Posted by Buckeye Fan on February 20, 2005, at 6:26:19
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Buckeye fan-~svd?, posted by rayww on February 20, 2005, at 1:02:19
> How did this end up in the demonic oppression thread? As long as we're here, I have a question. If someone exercises a spiritual gift and it is fake, is that like demonic oppression? Like the gift of tongues or healing, or loud outbursts, rolling on the floor, etc? Is there a true and a fake spiritual manifestation? There are so many, from excorcism to prophesying, in your opinion how does one know which to trust?
> The list is so long of the real and fake spiritual gifts. Fake love, fake caring, fake faith, fake belief. Basically everything that is true also has a fake trying to mimic it. It's like that road beside the right one that goes on for so long, but then makes an abrupt turn. It could have gone on for centuries even. My thoughts are just exploring new territory, so I hope you can respond with an open mind, as I am. The real big one would be fake saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. How do we know which saving knowledge to trust? I suppose only the future will tell.
*************************************************Well we got on this topic because of a question posed by Spriggy - http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20050111/msgs/459211.html
You are correct in your statement that for most everything that is genuine...there is a counterfiet. That is because the devil is a copy-cat...not a Creator. He loves to mimic and provide mankind with a counterfiet for all that is good and holy, which has been given by God.
His insatiable desire to "be like God" is well documented in the Scriptures;Isaiah 14:12
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning ! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
14:13
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14:14
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.14:15
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.Note how many times the word "I" is used.
This is significant, because it demonstrates the Lucifer's main problem.....pride. It was not enough for him to be created a Prize Cherum in Gods service....he desired more power,more prestige...and finally, Gods Position itself.Eze 28:15
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.You made a statement rayww...you said "Mine is certainly a different Christianity than yours. Are we both on the same road, or side by side?"
I humbly submit that according to the Holy Scriptures there is only ONE christianity. The Bible says :
4:3
Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4:4
There is ONE body, and ONE Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
4:5
One Lord, One faith, One baptism,
4:6
One God and Father of All, who is above all, and through All, and in you All.We are either together as members of the Body of Christ...or we are outside the family of faith.
Regardless of what denomination ( if any),regardless of what race, color or creed....God has One Family, One Faith and One Savior.Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.Lastly, concerning how we can tell the true from the fake? Discernment.
Joh 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be ONE fold, and ONE shepherd.Joh 10:27
My sheep hear MY voice, and I know them, and they follow me:Joh 10:5
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.Hope this helps. I So love Gods Word..it has the answers IF we are willing to look and believe!
In Him
BF
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