Posted by Impermanence on June 10, 2004, at 22:46:15
In reply to Re: Thanks Caper -Impermanence Re:ME ME ME » Impermanence, posted by arrie on June 9, 2004, at 23:32:00
Hay Arrie, I'm really sorry to hear about your Mum and Dad, thats so sad, I will think of them in my prayers. Yep I'm from the U.K.
I know you think you might die during cold turky but believe me it's unlikely unless kill yourself to escape the pain and fear, yes I know there is a chance of going into convulsions but the chances of that are so small it's not something to worry about. I know the panic you can feel will trick you into thinking anything. You have been taking Vicodin for so long now your mind and body need it to function normally and when you cut down the craving you feel can send you into a frenzy and it seems unbearable both mentally and physically, your body is telling your brain it needs the vicodin to work properly but it dosen't, this is addiction, it's hell, I know. Even if you did get off it cold turky you still have the mental addiction to deal with which can play with you for a long time after you get off the drug. I suggest you try to taper off slowly on this batch and keep going to see your doctor so he can monitor and guide you. If you keep failing I think you should go to a treatment center. It's so hard to go it alone, but remember you're not alone, there is so many of us out there going through the same or far worse symptoms. I've abused just about everything and I feel your pain, you can do this. Just don't delude yourself. You have another 50 pills now and all thats going to do is keep you a slave to Vicodin for a little longer. You don't need it, your body just needs to relearn how to live without it.I know you ment well saying "can you just drink in moderation" but just dosen't work like that when you're an alcoholic, drinking is not an option if you ever really want to get better. Once a drink passes my lips I have to get drunk, I just can't help myself, I wish I could.
I'm sorry but I don't think it's such a good idea to be so easy going about your son smoking weed, what age is he? I started smoking weed at the age of twelve and was a cronic stoner (up to an ounce a week) for ten years. I'm only recently off the crap but I'm sure it's been the root cause of much of my mental illness and addiction. I know the sedative side of cannabis could be of use to him but you must remember it's also an hallucinogenic and being as he's already bipolar this could cause serious adverse effects after years of abuse. It could even lead to schizophrenia. People don't take weed as serious as they should, I know I diden't. Over here we get extremely strong skunk and hash so maybe my experience is different.
You wanted to know how long my battle with the bottle has been going on so here's a post I wrote to Caper not so long ago (I'm lazy, I know) http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/subs/20040409/msgs/350296.html. Truth is it's more of a battle with addiction in general, drugs took far more from me than alcohol but in saying that the most horrific withdrawals have been alcohol and believe me I've had comedowns like you woulden't believe on massive amounts of class a.
I'm now dependent on benzodiazepines too, I started them about 19 months ago to try and get some life back and all they have done is give me another problem!!! Ahhh such is life lol.You take care of yourself Arrie, you have so much beautiful life to live free of that bloody Vicodin. It has such a hold on you. I pray you will get off it. Think about going into a treatment center. It's so hard to do it by yourself.
Lot's of love. xxxxx
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