'll look for it.
- K.
Posted by Ron Hill on January 6, 2002, at 16:55:18
In reply to BP 2 Question, posted by Mr. Scott on January 5, 2002, at 14:17:54
Scott,
I'm BPII but I was initially misdiagnosised as ADHD by a pdoc and perscribed Ritalin. I will not bore you with the details but, long story short, this idiot pdoc distroyed my life by not conducting an adequate diagnosis before passing out the pills!
My advice:
1) Make sure you have the correct dx. Use on-line test (link below) as a first step. See more than one pdoc to verify dx.
2) If you are BP, DO NOT take AD's and definitely DO NOT take pstim's without first having a mood stablizer fully in place.
Here's some links:
Extensive On-Line Diagnosis Program
http://www.mentalhealth.com/fr71.htmlMania Questionaire
http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php/id/975/type/doc/cn/Bipolar%20DisorderDistingushing Between ADHD vs BP II
http://www.dr-bob.org/tips/
http://www.mhsource.com/hy/bipolarch.html-- Ron
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> I don't want to take a mood stabilizer. They all suck big time making me swell or constipated. Just aint gonna take one until I think I'm God or speaking in tongues. And if the occassional benzo is all I need to quell any so called "hypomania" which is really more like occasional goofiness and immaturity and nothing more severe do I really need one? I never act on my impulses, and I'm not even sure it's hypomania or rather antidepressant induced stupidity that mimics ADHD. My sleep is fantastic no matter what state I'M in except that I need a lot of it...
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> I think the whole managed care way of thinking about people as having THIS and categorically requiring THAT to get better is ridiculous. As we see here on the very forum it doesn't work.
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> Scott
Posted by Ron Hill on January 6, 2002, at 17:25:04
In reply to Re: BP 2 Question, posted by Mr. Scott on January 6, 2002, at 12:53:39
Scott,
After sending my prior post I realized that it now cost money to access the on-line diagnosis test. It used to be free. It is a good test, but you can probably find a simillar test somewhere on the web that does not cost money.
Sorry for the confusion!
-- Ron
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> Where can I find such a questionaire?
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> Scott
Posted by Psydoc on January 6, 2002, at 18:01:13
In reply to Re: BP 2 Question » Mr. Scott, posted by Ron Hill on January 6, 2002, at 16:55:18
While the Goldberg Mania Scale is useful to quantify the severity of mania/hypomania it is not useful as a screening tool for Bipolar Disorder.
A useful screening questionnaire may be found at:
http://www.ndmda.org/screening.asp
Best regards . . .
Ivan Goldberg
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Posted by IsoM on January 6, 2002, at 23:57:40
In reply to Re: BP 2 Question, posted by Mr. Scott on January 6, 2002, at 12:53:39
Posted by Mr. Scott on January 7, 2002, at 20:46:02
In reply to Re: BP 2 Question » Mr. Scott, posted by Ron Hill on January 6, 2002, at 16:55:18
Thanks Ron! I'm checking them out now.
Scott
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