Posted by Lou Pilder on April 28, 2010, at 6:30:12
In reply to Re: no one claims to have seen God » rnny, posted by rayww on April 28, 2010, at 1:09:13
> > No one claims to have seen God yet many worship him. How could that be?
>
> I have not seen God, but He has testified to me that Joseph Smith did see Him. I know many like me who can say they "know" God exists, the same as Joseph Smith.
>
> I don't visit this site any more, but tonight I read all the posts in this thread.
>
> I still take Empower, and have for five years. I had a stroke that affected my spiritual side much the same as those of you who have a similar disconnect using drugs. Empower will not give you a buzz or a sudden burst of energy, but you immediately just feel like yourself, and with those like me, I feel a gradual healing of my brain. When I had my stroke I couldn't type, or think out a clear sentence, but that is coming better every year.
>
> Although I still have a spiritual disconnect, and find it difficult to tune in and pray, I still know that Joseph Smith saw god and I love my church. I attend every Sunday and feel grateful for it all week in between. It is not just a Sunday thing for me. My family and most of my grandkids attend with me, and It is a beautiful experience. I would be surprised if anyone would feel unwelcome there, although I realize it goes both ways.
>
> We have been telling the world since 1820 that Joseph Smith saw God. Hello....He really did. Religion is all about relationships, and relationships (in my opinion, and that I have and believe in) are tied to ordinances and covenants, and priesthood only found in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
>
> We believe in the whole Bible, including the revelation of John. One comment about "fire and brimstone": Since most of the Book of Revelation is written in symbolism, what makes you think fire and brimstone isn't symbolic too? Of course, on second thought, fire and brimstone is obviously a significant part of our universe. There seems to be plenty of it out there.
>
> No one has all the answers, but I am very satisfied with the ones we have.
>
> As far as the discussion on drugs and sorceries go, that will all work out in the end, but in my opinion, it would work out smoother with religion. Pure religion is faith, hope and charity.rayww,
You wrote,[...symbolism..fire and brimstone...As far as the discussion on drugs and sorceris go, that will work out in the end..]
I am unsure as to what you are wanting to mean here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
A. Is the end;
1. the end of the world
2. the end of the discussion here in this thread
3. the end of an age
4. something else?
B. In sybolism;
1. Are you wanting to mean that fire and brimstone are symbols? If so, what could those symbols represent, if you know?
C. other questions if the above are answerd
Lou
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:940243
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20100403/msgs/945398.html