Posted by Sulpicia on April 15, 2001, at 22:34:50
In reply to a question for anyone to answer, posted by DarkWind on April 15, 2001, at 1:40:27
> first off, we all die someday anyway. when we die, the people around us are going to be upset - it won't matter how we die, or when, they will still be upset.
Hi --
Why is suicide wrong? No simple questions on this board.
Your premise above is incorrect IMHO.
Yes we all die, and while the death of a loved one is rarely
a cause for celebration, all deaths are not equally upsetting.
My father-in-law died at age 97. He had no quality of life left
and no possibility of regaining it. I was sad that he died -- I
missed him, but I was not upset at his death.
So too my parents, both of whom died of cancer. I was heart-broken
that they were stricken but I was not upset when they died. Cancer had
destroyed them and death was a relief.That said, when my friend's father killed himself, I was extremely upset.
Not only for the horrible issues it created for his immediate family, but
also because I had personally experienced severe depression but had recovered
with treatment. Of course this is subjective sophism -- "I got better so you can
too" is hardly a rational argument.I cannot *prove* it but I do *know* that you cannot decide about suicide if you're
depressed. Ironic for sure but your judgment is off.
When my mom's docs decided to offer her the option of discontinuing treatment,
they made a big point of explaining that they were ordering several consult visits
with a pdoc to make sure she wasn't suffering from depression -- they were completely
unwilling to offer to discontinue treatment unless she was able to make a rational
decision. So now I've drawn the seemingly ridiculous conclusion that you can only make
a rational decision about suicide when you're not depressed -- and presumably uninterested
in it.
Right or wrong is a judgment you have to make for yourself; if you're depressed you're
incapable of making the judgment.
Now that logic and sophistry have gotten us to aporeia, what have you tried for your
depression??
poster:Sulpicia
thread:5676
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