Posted by ace on December 2, 2005, at 8:21:22
In reply to Re: Regarding CBT » ace, posted by alexandra_k on December 1, 2005, at 16:27:49
> are you yelling at me?
> was it something i said?
> ;-)No!! ha ha!
> > Sure. And these are biochemical reactions in the brain....BUT AFTER A SHORT WHILE THE BIOCHEMISTRY AFFECTED BY SUCH 'ANGER'ETC RETURNS TO IT'S NORMAL 'POSITION' FOR WANT OF A BETTER WORD. SAME WITH SOMATIC CHANGES. THEY RETURN AND DO NOT LEAVE A 'SCAR' AS IN A PSYCHIATRIC ILLNESS.
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> so you think biochemistry is the *only* factor involved in mental illness?Yes. When we talk about psychosis, OCD, clinical depression, I believe so. Although the environment can very very slighty BRIEFLY affect these. But only briefly and slightly and rarely.
> *all* mental illness or just yours?Yes mine. All mental illness as presented in the CORE (not all) of the DSM. Mental illness, by definition, describes illness of the brain.
> you don't think the structure of neural connections might have something to do with it as well?What do you mean here? Neural connections cante created/lost through NLP or that clown Anthony Robbins. It is a pure lie. And a good money making scheme! Think of it this way....if we could change our brain biochemistry by will, we could completely interfere with hormones,negative feedback, and even "talk ourselves" into changing the colour of our hair, ha ha!
> you don't think your experience in the world changes your neural connections?
Sure they do. But not CONSCIOUSLY or BY AN ACT of WILL.
> you don't think talking / thinking things through counts as an experience in the worldNo.
and thus has the power to change your neural connections?No. Not in a conscious manner.
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> > THEY TEMPORARILY ALTER NEURAL PATHWAYS, AND THEN THE NT IS RETURNED TO ITS PRIOR ACTION POTENTIAL RATE ACROSS THE SYNAPSE.
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> here you are talking about the firing of neurons.Right.
> i was talking about the connections between neurons.
Yeah but the connections are their for the action potential to be set off. No action potentials, and your brain is dead. Neural connections are made by actional potentials, Thoughts are, experience is, EVERYTHING IS!
> they are altered by experience...
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> > PSYCHIATRIC ILLNESSESS LEAVE A SCAR WHERE NT IS PERMANENTLY ALTERED -- FOR THE WORSE AS EXPERIENCED BY THE SUBJECT.
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> so you are determined that you have a chronic illness that can only be masked by medication?Yes. Not just masked, but placed in full remmission. We cannot 'cure' mental illness until we can use smears, blood tests, X-rays, etc
Thus, finding the ACTUAL gensis of the problem, which I'm preety sure I know already.> well... if you keep telling yourself that...
> it just might become true for you...Listen, I have finished medicine and studied the brain extensively. I am soon to be a psychiatric
student. I' not boasting. I just think this CBT and other nonsense is a farce. And defies scientific truths.>
> good luck to yaare you being sarcastic?
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