Posted by fairywings on January 16, 2006, at 14:16:49
In reply to Re: How's this for a plan? fw, posted by andromeda on January 16, 2006, at 11:34:11
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> I don't understand, how do you know the meds aren't affecting your healing?For me, I'd say, whether I'm on meds or not, I'd judge my healing by my ability to function, to feel genuinely good about myself and my life, and to be able to deal with my past - knowing I can't change it - knowing it's part of my history. It won't ever go away no matter how well I become or how good I feel.
I'd guess some people will always need meds, like some people will always be on meds for high blood pressure, diabetes, or MS. Sometimes our chemistry is just off. I don't necessarily think that being on meds means you can't heal or learn to deal with the past. I think I will always be on meds, I just pray I always have insurance to help cover them. I feel like I'm able to work in therapy, sometimes better than others. And I'm working on my own, in between appts. to try to heal. For me, the meds don't affect that unless they're messed up, or I'm hormonal, or something. Maybe there's something else that will help you feel better, but not leave you flat or numb.
I have a great deal of troubling with "feeling" things. I didn't cry for years, I didn't feel much of anything positive, and I got to the point where I didn't find happiness or joy in anything, other than maybe my children and my husband. It is just now beginning to turn around a bit. Although, I have to say I think I have to go off my one med., so I don't know what kind of a crimp that will throw into the equation. It was making me feel better, but I'm having side effects.
>> I will run it by her but I am pretty sure she will want me to stay on meds. That is what they do.
> >I hope she's supportive of you. Mine is very supportive when something's not working, I need a change, or I want to stop taking something. He wants to do what's going to make me feel best because even if his job is to prescribe meds, I know it's more important to him that I feel good. That said, I don't think he'd encourage me to go off of a med. if he felt it was going to be deleterious. But I'm sure he'd be there to back me up if I insisted.
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> I don't know what you mean by primal.It mainly consisted of cognitive therapy.***Depth therapy wouldn't be cognitive because I think generally cognitive therapists deal with the here and now, and with faulty thought patterns. Depth therapy would be intensively working on things that have impacted you in a negative way. I'm sure an HMO wouldn't cover depth therapy, and I don't think it's done too much anyway. I think most therapies try to help you with the past, other than cognitive. I don't know, my knowledge isn't very extensive. I guess DBT doesn't either.
Seems that psychodynamic, experiential, and things like that tend to do more insight work. Or am I mistaken on that? I don't know. I'd guess every therapist is different too. I think finding one you like and can work with is the key.
>>I was put back on meds. If I brought up memories it just kind of was pushed down by therapists and back to cognitive.*** I went to a cognitive therapist not too long ago. I asked him at one of the first appts. what kind of therapy he did, and he said Cognitive. I told him I didn't want to do cognitive, I wanted to have insight into my problems, and he was fine with that, and awesome at combining the two. He helped me with the past in bits and pieces, but he also very much challenged my thought patterns. He was an incredibly intelligent and gifted therapist, but we had conflicts that didn't have anything to do with therapy, so I had to switch.
>>Memories were coming up till they put me back on meds. Since I am on a HMO I have to go to their therapists and they use cognitive therapy only.**Have you found a T you like and trust? Have you told them you'd like to have more insight and not just deal with faulty thought patterns? I know my daughter's first T wouldn't stray an inch, but the next T was willing to do whatever worked best for her, and let her take the lead.
>> I will check with my pdoc and see if she kind find me a therapist that will break the rules.
** Maybe if you find a T who's more concerned with your healing than their technique or method, you can get the best of both worlds. I'm glad you have a good repoire with your pdoc; I would guess she'd lead you in the right direction. Mine suggested my current T and I'm very happy with him.
>>Cognitive goes nowhere and I end up feeling like a failure.*** I didn't like it either. Purely CBT didn't last for me when I did it years ago It didn't get to what was really eating away at me, and I think it didn't really deal with the anxiety issues that started then and surfaced later.
> Thank you for info. I will check into other options.
>**Good luck, I hope your pdoc is helpful and will steer you in the right direction in finding a good T. And if you trust your pdoc and tell her how you feel about the meds, maybe talking to her and letting her direct you would be good. She might surprize you.
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