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Posted by jimmygold70 on April 13, 2001, at 15:26:58
I am suffering from Social phobia and borderline personality disorder. I know drugs that work for rapid cycling bipolar are brescribed to borderlines and vice versa.
My question is: do you see a place for Neurontin in the treatment of BPD combined with Social Phobia ? I know they have found it effective in SP and doing much research with pregabalin (which is supposed to be similar).
Thanks,
Jimmy Goldman
Posted by PolarBear on April 13, 2001, at 16:36:13
In reply to Richemson: Neurotnin for Rapid Cycling Bipolar ?, posted by jimmygold70 on April 13, 2001, at 15:26:58
Jimmy,
Have you checked this site on gabapentin (Neurontin)?
http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.gabapentin.html
In addition to the FAQ, you can follow some of the references at the end to Medline abstracts.
My personal experience is that Neurontin:
1. is initially sedating;
2. is quick-acting (like a benzo);
3. does have pretty-good anti-anxiety properties, and can help with depressive thinking, hypersensitivity, and irritability;
4. was not a very strong long-term mood-stabilizer for me.
If I ramped up the dose too quickly, it made me feel "out of it" for a few hours, but it does not seem to have any other side effects for me. I would suspect it might help a lot with social phobia.
I wish you luck.> I am suffering from Social phobia and borderline personality disorder. I know drugs that work for rapid cycling bipolar are brescribed to borderlines and vice versa.
>
> My question is: do you see a place for Neurontin in the treatment of BPD combined with Social Phobia ? I know they have found it effective in SP and doing much research with pregabalin (which is supposed to be similar).
>
> Thanks,
> Jimmy Goldman
Posted by SLS on April 13, 2001, at 19:01:29
In reply to Re: Richemson: Neurotnin for Rapid Cycling Bipolar ?, posted by PolarBear on April 13, 2001, at 16:36:13
> Jimmy,
> Have you checked this site on gabapentin (Neurontin)?
> http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.gabapentin.html
> In addition to the FAQ, you can follow some of the references at the end to Medline abstracts.
> My personal experience is that Neurontin:
> 1. is initially sedating;
> 2. is quick-acting (like a benzo);
> 3. does have pretty-good anti-anxiety properties, and can help with depressive thinking, hypersensitivity, and irritability;
> 4. was not a very strong long-term mood-stabilizer for me.
> If I ramped up the dose too quickly, it made me feel "out of it" for a few hours, but it does not seem to have any other side effects for me. I would suspect it might help a lot with social phobia.
> I wish you luck.
>
> > I am suffering from Social phobia and borderline personality disorder. I know drugs that work for rapid cycling bipolar are brescribed to borderlines and vice versa.
> >
> > My question is: do you see a place for Neurontin in the treatment of BPD combined with Social Phobia ? I know they have found it effective in SP and doing much research with pregabalin (which is supposed to be similar).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jimmy Goldman
Hi.It has been proposed that abnormal activity in the temporal lobes, perhaps initiated by events in the limbic system (particularly the amygdala), might be involved with social anxiety and panic attacks. Such things have been seen in people with temporal lobe epilepsy and lesions in these limbic areas. It is thought that Neurontin might help these forms of anxiety by stabilizing temporal lobe activity.
- Scott
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 19, 2001, at 8:53:58
In reply to Richemson: Neurotnin for Rapid Cycling Bipolar ?, posted by jimmygold70 on April 13, 2001, at 15:26:58
> My question is: do you see a place for Neurontin in the treatment of BPD combined with Social Phobia ? I know they have found it effective in SP and doing much research with pregabalin (which is supposed to be similar).
I don't know of any controlled studies of Neurontin in borderline personality disorder. However, if nothing else is working, I would consider giving this medication a try.
Posted by storm on April 19, 2001, at 17:52:45
In reply to Re: Neurotnin for BPD: Dr. Richelson responds, posted by Dr. Bob on April 19, 2001, at 8:53:58
I have been taking it in combination with lithium for a couple months now. nothing else had helped at all, but adding the neurontin practically cut the mania feeling down to half. I am probably more greatful for that than any other med I've taken. the mania I feel is very little now; my mind doesn't keep spinning like it used to.
> > My question is: do you see a place for Neurontin in the treatment of BPD combined with Social Phobia ? I know they have found it effective in SP and doing much research with pregabalin (which is supposed to be similar).
>
> I don't know of any controlled studies of Neurontin in borderline personality disorder. However, if nothing else is working, I would consider giving this medication a try.
Posted by Lin on April 22, 2001, at 16:47:36
In reply to Re: Neurotnin for BPD: Dr. Richelson responds, posted by storm on April 19, 2001, at 17:52:45
What doses of each are you on? I am on 1200 mg lithium and 2400 mg Neurontin. I have bipolar AND temporal lobe epilepsy. I am wondering if I can replace the lithium altogether with the Neurontin. Do you know anything about this?
I have been taking it in combination with lithium for a couple months now. nothing else had helped at all, but adding the neurontin practically cut the mania feeling down to half. I am probably more greatful for that than any other med I've taken. the mania I feel is very little now; my mind doesn't keep spinning like it used to.
>
> > > My question is: do you see a place for Neurontin in the treatment of BPD combined with Social Phobia ? I know they have found it effective in SP and doing much research with pregabalin (which is supposed to be similar).
> >
> > I don't know of any controlled studies of Neurontin in borderline personality disorder. However, if nothing else is working, I would consider giving this medication a try.
Posted by storm on April 23, 2001, at 17:05:18
In reply to Neurontin sufficient for BPD/ replacement for lith » storm, posted by Lin on April 22, 2001, at 16:47:36
I'm really sorry I didn't see you posted earlier. I'm on 900 mg of lithium and only 1200 mg of neurontin. from what I've read, it seems like you need both drugs in combination to work that well. but I am not completely sure about that. for myself, I'm not taking a chance and going to just the neurontin, it's been like a miracle for me; I can't take a chance. but I think that of all the drugs I have tried it is interesting that neurontin would work so well. I had given up on concentration completely. best wishes, Christy
> What doses of each are you on? I am on 1200 mg lithium and 2400 mg Neurontin. I have bipolar AND temporal lobe epilepsy. I am wondering if I can replace the lithium altogether with the Neurontin. Do you know anything about this?
>
>
>
> I have been taking it in combination with lithium for a couple months now. nothing else had helped at all, but adding the neurontin practically cut the mania feeling down to half. I am probably more greatful for that than any other med I've taken. the mania I feel is very little now; my mind doesn't keep spinning like it used to.
> >
> > > > My question is: do you see a place for Neurontin in the treatment of BPD combined with Social Phobia ? I know they have found it effective in SP and doing much research with pregabalin (which is supposed to be similar).
> > >
> > > I don't know of any controlled studies of Neurontin in borderline personality disorder. However, if nothing else is working, I would consider giving this medication a try.
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