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Posted by JEFFREY TICE on April 13, 2000, at 13:17:20
AM CURRENTLY TAKING COMBO OF NARDIL 105MG. DEXEDRINE 60MG. AND REBOXETINE (VESTRA)8MG. /DAILY.
BEST COMBO I'VE BEEN ON. VERY FEW SIDE EFFECTS SINCE STARTING REBOXETINE 2WEEKS AGO.
HOWEVER, THIS IS A VERY TRICKY COMBO. SO ONLY DO IT WITH A GOOD PSYCHIATRIST.
Posted by Scott L. Schofield on April 13, 2000, at 15:19:53
In reply to REBOXETINE, posted by JEFFREY TICE on April 13, 2000, at 13:17:20
> AM CURRENTLY TAKING COMBO OF NARDIL 105MG. DEXEDRINE 60MG. AND REBOXETINE (VESTRA)8MG. /DAILY.
> BEST COMBO I'VE BEEN ON. VERY FEW SIDE EFFECTS SINCE STARTING REBOXETINE 2WEEKS AGO.
> HOWEVER, THIS IS A VERY TRICKY COMBO. SO ONLY DO IT WITH A GOOD PSYCHIATRIST.What precautions did you take when you first started this combination treatment?
How did you go about finding the optimum dosages of each drug to bring about such a good response? Was it that tricky?
My doctor was willing to use reboxetine and Nardil in combination. Unfortunately, I suffered a negative psychiatric reaction to reboxetine and was forced to discontinue it.
I wish you continued success.
- Scott
Posted by kazoo on April 14, 2000, at 0:18:36
In reply to REBOXETINE, posted by JEFFREY TICE on April 13, 2000, at 13:17:20
> AM CURRENTLY TAKING COMBO OF NARDIL 105MG. DEXEDRINE 60MG. AND REBOXETINE (VESTRA)8MG. /DAILY.
> BEST COMBO I'VE BEEN ON. VERY FEW SIDE EFFECTS SINCE STARTING REBOXETINE 2WEEKS AGO.
> HOWEVER, THIS IS A VERY TRICKY COMBO. SO ONLY DO IT WITH A GOOD PSYCHIATRIST.^^^^^^^^^^^^
Good grief!
You certainly have a DYNAMIC doctor, to say the least! Are you in the USA?
Vestra hasn't been approved for human consumption in the US, so I'm wondering what sort of doctor
would condone the use of a drug that must be obtained via sources outside their domaine?
(If you are not in the US, then ignore the previous sentence.)
On top of that, I'm extremely weary of strange combinations of drugs, especially those which contraindicate
each other; i.e., NARDIL and DEXEDRINE. By all conventional wisdom, this cocktail should not work.
If it does, more power to you, and congratulations: you're one of the few people who can take these two
chemicals together without getting a stroke.
Just remember to avoid DEMEROL because a NARDIL/DEMEROL mix will lead to an eternal dirt nap.
Yowie!Greetings to Jeffrey Tice
kazoo
Posted by Scott L. Schofield on April 14, 2000, at 9:29:05
In reply to Re: REBOXETINE, posted by kazoo on April 14, 2000, at 0:18:36
> > AM CURRENTLY TAKING COMBO OF NARDIL 105MG. DEXEDRINE 60MG. AND REBOXETINE (VESTRA)8MG. /DAILY.
> > BEST COMBO I'VE BEEN ON. VERY FEW SIDE EFFECTS SINCE STARTING REBOXETINE 2WEEKS AGO.
> > HOWEVER, THIS IS A VERY TRICKY COMBO. SO ONLY DO IT WITH A GOOD PSYCHIATRIST.> Good grief!
> You certainly have a DYNAMIC doctor, to say the least! Are you in the USA?
> Vestra hasn't been approved for human consumption in the US, so I'm wondering what sort of doctor
> would condone the use of a drug that must be obtained via sources outside their domaine?My doctor did far more than condone it, he advocated it. I guess such a decision makes more sense when a history of treatment failures is taken into consideration. It can be a matter of life or death. I am still not aware of all of the legal considerations in doing this. I have found a great deal of contradictory information on this topic.
