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Re: Kara, my turn. How you are doing? » TamaraJ

Posted by KaraS on March 12, 2005, at 22:58:24

In reply to Re: Kara, my turn. How you are doing? » KaraS, posted by TamaraJ on March 11, 2005, at 11:48:23

Hi,

My computer seems to be working again. Don't understand it but my fingers are crossed that it continues to work. Maybe it wasn't a virus at all. Who knows? At any rate, I'm going to try to answer your post and hope that I don't lose everything I type before I get a chance to submit the post.

> -- Too many variables can make it difficult for a novice to "get it right" I guess. A professional may be able to help, but I would imagine that if repressed issues were sabotaging the technique then even someone experienced in tapping may not be able to help. The CES device sounds promising though. And, if it works, it would be a one-time investment which could be used if there was a relapse or simply for maintenance.

I got a little feedback on it from "Elroy". He seems to think it's a good investment so far but I don't think he feels that he could do without meds though. As for the tapping, I haven't been up to working on it lately. My friend my gave me a Reiki treatment this weekend. Hopefully that will help.

> -- I had a exercise bike years ago as well. But, after a while, it became more of a valet (a place to hang clothes, etc.), so I gave it to a friend of mine. I have a mini-stepper and a rebounder that I use from time to time for indoor exercise. I find it hard to stay motivated when I exercise at home. Yet, when I had a gym membership, even when I didn't feel like exercising, once I got to the gym and started a class, I would be motivated. That's why I am thinking of joining a gym again. Seems to motivate me more to exercise. Having a bike will be good as well though. I may even be able to cycle to work once in a while.

Gyms are good for getting you motivated - if you can get yourself there to begin with! (Good thing you got rid of your exercise bik at home. There are better places to hang your clothes.)

> -- That sounds scary about your heart skipping beats :-( Geez I hope you are right and all it is is too much sleep. Has it subsided now or did you experience more missed beats again today? You know, you may actually be able to combine the Anafranil with another AD so you can keep both at a low dose. The pdoc I see had me continue Celexa (at 20mg) while I was on Anafranil. Didn't make a lot of sense to me, but he must have had his reasons. I just hope you can find something you can tolerate and that gives you some therapeutic benefit. I am just glad for you that the Doxepin continues to provide some anxiety relief. I sometimes wonder if doctors realize just how debilitating anxiety can be. I have always found that my depressions have come about after prolonged periods of extreme and severe anxiety. Perhaps if I had treated the anxiety right off the bat and nipped it in the bud I would not have experienced as severe a depression. Who knows.

Yes, the missing heart beats are very scary. It probably is because of the doxepin but I don't want to face it. I don't want to go off of this because I don't see very many other options for dealing with the extreme anxiety. You doc never gave you a reason for combining the Celexa with the Anafranil? He wants you on the Celexa along with the nort. too, right? I think you're right about treating the anxiety right away to prevent the depression. That increase in cortisol will eventually create depression. I'm convinced of that. Knowing that you may be able to prevent the worst of the depression is a great thing though.
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> -- I hope it works for him too. I hope it's a good sign that we haven't heard from him. My fingers are crossed too.

I don't know if you saw it yet but Linkadge did post something on the main board. So far he's doing well but he's only on a low dose and he did say that he's having some palpitations. He didn't seem too upset about them though.

> -- Maybe I was imagining it. I just found that after I started taking the chromium at night I wasn't waking up feeling as anxious, woozy, nauseas and hungry (like I hadn't eaten in a few days). If you have just started, you might not yet be noticing any benefit. But, I agree, after a while of supplementing, take a break to see if you notice a difference. There is no point in spending money on a supplement if it is not really doing much.

I still have a ton of chromium pills left. They came in a bottle with about 250 so I have a long way to go on them. I might as well finish the bottle at least and then see how it goes when I am no longer taking it.

> -- I hope he agrees. I think the nort is helping. I am thinking more positively and making plans and stuff. I think that is a good sign. So, my fingers are crossed that this will continue. My biggest worry about returning to work is my tendency to get wrapped up in my work and take on too much and work long hours as well as my inability to say "no". That is an area where I think I could benefit from CBT. I think I may still consider seeing a therapist. I don't want to go through what I have just gone through again. Granted, I was also suffering from iron deficiency, so that didn't help. But, I need to learn to set limits and impose boundaries.

That's so wonderful about your feelings about the nort. so far. Do you think it's working so quickly or are you just optimistic about it all because you're tolerating it so well? I think working with a therapist is a good move. It could help to keep from getting too caught up in your work. I bet this time that you will set more limits.

> -- I think I would be afraid too to add a beta blocker. But, don't some people use them for anxiety already (Proponodal ? spelling)? I am sure your pdoc wouldn't mind though if you just called to get his opinion or advice on medication (but get the script from the free clinic). He seems really nice.

He might but I don't want to take advantage. He's been so great so far. I don't know. We'll see what happens.

> -- I know. And, the reason why I didn't drink milk when I was younger was because I was somewhat lactose intolerant (not to be gross, but when I drank milk I would get all mucousy in the back of my throat. I was a horrid feeling). I think a lot of shy people are actually quite headstrong. A bit of a contridiction, but maybe the shyness makes some more independent and able to pursue their interests in spite of what others think. Who knows. I found from a young age, I did what I wanted when I wanted (within reason of course). I remember when I was 14 I wanted to get a part-time job. My parents both said no. Anyway, I went with a friend of mine to apply for jobs and when of the places we applied (McDonalds he he) hired us on the spot. I went home and told my parents I now had a job. There wasn't much they could do at that point. So, I kept my little job. Granted, I had to find my own way to work and home, but that didn't stop me.

Yes, you must have been headstrong. You could have just told that woman that you were lactose intolerant - or maybe you didn't know it yourself at the time. That's an amazing story about your first job. Isn't 14 too young legally in Canada to work? Did you lie and say that you were 16? My experience was the opposite. My mother had to drag me kicking and screaming to sign me up for a job.

> -- Who cares is right! I am no connoisseur either. I just enjoy a nice cup of coffee. But, it hasn't become my quest in life to find the ultimate coffee bean or brew :-) I used to like a nice espresso once in a while, but other than that, it's whatever is handy. I like the flavored coffees as well.

There are cups of coffee that are bad - too weak usually - but for the most part I'm easy to please in that department. Espresso is too intense for me but I like the way it smells.

> -- I think I will stay at 50mg for a week and see how I feel. Then, if I feel I need a little more of a boost, I will try 75mg (or I may ask the pdoc for another script for 10mg caps so I can try 60mg). That's too bad that you had just a bad reaction to it. I wonder if you had started at a really low dose and tried taking it during the day if that would have made a difference. I am thinking that nort may be one of those ADs that some may be able to get by with a low dose. I see the pdoc next week, so it will be interesting to see his reaction.

I did try a small amount of nort. and I also tried it in the morning. It just made my heart race whenever I took it unfortunately. I'd be very interested in hearing about your doctor's reaction too. Are you going to get any blood tests to make sure you are within the therapeutic window for nort.?

Talk to you later,
Kara


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