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Posted by Panic AttacK on December 7, 2001, at 21:40:35
HeLLo... Im back. I have posted here many many many times before [xxx] but changed my username. I have been trying to get help for my panic/anxiety attacks for a long time but cant get any help! I am very sensitive to SSRI's . I have tried Paxil {horrible}, Zoloft, etc... it made my panic attacks so severe i went to the ER 3 times! I couldnt sleep. Lately i havent really been having panic attacks.. I dont know how to explain it. It is more like anxiety attack. It happens when i try to go to sleep. My heart starts racing and my mind wont stop THINKING. It wont shut up. My eyes start fluttering.... but ill be miserably tired and weak and sleepy!!!! BUT my heart wont slow da fuk down. SO I occasionally take a little tiny tiny piece of remeron to KNOCK ME OUT. Xanax wont even put me to sleep. Remeron is the only drug that Puts me to sleep whenever im having anxiety attacks. I have a couple "trial" packs of Celexa and im thinking if trying it. But im scared. I hate SSRIs....its horrible. Can somebody give me advice please... should i try Celexa? Is it going to gove me the same side effects as did the pAXIL AND ZOLOFT? its basically the same stuff right? I have a prescription for BuSpar but never got it filled. No $$$.... but maybe I should just fill the BuSpar??? Please help me... i dont know what to do. I cant live my life feeling like this everyday. I cant sleep at night... i cant wake up in the morning... when i AM awake... i feel like crap... when im sleeping im tossing and turning. I need all facts and experiences from Celexa and BuSpar Thanks. By the way... I am a 21 F in Florida. *Cynthia*
Posted by Elizabeth on December 8, 2001, at 0:46:07
In reply to ANXIETY!!!, posted by Panic AttacK on December 7, 2001, at 21:40:35
It's well documented that BuSpar is ineffective in panic disorder. If this is what you have, then you should not have been prescribed this drug.
Many people with panic disorder are hypersensitive to antidepressants, especially SSRIs. The trick with is you start at a very low dose (you can do this easily by taking small volumes of the liquid Prozac, which I think contains 4 mg/mL) and increasing it very slowly.
The obvious alternative would be to take a benzodiazepine. The ones that are best documented as being effective for panic disorder are Klonopin, Xanax, and Ativan.
Since these attacks only happen when you're trying to get to sleep, and since Xanax doesn't work, I wonder whether your problem might be something other than panic disorder.
Finally, is there a problem with continuing to use the Remeron at bedtime? Because that seems to be working for you.
-elizabeth
Posted by IsoM on December 8, 2001, at 3:52:21
In reply to ANXIETY!!!, posted by Panic AttacK on December 7, 2001, at 21:40:35
Cynthia, I can only give you my own experience. While some SSRIs have worked for me previously, I hate the way they feel on the whole but I'm now on Celexa. It's worked very well for me & amazingly quickly. Within a week, I felt so much better & no other antidepressant has ever done it that fast. I generally have to wait about a month. My 19 year old son found it worked that fast too.
Trouble is after a couple of months of working great, we both started going downhill fast. We both played around with other meds - my son decided he didn't want anything anymore but after a year, I went back on Celexa.
I never got the quick feeling like before but this time it's lasted for a little over a year so far. Hopefully, it'll continue. It seems in reading over the posts here, for more people than not, Celexa doesn't work for them but I love it. No side-effects that I can tell.
I never was prone to panic-attacks but when I was trying different meds to find one that worked, I started having something like panic attacks. I don't know if they were the real thing, but I'd wake in the middle of the night - no nightmare, but just heart racing, so terrified of all the "problems" that seemed insurmountable in my life. They were, physically, the most horrifying feelings. I knew what to expect but to experience it was horrid. I still tremble when I think of it. I had trouble sleeping thinking of these problems too. When I found what worked for me, all these 'attacks' faded away. Is it perhaps something similar to what you have?
> HeLLo... Im back. I have posted here many many many times before [xxx] but changed my username. I have been trying to get help for my panic/anxiety attacks for a long time but cant get any help! I am very sensitive to SSRI's . I have tried Paxil {horrible}, Zoloft, etc... it made my panic attacks so severe i went to the ER 3 times! I couldnt sleep. Lately i havent really been having panic attacks.. I dont know how to explain it. It is more like anxiety attack. It happens when i try to go to sleep. My heart starts racing and my mind wont stop THINKING. It wont shut up. My eyes start fluttering.... but ill be miserably tired and weak and sleepy!!!! BUT my heart wont slow da fuk down. SO I occasionally take a little tiny tiny piece of remeron to KNOCK ME OUT. Xanax wont even put me to sleep. Remeron is the only drug that Puts me to sleep whenever im having anxiety attacks. I have a couple "trial" packs of Celexa and im thinking if trying it. But im scared. I hate SSRIs....its horrible. Can somebody give me advice please... should i try Celexa? Is it going to gove me the same side effects as did the pAXIL AND ZOLOFT? its basically the same stuff right? I have a prescription for BuSpar but never got it filled. No $$$.... but maybe I should just fill the BuSpar??? Please help me... i dont know what to do. I cant live my life feeling like this everyday. I cant sleep at night... i cant wake up in the morning... when i AM awake... i feel like crap... when im sleeping im tossing and turning. I need all facts and experiences from Celexa and BuSpar Thanks. By the way... I am a 21 F in Florida. *Cynthia*
Posted by judy1 on December 8, 2001, at 3:57:32
In reply to Re: ANXIETY!!! » Panic AttacK, posted by Elizabeth on December 8, 2001, at 0:46:07
I'm going to agree with Elizabeth because I also suffer from panic attacks and found relief through benzos. SSRI's, despite the push that drs. and pharmaceutical cos do are not the proper med. I take 6mg klonopin/day and 1-2mg xanax sub-ling for breakthrough attacks. I have never raised my dose in 4 years. Benzos are not supposed to put you to sleep only stop panic attacks. If you are suffering from nocturnal attacks (the most common in true PAD), then your dose of xanax or klonopin is not high enough. You need to see a specialist in panic disorder and not a regular pdoc. I wish you the best, until mine were under control it was hell- judy
Posted by Elizabeth on December 8, 2001, at 10:21:11
In reply to Re: ANXIETY!!!, posted by judy1 on December 8, 2001, at 3:57:32
> I take 6mg klonopin/day and 1-2mg xanax sub-ling for breakthrough attacks.
