Posted by Lou PIlder on May 27, 2007, at 12:50:56
In reply to Lou's requestto I WG for clarification-wilofmyfath » I Worry Girl, posted by Lou PIlder on May 27, 2007, at 12:41:42
> > I will e-mail you soon. BTW I was just sharing something that helped to inspire my faith. In no way do I believe that what works for me has to work for everyone else. But because it gives me inspiration I wanted to share.
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> > > > I was inspired by this discussion I once heard:
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> > > > If all we had to do was "believe" in God, then even the devil would be in heaven for the devil believes.
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> > > > By grace, we have received the gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ. All we have to do is accept that gift. In accepting it, we are telling God that we believe in Him. We show our thanks for this gift by the good deeds that we do. If we simply said, "Oh, OK, cool, Jesus died for me, now I can go do whatever I want, and still go to heaven." Doesn't sound so grateful, does it? If you receive such a priceless gift as this from someone who so obviously loves us, you would want to please them, right? By doing good works, you are saying, "Thank you", and also showing how much that gift means to you. In no way must you be perfect. God knows that here on this earth, until we are in heaven, we can't be. He knows what we are capable of, in our human capacity, and we have a responsibility to try to live up to our capabilities. When we see our shortcomings, we continue to ask for forgiveness and we are made perfect each time through His grace.
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> > > > GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH GOD'S GRACE = FAITH + PROOF OF OUR FAITH AND GRATEFULNESS BY GOOD WORKS
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> > > Friends,
> > > It is written here,[...By grace, we have received the gift of eternal life through...].
> > > I am requesting to those that are considering to be discussants in this thread to consider the following:
> > > A. Who could the {we} be in the statement?
> > > B. What have been the historical uses of the statement above?
> > > C. Is the statement a Christian bible verse?
> > > D. What could {through} mean in the statement?
> > > I am unsure as to what links I can post here and what other posts that I can site in this thread due to the new rules here when I rejoined the forum.
> > > If you would like to know what links and posts that I would like to post here, you could email me if you like.
> > > Lou
> > > lpilder_1188@fuse.net
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> > A. All who have been created by God
> > B. In the Bible before and after Jesus was born. Also after Jesus descended and Christianity was established.
> > C. The statement above was construed from reading many verses in the Bible. Some of these verses are below
> > D. Through meaning "Because of..."
> > John 3:16-17 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.”
> > 5:24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.”
> > 6:47 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.”
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> > We are saved through the blood of Jesus Christ. However, even before He was born human beings had the chance for salvation through God, the father of it all.
> > OLD TESTAMENT
> > DEUTERONOMY 30:19,20 “Today, I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, so that you and your descendants might live! You can make this choice by loving the Lord your God, obeying Him, and committing yourself firmly to Him. This is the key to your life. And if you love and obey the Lord, you will live long in the land the Lord swore to give your ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”
> > PSALM 62:1-2 Truly my soul silently waits for God; from Him comes my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; He is my defense; I shall not be greatly moved.
> > ISAIAH
> > 1:18 “Come now, let’s settle this,” says the Lord. “Though your sins are like scarlet, I will make them as white as snow. Though they are red like crimson, I will make them as white as wool.”
> > 44:22 “I have blotted out, like a thick cloud, your transgressions, and like a cloud, your sins. Return to Me, for I have redeemed you.
> > Jesus' dying for us has simply made our salvation even easier. Now we no longer have to rely on the Laws, sacraments, etc. for salvation like they did in the Old Testament.
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> > New Testament
> > MATTHEW
> > 7:21 “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of My Father in heaven will enter.”
> > ACTS 10:34 Then Peter replied, “I see very clearly that God shows no favoritism. In every nation He accepts those who fear Him and do what is right. This is the message of Good News for the people of Israel – that there is peace with God through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.”
> > Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
> > James 2:14-22 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe – and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?
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> I WG,
> You wrote,[...(redacted by respondent)..the >will< of {My Father}..(redacted by respondent)...]
> Could you clarify what that will is? If you could, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
> LouI WG,
In your writing here the bible quotes, are the quotes from a particular version of the bible? If so, which version?
Lou
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