Posted by 64Bowtie on January 31, 2004, at 11:56:54
In reply to Re: Re: Adapting to this media » 64Bowtie, posted by Dinah on January 31, 2004, at 9:18:38
[Dinah]
>>> I'm not sure that I would say that some aren't "ready" for your treatment plan. The fact is that *no* treatment plan is appropriate for everyone. A certain level of acceptance on your part that what worked for you might allow you to be more effective in giving help to those who *would* benefit from it. I realize that that would require radical acceptance on your part (in DBT language).
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>>>When you say "If I did it, anyone can do it" are you attempting to say "If I did it (the way I did it - using my program), anyone can do it (in the way I did - using my program)? Or are you attempting to say "If I found my way out of the mire (in the way that works best for me), anyone can do it (when they find the way that works best for them)? If you mean the latter, I think you're absolutely right. If you mean the former, have you considered that you have personality characteristics that not everyone shares, and therefore what works for you would work best for others sharing your personality characteristics?
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[Rod]
<<<I've found that responding to you can be a worthwhile challenge. I am not irritated by anything you say, ever. Sometimes your debate technique employs an "absolute" and sometimes you respond in "oblique" angles. None of that is bad or good. Actually, you will succeed more than you will fail with those strategies. They are not corrupt. I hear them employed freely from Congress on C-span, all the way down to Judge Judy. Again, I am not irritated by anything you say, ever. (pant, pant, pant. Gotta do more jogging. This thinking stuff leaves me winded!)
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<<<To my point: (Ahem)
I see my comment as a mixed message of hope. Since I assume we all have the tools needed to overcome these "fiendish thingys" in our characters and personalities, I readily encourage everyone to do something. And, here is my stuff and what I saw and learned. If they don't fit, I'm OK with that.
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<<<OBTW, my evaluation formula can eliminate clients that I see won't be helped. The client might also see a lack of matching. Even the Cosmos might conspire to eliminate my modality. I'm still OK with all of it. Arrogance and vanity were dealt with in 1991 by my own discoveries.
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<<<(pertaining to my "absolute" comment)
>>>...might not work for *everyone*
>>>...characteristics that not *everyone* shares
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<<<(you appear to be implying that everyone indeed means everyone; an "absolute") Like I said, I am not judging, just codifying for your future study. This debate strategy shakes down the opponent forcing them to make a stand included in their response. If you play checkers or chess or poker, its like putting the cheese out for the mouse (aligorically and metaphorically).
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<<<I'm not so desparately attached by my ego to anything I dream up, or I wouldn't be here risking that ego so freely. I hope you gain from what I share. I am not in a pursuit that ends neatly, but is more of an ever-changing beginning, a sort of re-re-beginning...lol...
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>>>As to the "oblique or vector" tactic, I'll have to remind myself later where I saw you do that successfully, so as to provide a clear example. Keep in your vision that I mean no harm nor judgement. I thought you might want to study these techniques for future strategic deployment.
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>>>Three cheers for the "self"!!!Rod
PS: When I became comfortable in my own skin, I stopped being repulsive and started being attractive. I’ve always been able to be comfortable, I just didn’t know how, or where to start.
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