Just a note -- dissolving Xanax under your tongue can be unpleasant because it's very bitter tasting. Ativan can be used this way as well, and it's pretty flavorless.
-elizabeth
Posted by jay on December 9, 2001, at 14:22:34
In reply to ANXIETY!!!, posted by Panic AttacK on December 7, 2001, at 21:40:35
> HeLLo... Im back. I have posted here many many many times before [xxx] but changed my username. I have been trying to get help for my panic/anxiety attacks for a long time but cant get any help! I am very sensitive to SSRI's . I have tried Paxil {horrible}, Zoloft, etc... it made my panic attacks so severe i went to the ER 3 times! I couldnt sleep. Lately i havent really been having panic attacks.. I dont know how to explain it. It is more like anxiety attack. It happens when i try to go to sleep. My heart starts racing and my mind wont stop THINKING. It wont shut up. My eyes start fluttering.... but ill be miserably tired and weak and sleepy!!!! BUT my heart wont slow da fuk down. SO I occasionally take a little tiny tiny piece of remeron to KNOCK ME OUT. Xanax wont even put me to sleep. Remeron is the only drug that Puts me to sleep whenever im having anxiety attacks. I have a couple "trial" packs of Celexa and im thinking if trying it. But im scared. I hate SSRIs....its horrible. Can somebody give me advice please... should i try Celexa? Is it going to gove me the same side effects as did the pAXIL AND ZOLOFT? its basically the same stuff right? I have a prescription for BuSpar but never got it filled. No $$$.... but maybe I should just fill the BuSpar??? Please help me... i dont know what to do. I cant live my life feeling like this everyday. I cant sleep at night... i cant wake up in the morning... when i AM awake... i feel like crap... when im sleeping im tossing and turning. I need all facts and experiences from Celexa and BuSpar Thanks. By the way... I am a 21 F in Florida. *Cynthia*
If you can get a small dose of an SRI, with a good dose of a benzo, you might be able to tolerate the meds better. Those with anxiety as a predominant symptom have a very hard time with antidepressants. I don't know about the Buspar...it still seems to come nowhere near effectiveness to benzos for anxiety.
ALthough, I am from Canada, and I find more doctors have no problem prescribing a benzo along with an antidepressant here. Maybe it's just a U.S. thing, as your doctors have to fill out forms and submit them to a rediculous government agency.
Try to find a doc who will help you give it a shot, as I know many with anxiety problems who have been greatly helped over many years with a benzo/a.d. combo.
Best wishes...
Jay
Posted by leonard60 on December 10, 2001, at 13:39:20
In reply to ANXIETY!!!, posted by Panic AttacK on December 7, 2001, at 21:40:35
I have Tried many of the SSRI's an the only one that did not give me side effect was celexa,
maybe this will be the same for you. it is probable worth a try. I now take benzos (kolonipin and Xanex) they work good and am juxt starting a MAOI (Parnate) i can tell how It work In afew weeks.
Posted by tina on December 12, 2001, at 15:39:47
In reply to ANXIETY!!!, posted by Panic AttacK on December 7, 2001, at 21:40:35
I can't take SSRI's either. I've tried several and the tiniest dose makes my anxiety go through the roof.
I had my greatest success on Manerix/Aurorix with klonopin.
I get the racing heart and over-analysation just as my head hits the pillow, every night. Most nights I just get up after a few minutes and plug a movie into the vcr or turn on the computer. I am a hopeless insomniac now.
> HeLLo... Im back. I have posted here many many many times before [xxx] but changed my username. I have been trying to get help for my panic/anxiety attacks for a long time but cant get any help! I am very sensitive to SSRI's . I have tried Paxil {horrible}, Zoloft, etc... it made my panic attacks so severe i went to the ER 3 times! I couldnt sleep. Lately i havent really been having panic attacks.. I dont know how to explain it. It is more like anxiety attack. It happens when i try to go to sleep. My heart starts racing and my mind wont stop THINKING. It wont shut up. My eyes start fluttering.... but ill be miserably tired and weak and sleepy!!!! BUT my heart wont slow da fuk down. SO I occasionally take a little tiny tiny piece of remeron to KNOCK ME OUT. Xanax wont even put me to sleep. Remeron is the only drug that Puts me to sleep whenever im having anxiety attacks. I have a couple "trial" packs of Celexa and im thinking if trying it. But im scared. I hate SSRIs....its horrible. Can somebody give me advice please... should i try Celexa? Is it going to gove me the same side effects as did the pAXIL AND ZOLOFT? its basically the same stuff right? I have a prescription for BuSpar but never got it filled. No $$$.... but maybe I should just fill the BuSpar??? Please help me... i dont know what to do. I cant live my life feeling like this everyday. I cant sleep at night... i cant wake up in the morning... when i AM awake... i feel like crap... when im sleeping im tossing and turning. I need all facts and experiences from Celexa and BuSpar Thanks. By the way... I am a 21 F in Florida. *Cynthia*
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