Posted by caraher on January 29, 2007, at 15:36:55
In reply to Re: 'Not always a cry for help' - » wishingstar, posted by one woman cine on January 29, 2007, at 15:26:04
> This research shows that there are ways to decrease suicide, although it feels counter-intuitive.
Actually, if you look at what they actually *do* and not the explanations he gives I think it makes sense that their rates go down:
1. As I mentioned, the students who don't comply leave, and if they die they aren't on-campus suicides. This may not be a significant number; I have no idea. But even if it isn't,...
2. They are being pro-active in seeking out students who need help. Counselors make multiple calls to get students to keep appointments. If you are afraid to ask for help, don't know how, or don't want to, it doesn't matter - they're coming for you once you're on their list.
I'm sure others, like me, have sat around wondering, "I feel like killing myself, but I haven't so far... maybe I can just live with this and don't need help." Or "I don't think anyone can help me with this. Under the "invite and wait" approach people with those sorts of thoughts are less likely to go get help than someone who has a counselor call five times saying, "Look, we know you've made a threat (or whatever) and you really do need to come in and get help." The decision is made for the indecisive.
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