Posted by Quintal on March 14, 2007, at 3:42:45 [reposted on March 24, 2007, at 22:35:19 | original URL]
In reply to Re: Scientology, Homosexuality, and its tentacles » Quintal, posted by yxibow on March 14, 2007, at 3:02:42
>as a gay male I run screaming.............
That's pretty much what they're saying here with reference to the character of homosexuals, and the value of people to society lying partly in their ability to deal with truth;
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"The tone scale is a characterization of human mood and behaviour by various positions on a scale. The scale ranges from -40 ("Total Failure") to 40 ("Serenity of Being"). Positions on the tone scale are usually designated by an emotion, but Hubbard also described many other things that can be indicated by the tone scale levels, such as aspects of a human's health, mating behaviour, survival potential, or ability to deal with truth. The tone scale is frequently used by Scientologists to evaluate humans. According to Scientology, the lower the individual is on the tone scale, the more complex and convoluted one's problems tend to be, and the more care and judgment should be exercised regarding communication and interaction with that individual."
"Hubbard further defined perversion in his 1951 book Science of Survival: Prediction of Human Behaviour. Here he introduced the concept of the "tone scale", a means of classifying individuals and human behaviour on a chart running from 40 (the most beneficial) to -40 (the least beneficial). Sexual perversion, a category in which he included homosexuality, was termed "covert hostility" and given a score of 1.1, "the level of the pervert, the hypocrite, the turncoat, ... the subversive." Such people were "skulking coward[s] who yet contains enough perfidious energy to strike back, but not enough courage ever to give warning."
Hubbard's 1951 book Handbook for Preclears likewise classified homosexuality as "about 1.1 on the tone scale", along with "general promiscuity". He set out what he saw as the cause of homosexuality: a mental "aberration", with the result that "an individual aberrated enough about sex will do strange things to be a cause or an effect. He will substitute punishment for sex. He will pervert others. Homosexuality comes from this manifestation and from the manifestation of life continuation for others." The "aberration" was caused by a child trying to "continue the life" of a dominant parent of the opposite sex. [9]
Hubbard's views on homosexuality were given a fuller explanation in a 1972 book by Scientologist Ruth Minshull, How To Choose Your People, which was published through the Church of Scientology, copyrighted to Hubbard and given "issue authority" by the Scientology hierarchy. Scientology churches sold the book alongside the works of Hubbard until 1983.[10] Minshull described the "the gentle-mannered homosexual" as a classic example of the "subversive" 1.1 personality, commenting that they "may be fearful, sympathetic, propitiative, griefy or apathetic. Occasionally they manage an ineffectual tantrum." They were claimed to be social misfits:
"Homosexuals don't practice love; 1.1s can't. Their relationships consist of: 1) brief, sordid and impersonal meetings or 2) longer arrangements punctuated by dramatic tirades, discords, jealousies and frequent infidelity. It could hardly be otherwise since the tone is made up of suspicion and hate, producing a darling sweetness interspersed with petty peevishness. Their "love" turns to deep contempt eventually." [11]
Homosexuals had no redeeming "social value," in Minshull's view. She cautioned that "homosexuals should not be abused or ridiculed. But a society bent on survival must recognize any aberration as such and seek to raise people out of the low emotion that produces it."___________________________________
I am not a Scientologist and have no intention of becoming one. It was just a surprise to see such an accurate description of the problem written there, along with a potential cure at a time when conventional psychiatry likes to pretend homosexuality is a healthy variation of human sexuality. At the same time pathogenizing other seemingly normal traits like low mood and poor attention span etc. It seems the Scientologists are in the lead when it comes to theories of human sexuality, most psychology textbooks I've read claim it's a genetic/hormonal problem which seems the lazy way out to me. It really won't do at all.
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