Posted by toojane on January 20, 2007, at 10:02:59
In reply to Re: Suffering, posted by Daisym on January 19, 2007, at 22:55:15
Hi Daisy,
> I think suffering is inevitable and part of the human condition, but I'm not sure that all suffering is productive or a means to an end.
I find this topic very complex and confusing, that's why I wanted to post and hear other's thoughts about it. I don't think suffering is a means to end, that one can say I am suffering and this suffering will make me a better person somehow and that is it's purpose. But I have been considering that maybe there can be a meaning attached to it. I'm just not sure what that is.
> But I think my heart believes that sometimes there is suffering that is unwarranted and unfair, which is why I try to battle back against it in my own little corner of the world.I think that it is almost always unfair and that looking hard at suffering often involves moral judgements that others use as a form of distancing. If it is determined to be deserved in some way, then it can be ignored.
> I think spirituality and suffering and Karma are all items that should be open to discussion. Perhaps we are suppose to find meaning in our own suffering, and acceptance...but it is really hard.I agree.
I wanted to tell you that a post you wrote just a little while ago made me think very hard about the spiritual vs the psychological. It was where you were longing for your therapist and didn't have any sense of him inside you and he said he could understand your distress, that you thought he was hiding on purpose but he wasn't. That longing seemed almost spiritual to me. It made me wonder if it was your therapist you were searching for, if a person can meet that need or if that need can only be met by something more transcendent.
poster:toojane
thread:724132
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