As I said in my previous post, my doctor was in favor of adding Nardil to reboxetine, had I not experienced a severe reaction to it.
> On top of that, I'm extremely weary of strange combinations of drugs, especially those which contraindicate
> each other; i.e., NARDIL and DEXEDRINE.Strangeness is in the eye of the beholder. Wariness is prudent.
> By all conventional wisdom, this cocktail should not work.
I don't believe this statement can be regarded as being true.
> If it does, more power to you, and congratulations: you're one of the few people who can take these two chemicals together without getting a stroke.
I have been on a combination of Parnate + desipramine + Dexedrine + Synthroid.
I have also been on combinations of Nardil + (desipramine or imipramine).
I believe that these combinations have been used by others, although perhaps infrequently. My doctor did want me to hang out in his office for a while after I took my first dose of Dexedrine so as to monitor blood pressure. I don't know what other precautions can be taken, but I am aware of other doctors who prefer to monitor for an initial reaction to this sort of thing in the hospital. I think I came across some information regarding such combinations on this site and at Dr. Ivan Goldberg's Depression Central psychiatric website.
http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.html
I have seen "stranger" combinations than these posted here. "Under the influence" of AndrewB, JohnL, and others, I am beginning to contemplate stranger combinations still.
> Just remember to avoid DEMEROL because a NARDIL/DEMEROL mix will lead to an eternal dirt nap.
This is one hell of an image. Yuck! I was not aware of this interaction until Elizabeth mentioned it in one of her posts. Thanks for the potent reinforcement, kazoo.
- Scott> Yowie!
Posted by JEFFREY TICE on April 14, 2000, at 10:18:00
In reply to Re: Reboxetine + Nardil combination, posted by Scott L. Schofield on April 14, 2000, at 9:29:05
> > > AM CURRENTLY TAKING COMBO OF NARDIL 105MG. DEXEDRINE 60MG. AND REBOXETINE (VESTRA)8MG. /DAILY.
> > > BEST COMBO I'VE BEEN ON. VERY FEW SIDE EFFECTS SINCE STARTING REBOXETINE 2WEEKS AGO.
> > > HOWEVER, THIS IS A VERY TRICKY COMBO. SO ONLY DO IT WITH A GOOD PSYCHIATRIST.
>
> > Good grief!
> > You certainly have a DYNAMIC doctor, to say the least! Are you in the USA?
> > Vestra hasn't been approved for human consumption in the US, so I'm wondering what sort of doctor
> > would condone the use of a drug that must be obtained via sources outside their domaine?
>
> My doctor did far more than condone it, he advocated it. I guess such a decision makes more sense when a history of treatment failures is taken into consideration. It can be a matter of life or death. I am still not aware of all of the legal considerations in doing this. I have found a great deal of contradictory information on this topic.
>
> As I said in my previous post, my doctor was in favor of adding Nardil to reboxetine, had I not experienced a severe reaction to it.
>
> > On top of that, I'm extremely weary of strange combinations of drugs, especially those which contraindicate
> > each other; i.e., NARDIL and DEXEDRINE.
>
> Strangeness is in the eye of the beholder. Wariness is prudent.
>
> > By all conventional wisdom, this cocktail should not work.
>
> I don't believe this statement can be regarded as being true.
>
> > If it does, more power to you, and congratulations: you're one of the few people who can take these two chemicals together without getting a stroke.
>
> I have been on a combination of Parnate + desipramine + Dexedrine + Synthroid.
>
> I have also been on combinations of Nardil + (desipramine or imipramine).
>
> I believe that these combinations have been used by others, although perhaps infrequently. My doctor did want me to hang out in his office for a while after I took my first dose of Dexedrine so as to monitor blood pressure. I don't know what other precautions can be taken, but I am aware of other doctors who prefer to monitor for an initial reaction to this sort of thing in the hospital. I think I came across some information regarding such combinations on this site and at Dr. Ivan Goldberg's Depression Central psychiatric website.
>
> http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.html
>
> I have seen "stranger" combinations than these posted here. "Under the influence" of AndrewB, JohnL, and others, I am beginning to contemplate stranger combinations still.
