Posted by alexandra_k on September 25, 2013, at 6:48:44
In reply to Re: the commons, posted by alexandra_k on September 25, 2013, at 5:57:17
I feel like the topic has been changed somewhat... I feel that some people DO suffer in current commons-type situations because they have MORE of a social conscience. These might be situations that are objectively seen to be 'working'. Perhaps they might even be cases that Ostrom would consider 'successfully managed'. But they might be managed such that the sensitive individuals with social conscience are in fact carrying more of the load. Is such a situation sustainable? People have managed to successfully exploit others over considerable periods of time...
Most of the time I opt out of co-operative activity. Because I don't trust my ability to objectively assess the nature of my contribution. I think that I've f*ck*d up the math somehow... That I've calculated things wrong...
But really...
For much of my life...
People have guilt tripped me into contributing much more than my share. Because they can. Because it has a short term pay-off for them. Of course I avoid them (everyone) where possible because the stress of the social interaction (the constant guilt of feeling like a selfish individual) makes it unpleasant for me. But that is a longer term thing that doesn't really feature into their calculus.
It creates problems for me because it means I've learned to avoid co-operative activity - and I've had some fairer people make better offers since. And I've dropped the ball... Because of my past... And then these present people think that I'm un-co-operative... I think they get it is more of a 'can't' than my purposely trying to cheat them... But I need to turn it into a 'can' or I write myself off.
It is hard.
People here... They want me to lead. They keep trying to do stupid things. At the moment they are trying to put us on dishwashing detergent rations. That is a matter of basic food hygene (I've brought dishwashing detergent for our house a couple times and we don't go through more than $2 not-bulk supermarket purchase per week - we do not need to be put on f*ck*ng rations). SOMEONE is supposed to STAND UP...
Someone... Can't do their f*ck*ng job of filling up the detergent properly. Could they be given a simpler job? I really don't think that is possible... I suppose the 4 day time delay might be excusable somehow... But then only filling it half way?
Someone really is attention starved...
I don't know what the f*ck to say.
On this occasion: I opt out. I buy my own detergent now. I have my own dishes, too (so I don't get the household sick virus from unwashed dishes ever again).
Must the common people live like pigs?
Really?
No. F*ck*ng. Way.
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