Posted by lil' jimi on April 18, 2003, at 9:40:06
In reply to Re: Re war et al--lil' james marshel l, posted by lostsailor on April 18, 2003, at 0:34:03
> Hmmm.
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> Wow, bud.
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> I don't know what to say. I love the music you seem to. does that speak to you at all? Does that mean nothing? was it a movement or a musical mayhem? Some of the best bands of the era choose to say nothing and others too much.
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> All are welcome to talk here. What I meant is I am to confused to really sort it out. be it jfk, rfk, "star wars" "'holy ‘" wars...I just have had loud voice in the past and offended others without intention. Like being beaten by a group of African Americans whole protesting the rk verdict. Is it him that may have said it bes: “why can’t we all just get along”
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> an older friend of mine did a lot of time "in country" in nam and for what??? to be pelted with things when he got home; to have people see him a fascist killer, a thug and murderer. he was young with a future. he was drafted. he now has ptsd. he has many medical probs associated with agent orange and came home with a poppy habit to boot. he kicked, but still can't forget --they were soldiers. They killed to stay alive. Killed and he and other can’t forget it—ever go to the wall in dc??. he saw innocent women, children and men killed. he saw soldiers kill their superiors.
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> Two of my uncles served in korea and came home to a hero's welcome and were not drafted--i don't believe.
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> I saw the post gulf war chapter 1 c soldiers come home to that same hero's welcome to suffer from gulf war syndrome and be told it does not exist.
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> i seem to see a lot and say little.
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> the soldiers are bold as love (wink) and the politicians--well no comment, except for 2 (lol):
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> bc got a bj and that was "terrible";
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> jc looked for alternative sources of power only to have the sad hostage crisis in '80 be "solved by reagan --who now does not remember--and that may be better for him to pass and not remember. would we all like not to remember evil doings and atrocities.
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> bill won one for the zipper, while ron the gipper...
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> i am lost.
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> i love others speaking hear about ANYTHING here. it just, for me, seems safer to stay lost yet informed. that’s why I read many of the posts.
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> i don't know if you follow me, but nor do i.
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> i mean i can't even see my non-bio son you and I talked about, which I am still gracious for, on his birthday unless I, what, marry his mom. and i HAD to promise not to leave him.
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> i don't really sail, but i have been too long at sea. i hear the shoreline beckon: there is a price for being free.
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> i hope this helps. honest, but i think you know that already
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> god bless, my friend,
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> ~tony
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> feel free to post for me
hey tony-o!my dad was sailor ... he almost always owned a boat when i was growing up ... a sail boat .... i never learned any sailing though .... avid sailor and air force colonel, too .... anyone want to mention the latest cut congress has inflicted on our veterans' benefits? ... the plight of those injured vets you know and their conrades ... i honor .... we honor.... we should honor them much better.... our country's treatment of our vets is a national disgrace ... check out http://www.vetsforjustice.com/
i recall and still feel for your non-bio-son issues .... separate and apart from these other things that's the tough one ....most on you .... hang tough.
and i do follow you ... you're easy .... even when it might not be the comfortable foot steps you're treading .... "... castles made of sand ... "
and, yea, verily, you are experienced .... at another level we are all sailors ... sailors on this sea of illusion ...
in the soviet police state, russians gave a traditional toast, with an extra meaning: hoisting their glasses they would say, "To those still at sea!" .... secretively referring to political prisoners in the soviet's gulags.
the Sea of Illusion is vast and subtle .... there are those who are lost, who know they are lost ..... and then there are those who are lost, who do Not know they are lost .... many are the later .... you are the former .... i could follow you... so i toast with you, lostsailor, "To Those Still at Sea!"
may your spirit be at peace,
~ jimi
"....'cuse me while i ..."
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