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sorry » 10derHeart

Posted by muffled on October 30, 2009, at 1:27:21

In reply to Re: There's a tweet » muffled, posted by 10derHeart on October 29, 2009, at 22:36:51

You know I can't say within the rules.

** ;-)

But I don't necessarily totally agree with everyone's specific charges (accusations?) against Dr. Bob. I think it's important when emotions run high to strive for accuracy and to call him out on what has actually happened, or at least happened without full knowledge, whether we hate it, like it, or don't care....

*WELL said 10der, I fully agree!

> > to daisys goodbye thread.
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> Perhaps, but not to her post. She is on the opt out list, so I cannot see him doing that purposely. The link is to the post by Peg, within the thread Daisy began. Peg did not opt out, or at least I don't see her name on the list. We have known since he started Tweeting in the summer it would be this way.. I can see how that is a technicality; I can kinda see this both ways, fair and unfair. If Dr. Bob wants to Tweet his own posts, or those of Babblers who said "that's fine - go ahead," must that freedom be removed because others' posts (opted-out) will be in the threads? Maybe. Maybe not. Someone's needs are going to be subjugated to someone else's, (well, that's life itself...) at some point ....which choice is absolutely the right thing or not, does not seem clear. Maybe I am now overthinking things now, but I find that a tough one to see as black and white.
> >and bout dinah 'idealizing'
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> Yes, but in Dr. Bob's defense, Dinah did NOT opt out at that time (August) and told him he could Tweet her posts.

* Thanks, thats a good explanation.
I must admit I am not fully up on wassup w/all this because I haven't been here much. I have just picked up bits and pieces. Its complex.

> > So, then I can be twitted too? even though I am on the no tweet list?
>
> By other people, sure. Nothing to prevent that, and with the buttons Dr. Bob has now made it technically easier for those using Facebook or Twitter. But not directly by Dr. Bob, as I think he will check the list. But, if I click over to Babble, and am interested, I might read all the *rest* of the posts on a thread he Tweeted. Which I imagine is what Dr. Bob sees as an upside - the reader would be intrigued and want to read more, get to know these people....I guess much like how I felt when I found this board by Googling.

*ahhhh the internet, what a friggin minefield hey? :(

> > I think babble has always been Bobs, and not about 'us'. Its Bobs toy. We were just useful entertainment.
>
> That I do not believe. I think he just can't get "it" re: certain emotional aspects abut Babblers, as you have wisely posted about said many, many times.

*This is my ongoing frustration w/Bob showing. I don't mind for myself so much, but I tend to get a little uppity when my friends are upset :(
yes, I agree with you and myself!(LOL!) that it does seem to be just who Bob is. But again, I find it incredibly frustrating that he doesn't seem to have respect for the feelings of many long term people here, who have been so helpful and good. Its like he's a bull in a china shop barging around unseeing. I have told him, others have told him, over and over.He seems unable to understand, Which is why I left.
I actually generally have really good 'spidey senses' about people that might harm. I never truly trusted Bob. I tried so hard (beleive me I TRIED)to work with him, I was obsessed with what WERE his motivations in running this site. I never could get a good answer. My spidey senses continued to tingle re: Bob. But many others here whom I had/HAVE! great respect for, seemed to trust him. So I gave him the huge benefit of the doubt despite what I sensed. I tried SO FRIGGIN HARD. I finally came to realize, that it just was history keeping repeating itself. Bobs behaviour wasn't changing. And while he would occasionally ask (very odd?!?) questions, like he seemed to be genuinely interested, it never really went anywhere. I tried to help him out. I really did. But to no avail.
So I left.
Sadly my spidey senses WERE right. They have saved my bacon many times.

> It's difficult. Hope you aren't blocked, muffled.
>
*And this is one of things I most liked about Babble, the posters here. This is the thing I miss most, the community.
Special, amazing, good hearted people who brought out the best in me.
10der, thanks for giving me heads up. I do not care if I am blocked, but I DO care that perhaps I came across too harshly against Bob, that I didn't have my facts straight.
I don't think he is evil.
I just think his agenda for this website is HIS agenda, and what the rest of us think, truly doesn't seem to matter to him.
That doesn't make for a safe community.
I'll give him one thing, computer programwise, this site runs VERY well, just his respect for people wise it doesn't...
So I am sorry I said things perhaps wrongly. But my beleifes about Bob are based on a fair amt of observation and interaction, both on and off the boards.
Still, after all this, I don't understand Bob, I just don't. Maybe I would rather I NOT understand him :( I'd rather not know...
Take care,
Blessings on all of you(Bob too).
Thanks,
Muffled



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