Posted by habbyshabit on July 4, 2003, at 8:55:37
In reply to Re: channeling - to Rayww, posted by Mercury on July 3, 2003, at 12:34:20
Mercury: I started reading Jane Roberts and Seth at the tender age of 17. Someone lent me the book a Seth book shortly after I arrived at Penn State for my freshman year. It was that weird covered paper back with a picture of Jane channeling Seth (and of course no where in any of the books she or she and Seth wrote did the use the word Channeling. That word was coined by JZ Knight and her channeled entity, Ramtha, in the early eighties. Jane was doing most of her work with Seth in the Sixties and Seventies. She referred to herself as a Medium. ). That early edition had a black background, Jane was in black and white I think, and then there was a spiraling thin red line overtop of the photograph. I think the book was called “”The Seth Material””, but then maybe it was called “” Developing Your ESP Powers”” and then changed to the first title at a later date. At any rate, I’m not sure. After reading that book, I moved on to “”The Nature of Personal Reality; A Seth Book”” and I was hooked. I read all she had published to date and then bought the hard covers as they came out. I spent more time in excited anticipation over those books then any of these folks waiting for the next Harry Potter novel!
All this to say, I know exactly what you mean by running into an “Aspect” of yourself. It’s pretty cool that you are that familiar with Seth’s terminology and concepts. “Personal Reality’ became somewhat of a bible to me for many years. When I finished the book where Jane’s Husband, Rob, describes her departure from this green earth, I cry into my pillow for a good long while. I grieved her passing like a family member. It took me a long time to even allow that any channel could be as good as her, or as clear. Especially myself!!!!!!!!
I am also a very big fan of the CWG series of books. While I think some of the writing gets clouded at times with Neale’s ego, most of it is very clear, fresh and incredibly enlightening. He’s come out with another conversation book called “”Revelations, a Conversation with God””. Neale also never calls himself a channel. He prefers ‘messenger’. He’s only an automatic writer really, not channeling as we’ve come to understand the term. He never sits in front of crowd and closes his eyes and goes through the transformation it takes to allow another being, not of this world, to use the body to speak. I think marketing wise, he made a very wise decision (if indeed it was thought out) to not call himself a Medium or Channel. It allows his books to be classified under Religion, New Age, or Spirituality. It’s not put on the shelves labeled “Channeled Books” or “Occult”. He’s done incredibly well.
But then so has Lee Carrol and Kryon. http://kryon.com Lee travels the world and sells a bazillion books and makes no bones about what he does. He spends a bit of energy debunking the myths and negative hype surrounding channeling.
Yes there are frauds. Sometimes they are not even aware that they are frauds! Their ego’s become so inflated that they are fooling themselves most of all. Some do it intentionally either for attention or money or whatever. Some are channeling honestly but are not ‘clear’ channels in that their personalities get mixed with the message and the entity that actually is available can only get a fraction of the wisdom that is inherently there. All these things worried me the first few years that I was doing it. I would come out of the space I go to and ask the group or individual, “Did that feel real”. My inner relationship with Arlon is without a doubt real. I trust them more then any human I have known. But going through the transformation of becoming Arlon and then answering questions from the gathering of people for an hour and a half as Arlon is a whole other ball of wax.
I don’t think what you and Ray describe as getting into a ‘zone’ and on ’automatic pilot’ and being very productive and creative is channeling per se. It’s inspiration perhaps, coming from your muse or higher self or even other worldly beings. However, it’s still ’you’, with a lot of help! That’s just my opinion. You’d easily find others who would call it channeling - channeling energy, channeling the universal source of good work or what ever - but I’m a purist, as you can imagine. Jane, Neale, Lee Carrol, JZ Knight, among others - are doing something quite different.
Can I answer questions posed to Arlon here? I could. I don’t know if DR BOB would go for that. I started a web page with the idea that it could be an interface for Arlon to visit with people via the world wide web. When I do live channeling, Arlon always conducts it in a Q&A format. I asked a number of friends of Arlon’s, who lived at a distance, if they would send a few questions, or start an email conversation with Arlon to see if I could do it and if it would work ok - it did. So web site was launched. I never did any advertising as I finished the site shortly before I decided to quit for awhile. I never got one response !! You can see the front page, which is all there is at this time, at http://members.tripod.com/elenamullein . The email link is no longer operative.
Elena Mullein is the name I use when doing Arlon. It is not me real name. I felt the need to keep my metaphysical doings separate from my private and family life. I don’t tell every one I meet that I’m a medium! My husband worked as a Union heavy equipment operator. The blue collar world is pretty conservative. Plus, I just prefer people know me as a homemaker and wife. If I meet a kindred spirit, I share that side of myself. Here in SE Idaho, I have yet to meet any!
That is why I enjoying this conversation with you folks so much.Here’s Arlon’s previous closure to emails:
“May you find peace on your jouney. May your path be full of wonder.”
In All Love,
Habby
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