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Re: Atheist in NA » spriggy

Posted by alexandra_k on November 25, 2005, at 17:14:59

In reply to Re: Atheist in NA, posted by spriggy on November 25, 2005, at 14:32:49

> One thing I find very interesting ( mind you, I am a Christian), is that people seem to have to work very, very hard in convincing themselves they don't need God or that He doesn't exist.

???

I haven't found that to be the case for me...
Regarding the existence of God...
If you are talking about omni-god
(an external agency who is all powerful, all loving, and all good / benevolent) then...
I think the very notion is self-contradictory
Hence necessarily false
Hence such a God cannot possibly exist.

People debate this...
But I have to say, thats my take.

With respect to needing God...
God doesn't buy me anything I can't get without God.
A reason to be a good person
A reason to have hope
A reason to be kind and compassionate to others
A reason to have good company with like minded individuals

And the costs...

Some people manage to get to spirituality via religions
Other people manage to get to spirituality without religion; without the notion of god (omnigod); without the notion of a higher power (a manifestation of omni-god).

(IMO) The trouble with religion...
Is that oftentimes it does not lead to spirituality
And yet... The majority of religions sell themselves as the 'only way'
And religious doctines have been used to justify all kinds of horrible acts.

Scientists used to run the risk of being killed for saying things that went against church doctrine.

The earth goes around the sun...
God doesn't exist...
People are mammals who evolved via the processes of natural selection just like all the other mammals...

> My personal opinion is because He engrained in us ( in our creation) the need to know Him- which is why nearly everyone at some point in their life seeks to find Him or asks, " Are you real God?"

Trademark. Who was it... Descartes. He had the trademark argument for the existence of God. God is the master craftsman and he placed his trademark on his creation. Every person has one. The idea of God.

There are alternative theories as to where the idea of God came from...

 

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