Posted by Kath on October 30, 2009, at 9:13:45
In reply to Re: sorry, posted by Dr. Bob on October 30, 2009, at 9:00:16
> > I went to Dr Bob's twitter to see if yours had been posted and so far not but Dr Bob linked impermanace's entire suicide post to Twitter and we are all there. It makes me so mad at him.
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> > rsk
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> Regarding what's actually on Twitter, please see:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/psycho/20091022/msgs/923483.html
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> > Somehow the Twittering/Facebooking thing just feels more voyeuristic or something. Before at least we knew people who found us had actually found us because they were searching for people with common issues.
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> > TherapyGirl
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> Anxiety is a natural response to change, and I think the reaction here is in part a sign of cohesiveness and a desire to protect this community from disruption. Like you, however, Facebook and Twitter users are real people who can benefit from support and education. Sharing and tweeting might lead them to the many thoughtful and intelligent posts here, and then they might join Babble and contribute new perspectives and energy. I think good can come of this -- for current posters, for new posters, and for this community as a whole. I'd like to ask you to try to be open to that possibility.
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20090813/msgs/922824.html
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> > 10der, thanks for giving me heads up. I do not care if I am blocked, but I DO care that perhaps I came across too harshly against Bob, that I didn't have my facts straight.
> > I just think his agenda for this website is HIS agenda, and what the rest of us think, truly doesn't seem to matter to him.
> > So I am sorry I said things perhaps wrongly.
> > Still, after all this, I don't understand Bob, I just don't. Maybe I would rather I NOT understand him :( I'd rather not know...
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> > Muffled
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> Muffled, thanks. And thanks, 10der, for showing her how she might interpret things more charitably.
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> May I ask why you might not want to understand me?
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> I'm not sure our agendas are so different. I want this to be a supportive and educational site. And I welcome new perspectives and energy. Does anybody else?
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> Kath may disagree:
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> > I now believe that these buttons are an attempt to get new 'customers' & boost numbers here, which have dwindled abysmally, in my opinion.
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> Are all of you opposed to new "customers"? (Reasonable people can disagree.)~ ~ ~I'm not opposed to new people at all Dr. Bob. When the conversation first started about Opt In versus Opt Out & you were asking us if we wanted to be on 'tweet' or not, I had no idea that there would be buttons on each post. There was such a flood on 'no' answers that I now can only think that the buttons there are about getting new people. I think getting new people is great! I have nothing against it. This place has helped me so much that I'd love to see it help others.
> If our agendas aren't so different and we (more or less) agree on the goals of support, education, and new perspectives and energy, then the next question is how we get there.
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> I seem not to have gone about this very wisely. I didn't intend to cause anxiety, hurt, frustration, or anger, and I'm sorry I have.~ ~ thanks for acknowledging that. ~ ~
> Where I get stuck is:
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> It's always been possible to let others know about posts here. And I don't see how it can be prevented. With the link to the "do not share/tweet list", people can at least see what your wishes are. I guess in theory the buttons could automatically check the list themselves, but I have no control over how they work.~ ~ There's a big difference in my opinion in having to 'cut & paste' or whatever versus the ready/easy/inviting (whatever) button. I do NOT believe that people will go to the 'do not share' list to see who's in & who's our. Hey - THIS might be better......make a "Yes Tweet Me" list. This list, I suspect would be much shorter & easy to check out. I'm partly being facetious (sp?).
Re: our common goals of support etc, I would have hoped a feeling of safety & security would be a goal also & it's not being met with this new innovation to the posts.
I'm not in your position, but if I were, I'd right about now be seriously considering removing the buttons. Alot of people have weathered various 'storms' here - me being one of them. I don't think I can weather this one. Every time I see those buttons at the bottom of a post I freeze. I can't post openly like I used to.
:-(> Any ideas on how we can move forward (more or less) together?
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> Bob~ ~ ~ yes - please check the numbers of your existing 'community' & see how many want tweet & how many don't & then act accordingly regarding leaving or removing the buttons.
Kath
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