Posted by psychobot5000 on June 22, 2012, at 16:51:10
In reply to Re: Flowering Quince: DARI (update), posted by b2chica on June 22, 2012, at 13:23:18
> Hi
> are you still taking the flowering quince?
> how is it going?
>Hi B2c,
I've been intending to update for a bit, and your questions all seem relevant, so I'll try to answer them.
> i'm on:
>
> would this be something i could try? or do you think the heart arrythmias could be a problem with what i'm already on?
>I guess my answer would be that I think the arrhythmias -could- be a problem, so some degree of caution in dosing is probably a good idea (i.e. take a little and check your heart-rate and, possibly, blood-pressure). That said, most or all of my tachycardia has now disappeared, and I am no longer even completely certain that it was caused by the flowering quince. Beyond that, I'm fairly sensitive to heart-rate increase from catecholaminergic medications. It's my guess this wouldn't be a problem for most people. My guess: just keep an eye on it at first, and consult your doctor before taking it if you have any heart problems. I think the flowering quince / sweet nakai / mu gua might be milder on your heart than the adderall you already take.
> kinda wondering also how long it lasts if you take the quince in the am? all day or only for a few hours? is it cumulative, so if you stop will you still feel effects for a few days or does it stop immediately?
>I am uncertain of the half-life. I find there is a mood and concentration boost that lasts only a few hours, but other benefits seem to last for much longer (i.e. about a day). It's also true that, the first time I took it (it was a fairly large dose, in retrospect), my heart-rate seemed to stay elevated for about two to four days (the return to normal was gradual). In short, it is not clear what its half-life is or how long it actually lasts, but I suspect a half-life of somewhat more than a day, with substantial tolerance to parts of its effects occurring within a few hours after each dose (dopaminergic down-regulation?). It would be helpful on this score (length of effect) if others could take it and share their experiences as well.
I know of one other, a friend (not mentally ill), who took the stuff. She took only one dose, but it seemed to give her energy and a certain positive buzz for a few hours (this is what I observed, and she later casually told me that it seemed to have 'worked'), without disrupting her sleep or anything. It would have been interesting to know whether a second, third or twentieth doses would do the same. In my case, I seem to develop some tolerance to its positive effects unless I give it a few days off.
Overall, I consider the herb moderately useful, possibly better as an occasional use thing. Beware taking too much if you have anxiety issues, as I fear it may have temporarily exacerbated mine. It does not seem to be particularly problematic for sleep, unless you take doses larger than I am able to tolerate.
Pb5000
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