>
> > Just remember to avoid DEMEROL because a NARDIL/DEMEROL mix will lead to an eternal dirt nap.
>
> This is one hell of an image. Yuck! I was not aware of this interaction until Elizabeth mentioned it in one of her posts. Thanks for the potent reinforcement, kazoo.
>
>
> - Scott
>
> > Yowie!
I GUESS IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THIS
DRUG COMBO OR NOT; YOU MIGHT WANT TO RESEARCH IT
FURTHER. REBOXETINE MIXED WITH ALMOST ANY OTHER
DRUGS IS SAFE. THERE CAN BE PROBLEMS WITH DEXEDRINE
AND AN MAO LIKE NARDIL OR PARNATE, BUT A GOOD PSYCH. DOC
SHOULD BE ABLE TO MANAGE THIS FAIRLY EASILY.
REBOXETINE HAS BEEN USED SAFELY FOR ALMOST 2 YRS IN PARTS OF
EUROPE. JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT FDA APPROVED YET DOES
NOT MAKE IT OFF LIMITS FOR THE AMERICAN CONSUMER.
A 3 MO. PERSONAL SUPPLY CAN BE ORDERED LEGALLY FROM LONDON.
JUST LET YOUR DOCTOR KNOW ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND TO MAKE SURE
HE/SHE IS IN AGREEMENT, THEN GO AHEAD AND ORDER IT.
NO RX IS NECESSARY WHICH PROTECTS YOUR DOC FROM ANY LIABILITY.JEFFREY
Posted by kazoo on April 14, 2000, at 12:34:53
In reply to Re: Reboxetine + Nardil combination, posted by JEFFREY TICE on April 14, 2000, at 10:18:00
> I GUESS IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THIS
> DRUG COMBO OR NOT; YOU MIGHT WANT TO RESEARCH IT
> FURTHER. REBOXETINE MIXED WITH ALMOST ANY OTHER
> DRUGS IS SAFE. THERE CAN BE PROBLEMS WITH DEXEDRINE
> AND AN MAO LIKE NARDIL OR PARNATE, BUT A GOOD PSYCH. DOC
> SHOULD BE ABLE TO MANAGE THIS FAIRLY EASILY.
> REBOXETINE HAS BEEN USED SAFELY FOR ALMOST 2 YRS IN PARTS OF
> EUROPE. JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT FDA APPROVED YET DOES
> NOT MAKE IT OFF LIMITS FOR THE AMERICAN CONSUMER.
> A 3 MO. PERSONAL SUPPLY CAN BE ORDERED LEGALLY FROM LONDON.
> JUST LET YOUR DOCTOR KNOW ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND TO MAKE SURE
> HE/SHE IS IN AGREEMENT, THEN GO AHEAD AND ORDER IT.
> NO RX IS NECESSARY WHICH PROTECTS YOUR DOC FROM ANY LIABILITY.
>
> JEFFREYJeffrey: you must be a COBOL programmer! :-) kazoo
Posted by rica on August 7, 2001, at 23:04:11
In reply to Re: Reboxetine / Nardil / Dexedrine Combo, posted by Scott L. Schofield on April 13, 2000, at 15:19:53
> > AM CURRENTLY TAKING COMBO OF NARDIL 105MG. DEXEDRINE 60MG. AND REBOXETINE (VESTRA)8MG. /DAILY.
> > BEST COMBO I'VE BEEN ON. VERY FEW SIDE EFFECTS SINCE STARTING REBOXETINE 2WEEKS AGO.
> > HOWEVER, THIS IS A VERY TRICKY COMBO. SO ONLY DO IT WITH A GOOD PSYCHIATRIST.
>
From some of the postings that I have read it seems like alot of people have found some really great Psychiatrists, that really know their med. combinations. I my self have been in search for a really good Psychiatrist, haven't been able to find one and would really like a referral to one that someone has found highly recommened as I am on several combinations that keep me at a certain level but aren't enough and maybe not the right combination. Any suggestions for Psychiatrists in the NJ, PA, MD, or NY area?
>
> RICA
>
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