Posted by bleauberry on March 29, 2010, at 19:40:23
In reply to Re: New Health Bill Passed Ammended Hour Later, posted by Justherself54 on March 29, 2010, at 12:35:49
> >>What does nationalized health care cost control look like in Canada, our neighbor? Long waiting lists. Months. Willingly pay cash out of pocket to visit USA instead. Hospital corridors lined with unattended patients laying in their own filth for days. Re-using disposable supplies. These are the kinds of cost controls that happen in nationalized health care.
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> Have you ever been in a Canadian hospital? I have and so have members of my family. Never, EVER, have I witnessed unattended patients laying in their own filth, nor have I ever witnessed any hospital staff re-using disposable supplies.
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> I feel it's fine to debate and discuss the pros and cons of any health care system, but to broadly claim that every Canadian hospital treats their patients as you have claimed is an outright lie.
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> I feel angry, disgusted and very disrespected.
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>I don't see anywhere that I said "every Canadian hospital"?
These stories are in the media. If it is a lie as you claim, then there are mass outlets lying. But then, that wouldn't be anything new would it.
To be fair, I'm sure some USA nursing homes are just as bad. But then, they are typically underfunded and understaffed as well, same as any national health management, except on a smaller scale.
I'm glad you didn't experience it.
I'm sorry you feel angry, disgusted and very disrespected. The post was not directed at you or anybody so please don't take it personally. The offense was based on media stories and it was aimed at socialized hospitals not you.
I prefer to debate an issue on its merits rather than deflect the topic on emotional responses. My post is about the health care bill, not about Canadian hospitals. I would welcome any and all comments on the issues I discussed.
Because you and your family did not personally see anything does not mean those things don't happen daily. Like I said, TVs and radios have to be telling lies otherwise. Canada is a huge territory. I'm sure there are good parts and bad parts, just like any large geographical area.
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