Posted by alexandra_k on June 6, 2005, at 23:59:12
In reply to Re: Decriminalisation would at least be step in right, posted by Nickengland on June 6, 2005, at 8:08:56
> You say how is heroin different from alcohol? The two are in a completey different class, with regards to the level of addiction and withdrawal symtoms.
Nicotene. Nicotene is more addictive than opiates with respect to the percentages of how many people successfully give up.
The PHYSICAL withdrawal symptoms from opiates are no worse than a severe case of the flu. The PSYCHOLOGICAL withdrawal is worse for nicotene than it is for opiates.Opiates were given to people fighting in vietnam.
Most successfully kicked the habit upon return to the US.
> People i've seen take heroin, start off by smkoking it and the "majority" have ended up either dead, in and out of prison or just people you would not want anything to do with at all.I guess that is your experience.
Mine is different.
I know a number of people who used to be hard core and are now occasional. And a number of people who are solely occasional.> The majority of people who I know who drink, none of them ended up dead or in and out of prison because of alcohol.
Yeah. But the laws are different there. I know people who have died of alchohol related (caused) illnesses. Same with tobacco related. With respect to prison - thats because the laws are different. I do know someone in jail presently for drunk driving..
> Its fair to say that yes, some professional people do take heroin, some are doctors etc.. Out of all the people who use the drug though in developed countries, the majority have completley ruined their lives (i'm talking about long-term users) and also the lives of the people most close to them. Just because it would be legal and you could buy it in a shop, wouldn't mean that all the damage from the drug would stop over night, I think the damage would only increase more for those users at most risk from the drug.I'm not sure about that.
I think the damage comes because of the criminal association.
And I'm not sure that the majority of users are physically / psychologically addicted.> Alcohol and drink driving offences continue to rise...if alchol was illeagal would they be still rising at the rate they are now?
I think so.
> Smoking related diseases continue to rise, if smoking was illeagal, would they continue to rise at the rate as though they were legal?
I think so.
> Also the price of heroin has dropped massively over here in the uk for as little as 5 or 10 pound a hit.???
Then why are people ruining their lives by porning possessions etc for money for the next hit?? Is it that the price is reduced to start with in the attempt to create more regular customers???
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