Posted by shar on October 29, 2000, at 12:57:27
In reply to Re: Is this a tribe?? and Shaman Bob?, posted by Dasypodidae on October 29, 2000, at 11:00:21
> I'm confused. Are you calling Dr Bob, Shaman Bob?
> Why?.................Because tribes have shamans, it was really sort of a joke. Dr. Bob is more of a ghost figure to me, usually. When I'm posting I don't think "What will Bob think about this" I am engrossed in the issue at hand.
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> I'm not talking about surveillance, I'm talking about Newspeak and the Thought Police. I'm talking about the Therapeutic Culture in general. And I do think there are parallels here! I was thinking of redefining all pain and social injustice in terms of mental illness within the individual. Of a kind of spiritual revisionism where despair and longing are only chemistry. Where the outrage at social injustice is labeled mental illness, etc. etc.
............On first reading, I see things differently than you. Whatever you replace the current "Newspeak" etc. with, will become the new "Newspeak" etc. Maybe you are thinking at a macro level and I'm thinking at a micro level.>
> I really really don't think Dr Bob is peeping at me through his little picture square!
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> What has AA got to do with anything? I don't even LIKE Bill W. It takes what it takes but that's just not what it takes for me ;o).............Pullmarine and you both made reference to 1984 (big brother), and I was commenting on how I regarded that. Big brother would relate to heavy monitoring of activity, what was said (content), how it can be used against one, etc. (at least as far as the book 1984 was concerned) and I was making the point that anybody can monitor what we say here, and we should not really have an expectation of confidentially, so it did not make sense to compare PB/PSB to Big Brother IMHO, or to compare Dr. Bob to Big Brother. I made the additional point that we shouldn't expect AA etc. to be confidential (the parallel would be talking about personal things).
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> Dr Bob is not MY shaman. How can he be yours if you never even think about him? That's something to think about.
.........I hope my shaman explanation above answers this question.>
> I didn't mean to offend you............Not offended.
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> Sorry if I upset you..........Not upset.
I didn't mean to. I haven't read 1984 in years. Maybe we remember it differently. Best wishes
..........Ditto to you on the best wishes.
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> Gee, see how jaded yet naive one can be. I never think of Dr. Bob when I'm posting. I never even thought he read all the posts. But he must read some because he does pop in now and then.
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> > It doesn't feel 1984 to me, because the only thing I have to do to post here is be civil, and I'm a big fan of civility. The disclaimer up top says that what you say could conceivably be used against you, and that is also true of all the A groups (AA, NA, etc.). The A groups are not protected communication, and posting on this board is public, and so not protected. In fact, anyone on this board has access to all the posts.
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> > Again, I may be naive, but why would Shaman Bob even care who is taking what? who has what condition, etc. And, worst case scenario, what would he hold against us that every reader here couldn't do the same?
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